Imbaturret!

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

08 Nov 2008 at 14:48 - 1

An imbagon build that deals damages spamming +damage attacks non-stop and is an imbagon at the same time!

Atts & Skills:

[build prof=p/w box spear=12+1+1 lead=11+1 command=6+1][blazing spear][holy spear][spear of redemption][soldier's fury][ebon battle standard of honor][theres nothing to fear][save yourselves!][theyre on fire!][/build]
Usage:
Cast your shouts, wards and soldiers fury start attacking, your attack will be almost always charged with adrenalline so just spam them to deal big dps, apply dw with gtfe + va.

Variants:

-Replace [holy spear] with [merciless spear] for some deep wound.
-Replace [ebon battle standard of honor] with [asuran scan] if you dont care about your party.
-Replace [ebon battle standard of honor] with [spear of fury] if you want to drown yourself in arenalline some more.

Pros:
-Big damages.

Cons:
-No rez, might not charge sy as fast, less free slots.

/discuss.

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

08 Nov 2008 at 14:56 - 2

You have one shout that will wear off after 1 attack, one not affecting you and one that will work half of the time.

So half of the time, your Elite is useless.

[/discussion]

Improvavel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

08 Nov 2008 at 15:08 - 3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
An imbagon build that deals damages and is an imbagon at the same time!

/discuss. Is there an imbagon that doesn't?

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

08 Nov 2008 at 15:14 - 4

Abedeus beat me to it. Your only chance of making this work - which is by far subpar to Racthoh/Richardt/Snow/everybodyelse's Imbagons - is to have at least another paragon or two just jamming chants and shouts. Otherwise you have no IAS and no adrenaline gain for spamming SY, which is pretty much the entire point of an Imbagon.

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

08 Nov 2008 at 16:14 - 5

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally
interested in fixing your grammar? His grammar is fine. It's the spelling that's off. Lern2englishplz.

Tbh i'd prefer FA over SF.

Nii

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

In my emo corner

Mo/

08 Nov 2008 at 16:14 - 6

Abedeus has pretty much slaughtered your discussion, and I agree with him...

Flightmare

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

NL

Infinite Omega Negatives

N/

08 Nov 2008 at 17:05 - 7

I think it's just rushed, since s and d are next to eachother on the keyboard.
Yeah, really sloppy, rereading your post before you actually hit the button isn't much work.

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

A/W

08 Nov 2008 at 17:31 - 8

[build prof=P/W spe=11+1+1 comma=8+1 lea=11+1][Spear of Lightning]["Go for the Eyes!"][Anthem of Flame]["Save Yourselves!" (Luxon)]["There's Nothing to Fear!"][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Focused Anger][Aggressive Refrain][/build]

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

08 Nov 2008 at 17:58 - 9

Got a better build that can actually make use of Soldier's Fury.

Leadership=11+1+1
Spear Mastery=11+1
Command=8+1

[Blazing Spear][Spear of Redemption][spear of fury][soldier's Fury]["There's Nothing To Fear!"]["Save Yourselves!"]["They're on Fire!"][Anthem of Flame]

Maintain They're on fire and Anthem of Flame as much as possible. Keep you're enemies burning, almost no need for SY even.

Command points are there for the shield.

For the record, I use this build on my paragon - replacing SY for Signet of Return - and on my heroes, replacing the three PvE skills for Blazing Fanale, Signet of Return, and Go For The Eyes! (taking one point from Spear Mastery and putting it into Command)

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

08 Nov 2008 at 18:18 - 10

Zoiks. What Abedeus said.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

08 Nov 2008 at 20:48 - 11

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
You have one shout that will wear off after 1 attack, one not affecting you and one that will work half of the time.

So half of the time, your Elite is useless.

Thanks for pointing that out, was rushing a bit writing this so soz, fix'd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berek
His grammar is fine. It's the spelling that's off. Lern2englishplz. What he said, mah spellingz are leet + I was rushing and didnt bother re-reading it. Thought I would explain it to spelling police here, anyway, fix'd.

So generally I rushed it and now its should be OK.

/discuss.

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

08 Nov 2008 at 21:55 - 12

I still don't like it. You've got three adrenaline attacks - none energy based - taking away from the adrenaline you could be using for Save Yourselves. Personally I'd say you need to choose one or the other, either all energy attacks and SY or adrenaline attacks without SY.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

08 Nov 2008 at 22:34 - 13

Those attacks shouldnt interfere with sy! that much tbh, you would still be able to mantain it tbh.

AtomicMew

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/A

08 Nov 2008 at 23:44 - 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
Those attacks shouldnt interfere with sy! that much tbh, you would still be able to mantain it tbh. Actually, you wouldn't be able to maintain it. You need 6 attacks to charge SY! which is 6 seconds. SY! lasts 6 seconds.

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

08 Nov 2008 at 23:51 - 15

Assuming max kurz/luxon SY lasts for 6 seconds. Under a 33% IAS you hit 6 times in 6 seconds. This isnt enough to charge SY even given +33%. Its only 7.98 adrenaline (because of 33% not being very effective). This means you have atleast a 1 second downtime every 6. This is further increased by 1 second every time you use an adrenaline skill. Im sorry. But its not able to maintain SY unless you bring FGJ, or off character adrenaline support.

Osi Ri S

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

N/

10 Nov 2008 at 14:59 - 16

Do you really need SY, TntF AND They're on Fire? Seems like useless overkill

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

10 Nov 2008 at 15:32 - 17

"They're On Fire!" is to make sure that you always have a shout active for Soldier's Fury. Agreed though that it's probably a little on the excessive side. Pitching TNTF though just seems like blasphemy.

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

18 Dec 2008 at 07:25 - 18

[Imbagon V 2;OQGjUumKqSub9EhfPYBZAhxgvlA]

If you insist.

they both amount to the same, only this one is slightly harder to use.

avilia

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

18 Dec 2008 at 12:14 - 19

I like that you're trying to come up with variants to the standard imbagons, but i think you're looking at the wrong skill to change. [Focused Anger] cannot be replaced without severely affecting your ability to perform as an imbagon.

For increased damage at the cost of defense, i suggest [Swift Javelin][Vicious Attack][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor]["Save Yourselves!"]["I Am The Strongest!"]["For Great Justice!"][Focused Anger][Aggressive Refrain].
Inferior to the standard imbagon build imo (TNTF instead of IATS).

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

18 Dec 2008 at 15:34 - 20

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
[Imbagon V 2;OQGjUumKqSub9EhfPYBZAhxgvlA] Please explain this one to me. Battle Rage ends on non adrenal skills, and your only other adrenal besides Battle Rage is SY, so you just auto-attack to fill it?

I understand you should probably always have the 4 adrenaline to get back into Battle Rage, but isn't that kinda counter-productive?

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

18 Dec 2008 at 17:20 - 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by avilia
I like that you're trying to come up with variants to the standard imbagons, but i think you're looking at the wrong skill to change. [Focused Anger] cannot be replaced without severely affecting your ability to perform as an imbagon.

Especially at higher K/L ranks, there's a lot of room to play while still being able to ensure constant SY! upkeep.

Quote: Originally Posted by Luminarus
But its not able to maintain SY unless you bring FGJ, or off character adrenaline support. Who doesn't bring Hero adrenaline support?

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

19 Dec 2008 at 00:16 - 22

Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan
Please explain this one to me. Battle Rage ends on non adrenal skills, and your only other adrenal besides Battle Rage is SY, so you just auto-attack to fill it?

I understand you should probably always have the 4 adrenaline to get back into Battle Rage, but isn't that kinda counter-productive? unless you think clicking an extra button is counter-productive, just don't use an energy skill unless you have Battle Rage fully charged, which BTW will recharge in an extremely difficult-to-manage 1 hit with Racoth's heroes :P

In all, it amounts to the same, plus you have an extra increased movement speed, and do a lot more single target damage, at the cost of having to think more.

Trust me, I've thought on the subject of alternative imbagons, and it's the only other somewhat-viable way of doing it, without killing the builds main purpose.

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

19 Dec 2008 at 02:21 - 23

Quote:
Originally Posted by ac1inferno
[build prof=P/W spe=11+1+1 comma=8+1 lea=11+1][Spear of Lightning]["Go for the Eyes!"][Anthem of Flame]["Save Yourselves!" (Luxon)]["There's Nothing to Fear!"][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Focused Anger][Aggressive Refrain][/build] /12characters