Cost of setting up a PermaSfSin?

Okay so I have a level 20 Sin, he has completed Factions, can get as far as Sunspear Sanctuary in NF, has been to only Lions Arch in Proph and just Boreal Station in GWEN.

If I wanted to make him in to one of these much talked about permaSFsins for some serious farming, what will my layout costs be? Do I need to do or get to anywhere specific to make him viable or worthwhile - from a farming perspective?

There was a SF nerf a while back, is it still a good farming build for a beginner farmer?

Thanks in advance for help with this.

all you really need is a +20% enchant weapon and a +12 energy inspiration off hand. after the buff tho, u dont need the +20% enchant but i still use it mainly b/c thats all i got . the cost of those two go for about 4-6k i would guess. i paid around 2k for both of em.

armor wise ull need to get max armor with full radiant and superior rune (1 shadow). also all attunement too. That goes around 12-15k if im not mistaken.

I wouldn't recommend trying to set up your sin to perma until after this update. There's a good chance perma-sins will get nerfed. Just give it two days.

its around 10k or so for runes, staff (what i use), insignias.

Supp Shadow Arts-9k
4x Radiant Runes-3.2k
4x Attunement Runes-2.4k

BMP Sword/Axe/Spear w/ +5e 20%-5-6k
BMP Inspiration/Fire Focus(depending on a/me or a/e) w/ hct spells 10%-2-3k
BMP Inspiration/Fire Focus w/ 15/1 inion-2k
Farming anything you want cause pve is so LOL broken-priceless

so basically you're looking at 24-26k but thats like i UW run to pay it back(not counting cons)

around 15-20k but you'd best wait till this update.

Let's see... You'll need:

1) a set of armor (max is preferable but not needed) with Shadow Arts headpiece ~ 5K
2) a staff with 20% enchant mod or a totem axe and max offhand of devotion ~ 5k
3) 5 Radiant Insignia + Major/Sup Shadow Arts Rune (really having 14 in shadow arts is enough, but 15 or 16 makes it easier) ~ 3k
4) Skills: Deadly Paradox, Shadow Form, Glyph of Swiftness, assorted damage skills depending on specific farming location ~ 5k
5) (Optional) Assorted health runes, especially if planning on doing VS farm

So thats it. Yes, it does seem like a lot of money, but remember this estimate assumes you have to buy every single thing on the list... most of us have weapons and insignias lying around for future use, and you may already have some of the skills needed.

Also, its worth noting that even though this might be a costly set up, you'll make the money back pretty quickly... for example the first time I sucessfully completed a Chaos Planes run (post nerf that is) I got 2 rubies, 5 ectos and assorted golds in about an hour... which would more than pay for the set up costs.

Good luck! Though, you probably SHOULD wait for the update before bothering... Shadow Form has been nerfed before... and its bound to be again sooner or later.

agree with everyone else, wait until the update

lets hope if sf does get nerfed that we can still maintain perma sf

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thanks everyone for all the responses, I just popped in game to check out sup shadow arts rune and its currently at 7k! So I think I'll probably wait and see what these updates do, just in case.

Conditions aren't damage, they are degen. This is why even with the current 50% less damage dealt while under the effects of Shadow Form many 'Sins have swapped to Frigid Armor + Burning Speed and/or Radiation Field. Check any mechanics info you want to, this information is correct.

not too much. you dont need max aromor so i would say around maybe 8-10kish

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