Myth or reality (new farm)

ah so this is looking like a myth then...but if we take away paragon secondary and have it as x there must be a build capable of soloing like i was told this could..i was given the figures of first level of tombs in less than 4 minutes solo wich is kinda bad seeing as you can do it with a sin in 4 minutes in hm :X

wich is kinda bad seeing as you can do it with a sin in 4 minutes in hm :X the ritualist also was in hm so its not that bad im just trying to think out of the box and create a new build for when the nerf hammer hit sf again

the ritualist also was in hm so its not that bad im just trying to think out of the box and create a new build for when the nerf hammer hit sf again It's unlikely that Sf will be nerfed again, anyway if your rt friend farmed tombs start by counting out all enchantments (dream riders remove them), also count you have to survive massive energy denial. You can't use armor buffs, energy surge (the "Scythe" elite) deals armor ignoring dmg. So lining out armor buffs/enchantments you're only left with 3 skills that a single char could use in order to protect himself and not get e-stripped/killed by e-surge. These are defiant was xinrae/xinrae weapon/shadow form, I'm pretty sure there are a few more skills, named these just because they are the elite ones viable on a ritu.

Try There is nothing to fear/vocal was sogolon/+ enduring harmony and some eotn pve skills.

complete bull...

here is why it is impossible to do hm in 4 min with a rit.

mass physical damage from riders and grasps...and we are talking massive, plus the grasps have eviscerate. Perma dark escape and armor buffs on top might have a chance at this..maybe. VwK simply isnt nearly enough to negate this

Lots of enchant removal. Shatter from the riders, rend from the chained souls. The souls can be avoided, the shatter from a rider in HM is well over 100 dmg.

E-denial, fearme from grasps, energy drain from the riders...and fear me will be spammed aplenty in hm.

And to top it off, loads of interrupts. Dchop from the grasps, and 2 interrupts a rider. No chance at perma vwk with physical resistance, you will never get a second vwk off. Lacking vwk, there is no viable damage source to be able to clear the room in 4 minutes.

With modifications, a vwk build would likely be able to take on any 2 of these problems, maybe even 3, but there is no way you can deal with all of them.

is rather similar to using perma vwk to farm caromi tengu, except minus the edenial. it is incredibly easy to die doing that farm, and the only reason you live very long is because of drawing interrupts out with extra spells. you won't have any energy to do so when you are getting plunked with edrain nonstop. Hmm let me fill you in on a few things you didnt catch when you read through this...1:you cannot be interupted so far with this idea(elite skill...not vwk)2: no enchants to strip and 3: damage can be added through spells like renewing surge 15-51 dmg depending on talent spec and has no cooldown because of our constant item spell. How ever i never claimed that i had a solid build and you do have your opinion that is perfectly cool with me, but I would appreciate it if people like you would read the post entirely before making a comment such as (and i quote) "COMPLETE BULL"

Hmm let me fill you in on a few things you didnt catch when you read through this...1:you cannot be interupted so far with this idea(elite skill...not vwk)2: no enchants to strip and 3: damage can be added through spells like renewing surge 15-51 dmg depending on talent spec and has no cooldown because of our constant item spell. How ever i never claimed that i had a solid build and you do have your opinion that is perfectly cool with me, but I would appreciate it if people like you would read the post entirely before making a comment such as (and i quote) "COMPLETE BULL"
O...I did read through your post. First you say its Rt/P, then you start changing secondaries, as well as making assumptions, but we'll drop that.

Your "known" elite is pretty much worthless. You can't be interrupted, which is all well and good, but the armor barely makes your armor equal that of a warrior minus the shield. Assuming you take a req 8 tactics shield and the ghostforge insignia, you'll have a decent amount of armor, but still unlikely to be enough to tank anywhere near enough to clear in 4 min on HM.

Renewing surge as your only source of damage....LOL. Energy costs of spamming it aside, do you have any idea how much armor one grasp has? I'd guess your surge will do about 20 damage, since you don't even have it at 12 spec. Counting aftercast, and assuming you cast nothing but renewing surge on a single grasp...if the grasp has 600 health, you'll take over 30 sec easily to kill it. And there are how many of those to start with in level 1?

Bonneti's is useless, with secondary /w you will be constantly blinded and crippled, thus you won't be able to gain adrenaline consistently at all. Yes, you will gain adrenaline from taking damage, but I'll get to that.

Assuming you take 10 damage a hit with all your armor buffs up, you have to have a way to heal up that. Resilient weapon will give you some regen, no amount of regen is going to keep you alive. If you spammed vengeful weapon nonstop, it still likely wouldn't be enough.

All that said, you might possibly be able to live for a bit except for one thing...energy denial. With constant fear me from the grasps, you will have no energy. Even if you miraculously get bonneti's off, you can't maintain it...and it ends if you use a skill. No energy...means whatever you use to stay alive doesn't get kept up...and you die.

Summary: You arguably can't even complete the first level in normal mode with a rit solo, let alone in hard mode in 4 minutes (which you established as a "fact" in one of your earlier posts. In fact, you can't complete the first level in hard mode at all. Nothing short of a screenshot proves otherwise. Starting rumors must be fun?


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