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Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

12 Nov 2008 at 07:17 - 41
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Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman View Post
ffs, whats the point of playin this game if everything you need is on 1 page of info..
There's running a good build. Then there's running a good build with skill. Fail statement...
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I wouldnt be surprised if u all choose [mending] over something new for a change. lol, QQ moar

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

12 Nov 2008 at 21:59 - 42
Creativity for the sake of creativity is dumb. A lot of the time creativity is for the sake of creativity.

Try and make it compare to the efficiency first.

Stealth Bomberman

Stealth Bomberman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

12 Nov 2008 at 23:24 - 43
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There's running a good build. Then there's running a good build with skill. Fail statement... i have to agree with u on this. i believe in the same thing.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

13 Nov 2008 at 09:40 - 44
creativity isnt autofail; it can sometimes produce good results.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

13 Nov 2008 at 16:26 - 45
creativity for the sake of it is fail

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

13 Nov 2008 at 16:49 - 46
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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
creativity isnt autofail; it can sometimes produce good results. I didn't say it was autofail. I said creativity for the sake of it is fail.

If you want good results and creativity, compare it and test it with current builds. Otherwise, why bother if you're not going to match up efficiency? For fun, maybe, but some find running the most efficient builds fun.

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

N/

13 Nov 2008 at 19:47 - 47
oook well...umm being that this is PvE we're talking about here I'll put up this one, not exactly "deadly arts based" but it uses a DA elite for some fun.

[golden fox strike][wild strike][repeating strike][twisting fangs][way of the empty palm][critical agility][optional][optional]
It's no MS/DB but it's decent and fun for some giggles. I've nicknamed it the "Break-Dance Fighter" due to repeating's animation.

As it is it dosen't use many DA skills but there's lots of room to modify it, the only thing to it is setting up to use repeating constantly while WoteP is up.

Stealth Bomberman

Stealth Bomberman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

14 Nov 2008 at 03:27 - 48
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Originally Posted by Shadowmere View Post
oook well...umm being that this is PvE we're talking about here I'll put up this one, not exactly "deadly arts based" but it uses a DA elite for some fun.

[golden fox strike][wild strike][repeating strike][twisting fangs][way of the empty palm][critical agility][optional][optional]
It's no MS/DB but it's decent and fun for some giggles. I've nicknamed it the "Break-Dance Fighter" due to repeating's animation.

As it is it dosen't use many DA skills but there's lots of room to modify it, the only thing to it is setting up to use repeating constantly while WoteP is up. [repeating strike] in pve??? if ur blinded or blocked ur no use and might as well back up and /sit till the fight is over. its a horrible skill anyways. kills what sins are good at..spiking/shutdown.

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

N/

14 Nov 2008 at 09:26 - 49
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[repeating strike] in pve??? if ur blinded or blocked ur no use and might as well back up and /sit till the fight is over. its a horrible skill anyways. kills what sins are good at..spiking/shutdown. Thank you for the constructive cirtique, I always appreciate thoughtful comments like this...

Maybe I didn't stress the fact that I never claimed it to be and end all awsome shutdown/spike build, I even said it wouldn't stand up to MS/DB. It's a build for fun. Read fun not designed to be super effective but designed to use something non-standard for giggles.

And honestly if you look at it from a purely damage standpoint it's not too bad at all, the damage dealt is comprable to an average warrrior attack chain (DSlash notwithstanding). The reason it's not that great is because assassins simply have better options.

And to comment on your "gripes" with the build the things you listed pretty much shut down most physical damage dealers not just specific to this build. Also blind really isn't very common in pve and most of the blocking comes from ranger stances and last time I checked Wild Strike removes stances. But if you do keep getting hit with that pesky blind, I found this neat little skill when I was over in Kamadan; [assassin's remedy].

Unreal Havoc

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2007

14 Nov 2008 at 22:01 - 50
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Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman View Post
[repeating strike] in pve??? if ur blinded or blocked ur no use and might as well back up and /sit till the fight is over. its a horrible skill anyways. kills what sins are good at..spiking/shutdown. While it's not the greatest bar in the world the issues you mention have no relevance in PvE really in most cases. Most problems can easily be avoided simply by not being a bad player.

If you're half decent you won't attempt to attack with Repeating Strike while blinded or while a blocking stance is up so it will be instantly recharged so that you can get straight back into your combo after using Golden Fox Strike -> Wild Strike. The best thing is he hasn't even touched a secondary proffession yet so he can take epic goodness like Mending Touch, or Plague Touch, for condition removal etc.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

14 Nov 2008 at 23:04 - 51
[repeating strike] has the coolest dagger animation ever