Ancient Weapons

Ancient and Legendary Weapons:

There are five known "Ancient Weapons" in the world of Guild Wars. These include:

-Cauldron of Cataclysm
-Sohothin
-Magdaer
-The Scepter of Orr
-The Staff of the Mists

The origins of all these weapons are unknown, but some of their history is known, and some of their powers.

Cauldron of Cataclysm:
This is seen only in Pre-Searing Ascalon in The Northlands. Although a copy of it can be throughout Ascalon - such as at the bonus of the Ruins of Surmia mission. Another copy can be found in the Crystal Overlook in the Desolation.

According to the Ecology of the Charr, this object was given to the Charr by the Titans and is said to be older then the Titans themselves.

This is what caused the Searing, and could easily be considered the most powerful Ancient Weapon - at least in terms of it's connection to the magic school of Destruction.

Sohothin and Magdaer:
The twin swords that have been passed down from king to king in Ascalon longer then we know. At first believed to be simple Fiery Dragon Swords that all of Ascalon's Royalty and Royal Guards wield, now for sure to be two ancient weapons.

The power of these two weapons are unknown, however, one thing these swords can do is known. According to the Ecology of the Charr, Adelbern wiped out all of his own soldiers and the enemy Charr at the Battle of Ascalon City, and raised his soldiers as restless spirits. It is said that a giant white flame in the shape of a sword was cast through the City which killed everyone.

Whether raising the fallen soldiers as ghosts is a part of the power of Magdaer's power or occurred due to dying so fast - and therefore becoming restless and unable/unwilling to go to the Rift - is unknown.

It is believed that the only thing to bring rest to these spirits is the return of Rurik's sword, Sohothin, to Ascalon City. However, if it is in fact that the ghosts are simply restless and not bound to the sword, then this won't work.

So while Sohothin's power is unknown, Magdaer's power seems to lie in the school of Destruction and Denial magic (Destruction for killing, Denial for preventing rest to the spirits).

The Staff of the Mists:

The sister staff to the Scepter of Orr. True origins are unknown, however it is known that the Staff of the Mists, along side the Scepter of Orr, was given to the human kingdoms. By whom is unknown, as is the time frame. The power of these two staves caused constant rivalry and the gods were forced to intervene. At which point, they were lost to time until very recently. (source)

The Staff of the Mists has the power to bend the physical world. By doing this it can heal the wielder and harm the wielder's enemies. It is also believed to have the power to expand one's lifespan.

The Staff of the Mists can be linked to two schools of Magic:
Preservation - healing the wielder.
and
Aggression - stealing life from the wielder's enemies.

Unfortunately, this staff is now destroyed.

The Scepter of Orr:

The most popular ancient weapon of them all. The origins of the Scepter of Orr is the same as the Staff of the Mists, given to ancient human kingdoms, caused rivalry, forced gods to intervene, lost to time until recently.

This staff - I stay staff due to it's size, not name - has the power to bend the mental world. Through this, acting a similar way to the Staff of the Mists, can increase one's concentration, mental abilities, and knowledge - theoretically. It is known that it has the power to increase one's energy, whether through the energy pool or through energy regeneration.

The Scepter of Orr can be loosely linked to the two other schools of magic that the Staff of the Mists is not linked to:
Denial: Although would be better linked by energy stealing (commonly referred to as e-denial), this would easily fit the whole idea of giving energy, both seen abilities of the Scepter of Orr.
and
Destruction: Destruction, the school for Elementalists, seems to require high amounts of energy, therefore the Scepter can give such requirements to the weilder.

It is believed that the Scepter of Orr can control Undead and the Titans. While this is possible - by controlling the spirits of Undead (their source of animation) and the spirits of Titans (which is what Titans technically are) - this is not proven due to the Lich being the one to show control of the Undead and Titans. The Lich controlled Undead long before obtaining the Scepter, and as he was a follower of Abaddon, Abaddon could have ordered the Titans to simply "follow the guy with the stick."

Stormcaller

The Stormcaller is a third legendary “weapon” of Ascalon. It is a giant horn built into the side of a cliff near Rin. It is believed that when used, it would save Ascalon. However, this is now known not to be the case, as Ascalon falls after the Stormcaller’s use.

This object has the ability to summon rain and water upon the land. It is very likely that the Stormcaller will be used by the Charr to hasten the renewal of the land after they retake the land.

Forbidden Scrolls

Although not really weapons, these Scrolls are very powerful objects. They were created between the time between 1 BE and the creation of the Bloodstones, and locked up underneath Orr, supposedly for safe keeping – however, it is thought that they were kept there by the Vizier after being corrupted by Abaddon.

These scrolls were used to destroy Orr and turn Khilbron into a lich – if he wasn’t already one prior to the scrolls’ use.

Along with the aforementioned, it is known that these scrolls contain magic from when all four schools could be wielded at once – meaning that these scrolls contain the magic of Preservation, Aggression, Destruction, and Denial.

Hammer of the Great Dwarf

The Hammer of the Great Dwarf is yet another legendary and powerful dwarven weapon. This weapon has the power to channel the power of the Great Dwarf through the dwarves who go through a ritual that is shown in the Eye of the North campaign.

Old and Powerful Weapons

Ancient Weapon

Despite its name, it is not very old. Created less then two hundred years ago, while not old, it is powerful. This weapon was the bane of the Elonians that resided within the Arid Sea. During their internal struggles, an unnamed person created this weapon to finish the other side of said struggles. This weapon ended up killing them all.

Originally intended to knock down the Lonely Vigil, it now has no use in the GW world, but is known as the weapon that finished of some, if not all, of the Elonians’ squabbles.

Urn of Saint Viktor

The Urn of Saint Viktor is a Kurzick artifact from two hundred years ago. It contains the ashes of the Kurzick hero, Saint Viktor – as the name of the relic implies. The urn has the ability to create a temporary “shield” around those near the relic upon dropping it.

Its ability is the opposite of the ability of the Spear of Archmorus (talked about below), which personifies the difference between the Kurzicks and Luxons. And, the object and power itself personifies the Kurzicks’ desire to defend rather than attack – as shown in various quotes and quests throughout Factions.

Spear of Archemorus

The Spear of Archemorus is a Luxon artifact from two hundred years ago. It contains the ashes (or simply remains – as the skull is seen at the tip of the spear) of the Luxon hero, Archemorus. The spear has the ability to damage all the nearby enemies of the holder upon dropping the relic.

Its ability is the opposite of the ability of the Urn of Saint Viktor (talked about above), which personifies the difference between the Kurzicks and Luxons. And, the object and power itself personifies the Luxons’ desire to attack rather than defend – as shown in various quotes and quests throughout Factions.

Despite its name, it cannot be used as an actual weapon.

Anvil of Dragrimmar

The Anvil of Dragrimmar is a, rather large, ancient Anvil. It was once used by the Great Dwarf himself to make powerful weapons. Due to its size, it cannot be *easily* moved from the Sepulchre of Dragrimmar. Its creator was Dragrimmar, an unknown creature – guessed to be a dwarf.

A slightly more in depths look can be found here.

Mysterious Weapons

Slow Totem

Very little is known about this object. All that is known is:

1) It is a staff.
2) It slows down the enemies of the one who drops it.
3) It is linked to the Mesmer profession (the symbol that appears over foes who become slowed down is the same as the one for imagined burden).

Through what is known, it can be suggested – although far from proven – that this staff once belonged to the Mage Lord Sybitha who once performed experiments in the Crystal Desert – at least to the extent of creating and/or releasing the Storm Riders.

This staff is in the possession of the Losaru Centaurs upon entering the Dunes of Despair mission, suggesting that they stole the staff for it’s power, possibly to use against the Storm Kin – as in The Ranger’s Path quest, it implies that the centaurs are enemies of the Storm Kin.

Palawa Joko's Staff

Very little is known about Palwa Joko’s Staff’s power. All that is known about it is that it has some importance as it was stolen by one of Joko’s generals after his imprisonment and he wanted it back.

Kathandrax’s Crusher

Kathandrax’s Crusher is a legendary and powerful dwarven weapon. Its abilities and origins are unknown. All that is known about it, is that it is, or was, stored in the Catacombs of Kathandrax – within the Charr Homelands – and is a dwarven weapon. This supporting that whoever “Kathandrax” was, it was a dwarf.

This thread just appeared out of nowere....

Anyway something i find interesting about the weapons is that a couple are twins. Scepter of Orr + Staff of the Mists and Sohothin + Magdaer.

Now considering that the Scepter of Orr and Staff of the Mists were given to the great nations, could it be that Sohothin and Magdaer were also given to them along with the two scepters? perhaps what was to become Kryta and Orr were given the Staff of the Mists and Scepter of Orr while Ascalon was handed the two swords.

Anywas as i said over on GWO, the magic of the Cauldron is hinted at being forged by the Ancient Dragons so i doubt the copies are actual cauldrons (unless they liked having their magic floating around tyria in the form of suspious looking Cauldrons)

Due to the location/name of the Scepter of Orr/Staff of the Mists, I think Orr got the Scepter, and the Primeval Dynasty (or an earlier kingdom/dynasty of Elona) got the Staff of the Mists.

With that, it could be said Ascalon and Kryta got the two swords, and Ascalon "stole" Kryta's sword as a spoil of war during one of the past wars. Of course, that is going on the idea that each kingdom got their own little powerful weapon.

Very nice work as always Azazel.

Free runner made a good point, if humans races were all given great weapons of power, in twins. Then perhaps there is a twin to the Cauldron of Cataclysm out there somewhere, under the protection of the Charr.

lol tym 2 stop leeching and give lore a go haha
well it seems 2 me with Ancient Weapons and powerfull wepons
that can only be destroyed in one place in they world that place tends 2 be the the wepons point were the wepon first apperd or was forged
and the fact that it has to be destroyed at " Hallowed Point" hallowd not only meaning sacred Hallowed Point (meaning not only sacred but also revered because of age) one of my questions is if it is the piont were it first apperd would the Scepter of Orr appered with it? if so would they would both have come from elona how did the Scepter of Orr find its way 2 tyria? or are they called sister staffs becuse their powers are lyk two sides of the same coin?

feel free to rip my ideas apart i got a thick skin and its my first tym writting lore (yes i know my spelling is bad i txt 2 much)

While it is possible that the Hallowed Point (which does mean Holy - or "to make holy", so Holy Spot or To Make Holy Spot is what this means) is the creation of the twin scepters (due to same shape, I would say they have the same maker if not same creation location). It can also be argued the reverse:

The Twin Scepters are in fact objects of evil and can only be destroyed in a holy place.

How the Scepter of Orr would make it to Orr from Elona is rather simple, iirc, there use to be a trade between Cantha, Elona, and Tyria, which was canceled by an emperor of Cantha in the past, so at that time, Elona and Tyria probably traded with each other, therefore Kings knew Kings. Also proved by Thorn, Kryta and Elona knew each other for a while. So the Scepter went to Orr, the Staff went to Fahranuh (or somewhere else).

do we know for a fact that they were "giftd" too the human race first? i always thort the forgotten had it first just the shape and size seem like sumthing a forgotten preist would weild or a high ranking forgotten maby they appered with the forgotten when they were given to glint? they seem more like tools than actual wepons of evil. can a weapon be evil? or is it the person that weilds the power that makes its associated with good or evil? they seem lyk handy tools for the forgotten..... controlling both the physical and mental (spiritul?) worlds maby with the appearance of the human race the forgotten relised the world had new protectors/gardians and gave the staffs as an aids not seeing straight away how easly the human race (so new to the world) would become corrupted turning the tools of peace and balance into wepons of pain and distruction

as in my previos posts feel free 2 rip my posts 2 shreds lol i dnt mind being proven rong

lol sori cant sleep it ocured 2 me that maby a weapon becomes good or evil because of who weilds it. Would that mean that a powerful wepon weilded by sum1 upright and pure person could only be destroyed at a defiled point in the world?
with this in mind and the fact that the staffs may not be evil/corrupt or good and pure but insted nutral as any tool is. maby the fact that they can only be destroyed at the hollowed is important? (i think it is. what would make one place beter than other?) maby the point is hallowed because it is revered? a point in the world were tools of such power were forged.. no i dowt they were forged... first appered would be beter worded. and is it ever refered to as hallowed by any of the human spirts? or just the forgotten? a point of Origin for the forgotten as well as the staffs? would that make it hallowed? but that should be spoken about on anuther thread

P.S.
i hesatate to call the staves weapons but rather tools a weapon in essence can only cause harm not heal bt its self a tool may be able to harm as well as heal you wouldnt call a surgeons scalpel a weapon it is a tool even tho it is a form of blade used 2 cut flesh

id also like 2 apologize im tired and my thort paterns are not that orginised hence why my posts are slitly rambled if u want i will rewrite them for you when iv had some sleep so they make more sence and also iv done my best not 2 anoy any1 with bad speling but iv never been good at it

Well its stated that the Scepter and Staff were given to the great nations of the world for protection and then they were misused causing the gods to intervine. For one thing the Forgotten were not at war with each other like the Humans and the "great nations" are generally thought to be the Human nations since Humans completely dominated half of Tyria.

Indeed they are just tools. The weapons themself are not evil but when put in the wrong persons hands they can be incredibly powerful. Since they were originally given out for protection, whoever gave the rulers the Scepter and Staff probably didnt realise that when Humans are given tools of power they become incredibly greedy. However their are exceptions - our own characters. They have wielded both staffs and not once become corrupted by ether despite its power effecting them.

Anyway thats something i want to note.

The only terrible horror i can think of are the Titans but they were not being guarded by the Scepter. What exactly are the Staff and Scepter guarding?

What Free Runner said...

I didn't mean the weapons are evil, but they were created with an evil purpose. Such as created to give to nations to provoke greed and incite the war that did end up happening.

This gives me an idea: What if they were created by the Forgotten (on the Hallowed Point), and were given to the human kingdoms to help them rule when the Forgotten left? Sort of a farewell gift, if you will. Of course this does counter the idea that they were made to incite greed and wars amoung human nations.

as stated above, that is somewhat what I meant.

I don't think a human ghost would know where the Forogtten originated, if they originated at one specific point (remember, they were all over Tyria (world)). There is obviously something missing about the Hallowed Point.

only issue I have is the poor grammar x.x

That is a good question to bring up actually. Perhaps something that was intended for Utopia?

Ok firstly what's with people thinking Livia's gonna end up like Lich? Makes me wonder if people are just blind or stupid, it talks about sacrifices and shows Livia BACKING AWAY from the staff, the sacrifice is her resisting using the staff for the good of everyone blah blah etc., ergo Q.Q.

I don't know whats up with the "Livia = 2nd lich omgwtf"-thing either.
Maybe the same deal as that guy on the wiki trying to turn his fanfiction canon.

It doesnt show her backing away. It shows her hesitating...something most would do when faced with a powerful object. If she takes the Scepter or not is up in the air. As i said countless times in the other thread i believe that the reason for the part on the Scepter was to show its far from gone.

As for why they think shes going to be a second lich - people are still confused with how Vizier Khillbhron became the Undead Lich. Due to this they instantly believe it was the Scepter that did it.Thats of course wrong because he became a Lich before getting the Scepter, and its implied that the Cataclysm was the reason for his transformation.

Lets hope it doesnt suddenly become "Livia becomes a Seer of Twilight".

The whole "Scepter is how Khilbron became a Lich" confusion shows that people should watch the cinematics and read the manual.

So the mysterious Seer of Twilight was from a fan-fict? I never knew where that came from. (learn something every day)

Yes I had to clean up the Bloodstone article because that guy kept throwing in Seers of Twilight and how Abaddon made the bloodstone using the blood of the immortal champions of the Gods or something silly like that. It even contradicts the official lore.

Hmm what about stormcaller? It might be as old as both fireswords... It is very powerful as well.

On the side note:

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Weapon is indeed quite misleading.

Yeah, Stormcaller was brought up in the GWO thread of this. I think I will add that and the Forbidden Scrolls.

Perhaps Stormcaller and the Cauldron are twins? After all, one summons rain and the other summons fire....

....

Twin Scepters=same model

Twin Swords=same model

Stormcaller is a horn, the Cauldron of Cataclysm is, guess what, a Cauldron.

Possible to be counter-parts, but remember, the Cauldron doesn't summon fire, it summons crystals.

Over on GWO, it is being discussed that the Cauldron copy in the Crystal Overlook in the Desolation is what was used to make the Crystal Desert - possibly what Abaddon did in what is mentioned in his Scriptures in the Temple of the Six Gods.

Some NPCs describe it as fire raining from the sky aswell. If i remember correctly it was originally fireballs in the cinematic but Anet added the huge crystals aswell to avoid confusion (people wondering where the crystals had come from)

I think the fireball idea was the original idea, but later changed to being "meteorites" or crystals. Which was later evolved into the Abaddon Scriptures. Iirc, only Erol from the Ruins of Surmia mission says raining fire.

That's my opinion that is.

hmm i noticd in the The Ecology of the Charr. It is said the Cauldron’s magic was older than the Charr, older even than recorded history, and forged by ancient entities fallen into sleep and quiescence. hmm sounds like maby the Ancient dragons?

We already know it was a gift from the Titans, who are related to Abaddon.
And Abaddon just happens to have an interest for ancient artifacts, so we're still floating around the idea of it being from the dragons.

Dhuum can be seen as being asleep when he was resting and preparing for his assaults in GW1, and he would be ancient.

Abaddon, also ancient, could be seen as sleeping in our world due to his lack of interaction until Nightfall, and afterwards can be seen as sleeping within Kormir.

So right there means 3 possibilities for the Cauldron's origin. Ancient Dragons, Abaddon, and Dhuum (loosely).

Or something altogether new - something from the books perhaps. Afterall it says "fallen into sleep" and not "that have been asleep since Ancient Times." For all we know, Glint - and ancient being, could be it's origin (going to regret saying that, I know it, someone's gonna go with "ZOMG GLINT'S EVIL! I KNEW IT!).

However, I have a feeling it is more of using the magic of the Ancient Dragons, and not being made by them.

Considering how much the GW2 articles "big up" the Ancient Dragons i think we can be sure that its talking about the dragons and not Dhuum or Abaddon. For one thing nether Dhuum or Abaddon are dormant as far as i know - Dhuum appeared to be working with Menzies and Abaddon during Nightfall.

It also says it goes back into pre history which is another hint at the Ancient Dragons. That sentence pretty much says that the thing that created the magic for it was around before history was recorded, has fallen asleep and is dormant. I dont think it could be any clearer

I'm just trying to argue against everything being connected to the Ancient Dragons now.

And we don't know how old Abaddon and Dhuum are. And the oldest history is recorded at the gods' showing up on Tyria. But never the gods' origins.

Or history of any gods before the current ones.

And iirc, Dhuum isn't in our history. He could have been overthrown before Tyria's creation.

But nether are dormant. Abaddon is broken and Dhuum is weak from his previous defeat.

Also when i said about prehistory, i wasnt saying that Abaddon or Dhuum do not stretch that far back, but that the Movement of the World article mentions that the Ancient Dragons also came from beyond the point of history being recorded.

And it also mentions that they were in some kind of sleep and were dormant. Then the Ecology of the Charr mentions that the ancient entities who could of forged the Cauldrons magic were from prehistory, went into hibernation at some point and became dormant. After reading the two articles i find it impossible to think that it was not trying to hint at the dragons.

I'm not trying to create nonexistant connections with the dragons - i'm saying that the article is attempting to point a connection out.

As I said, Dhuum might have been seen as dormant between the time of his fall and returning. Also we don't know what happens in between GW1 and GW2, he might be dormant during that time. As for Abaddon, he could have been seen as dormant from Tyria between 0 AE and 1075 AE, then again within Kormir (there are GWO threads on that discussion: "Is Abaddon alive?")

Prehistory comment: Abaddon and Dhuum existed before the gods came to Tyria. The article doesn't need to mean that the beings that created the Cauldron went dormant before recorded history, just that the beings existed before recorded history.

And no, the Giganticus Lupicus does not count as recorded history because it is a guessed record, and that doesn't really count as history. It is just an educated guess. Not legit yet.

And I would like to think that Ree Soesbee is capable of "pointing us in the wrong direction." Things can be worded to sound like one thing (because it is the first thing to come to our mind) but might mean something else.

I am simply bringing out other possibilities. I'm not say "No, it is not the Ancient Dragons." but instead saying "Why can't it be something other then the Ancient Dragon?"

It counts as the starting point of recorded history. It may just be a guess but that is the first thing ever recorded.

True but then we should ask why would she want to point us in the wrong direction in the GW2 backstory which is already vague as it is. Its also not just wording - it takes the things known about the dragons and then places them together into a sentence.

I could say the same thing about Dhuum. Infact Dhuum has the most things attributed to him when theories come up - even more than the dragons.

Anyway getting back to this:

Quite a few things mention fire raining from the sky in the searing. Its possible that it was actually fire that brought down crystals with it. That would at least explain why the earth is scorched so badly from giant crystals.

Not the first thing recorded, but the earliest time recorded. Before recorded history, imo, would mean before history was being recorded. \

The Movement of the World is about GW2 backstory. The Ecology of the Charr is the Charr backstory, both GW1 and GW2 backstory, and the information on the Cauldron of Cataclysm is in the Ecology of the Charr, so this information can be viewed as general GW background, not simply GW2 background.


I think that is because there was no hint of Abaddon until Nightfall came out (aside from Abaddon's Mouth). And Dhuum has been around longer then the Ancient Dragons. We've only known about the Ancient Dragons since the Movement of the World *before it wasn't really sure what they were*, Dhuum we knew about since Prophecies came out.


I would argue it to be the other way. The crystals brought down fire when entering the atmosphere. The fire burned the land while the crystals kicked up dust covering plants and blocking the sun for a bit - preventing immediate plant growth.

This would also be attributed with the Crystal Desert - not sure if I mentioned here, but over on GWO, people believe that the cauldron copy in the Crystal Overlook was used by Abaddon and his followers and created the meteorite shower in the Scriptures of Abaddon. The Crystals made the desert - via erosion from the remaining water, the fire evaporated some of the water.

The first thing ever recorded (guess or not) would still be the earliest time ever recorded. The last signs of the Giganticus Lupicus was placed on a guess at 10,000 BE. Thats the basic starting point of known history - 10,000 BE - anything before 10,000 BE was never recorded hence it being before history was recorded.

My point was that we used to (and in some cases still do ie the Mysterious Stranger) place Dhuum behind everything despite there being no evidence. The Ancient Dragons share all the conditions of the "ancient entities" - we know they do from reading the Movement of the World, and seeing them in GW1.

However we dont know if Dhuum or Abaddon share these conditions - we're only guessing there. As far as we know, Abaddon is broken and Dhuum was last seen commanding his forces to aid Abaddon. Abaddon wasnt dormant during his imprisonment ether - he was furthering his plans of escape.




Doesnt the same scripture also say that whatever Abaddon used, caused the seas to boil and rupture and create a powerful Maelstrom?

Not sure if you get what I mean. I mean that the GL wasn't the first thing recorded, but in the timeline, took place earliest. Occuring first doesn't always mean being recorded first, and that is what I was meaning.


My point was that we used to (and in some cases still do ie the Mysterious Stranger) place Dhuum behind everything despite there being no evidence. The Ancient Dragons share all the conditions of the "ancient entities" - we know they do from reading the Movement of the World, and seeing them in GW1.

However we dont know if Dhuum or Abaddon share these conditions - we're only guessing there. As far as we know, Abaddon is broken and Dhuum was last seen commanding his forces to aid Abaddon. Abaddon wasnt dormant during his imprisonment ether - he was furthering his plans of escape.


When extreme heat touches something cool, what do you think will happen?

Explosions. The water would boil - just as a pot of water over a stove would - and the Crystals would explode from the heat touching the cool water.

Maelstrom, or a whirlpool, could have been occured by a air pocket being opened up by a falling crystal - i.e., a side affect.

And something you missed: Transformation of the sky into a "midnight void," which, well when the searing occursed the sky turned red. Nothing to deny that a stronger caster causes a more powerful "searing" - which in effect turns the sky darker. Also note that there is a climate/location difference which could lead to the sky not being as clear. Could have been a cloudier day, possibly misty like described in the beginning of the scriptures.

But here's a kicker. The scriptures doesn't say if it was during the day or night - it just says "on the 51st day" which could mean daytime or nighttime - if it was night then it could have simply darkened the sky to block out the starlight. Or, if day, an eclipse could have happened - a coincidence believed to be the power of Abaddon. Or a different spell.

I know that last part you'll say "you're just making things up" but all plausible, and I hold to the first paragraph of the midnight void sky. Just thought I'd bring up other possibilities. I love doing that.

I think you forgot to add some quote tags there

True but i cant help reading the scripture differently. If the "stars" caused the water to boil up surely it should of read like this:

Also when reading it:

I get the impression that the maelstrom was the cause of the sky becoming the midnight void. It could just be Anet wording everything strangely. Or it could be that it was the Cauldrons magic being used, and Abaddon threw in some of his power over water to make sure the job was done.

Random.

Palawa Joko's Golden staff.

In the bonus mission pack he has it , and then again when you free him.

He is very old, and that staff is very unique, no?

or am i just being silly.


~Frozenwind

I'll look into joko's staff, but I'm guessing it's not an uberpowerful weapon.

I'll look into joko's staff, but I'm guessing it's not an uberpowerful weapon.

Joko's Staff is something of interest, as there is a quest about it, which talks about it being powerful. But Ancient, I don't think so.

@ Free Runner:

We don't know how scientific the people of Tyria were back in 1 BE, they might not have known the whole heat+cool=explosion and the boiling thing as being possible quickly.

The Maelstrom, which at second look seems to be more of a black hole not a whirlpool, I'll have to think on.

Er..Personally, that's not my view of it. I took it as being created partly due to Abaddon's magic when he struck down the Forgotten armada, causing a slight decrease in the water level via evaporation as you said, but not that it was caused by the usage of the cauldron copy in the Crystal Overlook. I think it was purely Abaddon's magic at work there, not an artifact's.

Er..What? Since when does water explode in contact with something extremely hot? Boil, yes, turn into steam, yes, but I have never seen water explode.

Twilight sky seems to hint at evening, at the very least.

The water doesn't explode, but the solid. When you take something that has been heated to an extreme temperature, then poor cool water on it (or other way around), the solid cracks and depending on the temperature difference, can explode upon cracking. In this case, the crystals would crack and explode under the surface causing an explosion underwater. From observation it would look like the water explodes, not the crystal.

In that case, I see what you mean. However, it is very unclear in your post that you mean the crystals themselves and not the water.