Community manager meeting

RbX

RbX

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Devils Dark Destiny

W/E

Yesterday evening (european time) Regina Buenaobra, Martin Kerstein & Peter Verhelst dropped by to answer some questions about the update and other stuff.

Meeting
Although the site is in german...you just have to click on the images to see the talk.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

So lets sum this up: reduced numbers on reputation titles, wisdom/treasure hunter account based and unlucky change, a few new option to get rep pts.

Wow, thats not much.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

I LOVED the info on Martin's TV!

take_me

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

Thanks for posting. Not really new info in it.
To sum it up:

- Cap on Kuzick/luxon titles will be increased
- Wisdom/Treasure Hunter will be made account wide
- There will be new ways of getting SS and LB points
- No skill changes
- no new titles
- no HoM-changes
- update will probably come out on Friday
- no new weapon skin in the next time
- no new emotes are planned
- no double party point weekend is planned

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Which is everything we already knew. w00t

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Real shame about the Unlicky title.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Quote:
Originally Posted by take_me View Post
Thanks for posting. Not really new info in it.
To sum it up:

- Cap on Kuzick/luxon titles will be increased
- Wisdom/Treasure Hunter will be made account wide
- There will be new ways of getting SS and LB points
- No skill changes
- no new titles
- no HoM-changes
- update will probably come out on Friday
- no new weapon skin in the next time
- no new emotes are planned
- no double party point weekend is planned
You forgot about 4 GWEN titles and hiring a community manager for a French community.

take_me

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasgaliel View Post
You forgot about 4 GWEN titles and hiring a community manager for a French community.
Ye, I'm sorry. And I forgot to mention that Regina drinks Tea for breakfast.

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

hmm, they are getting lazy by the minute.

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

no skills balance -_-
lame update

Martin Kerstein

Martin Kerstein

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
I LOVED the info on Martin's TV!
Glad you liked it

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasgaliel View Post
You forgot about 4 GWEN titles and hiring a community manager for a French community.
what about 4 GWEN tittles?

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein View Post
Glad you liked it
^^
Too cute for words!

(Seriously - super sweet since the whole thing went: boring, boring, boring, boring, I giggled at the TV since it was so random, boring, boring, boring.)

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Quote:
Originally Posted by netniwk View Post
what about 4 GWEN tittles?
Number changes and new ways to get points - that is what was said. My guess is that the cap will be reduced and some rewards increased.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

Treasure Hunter / Wisdom old news.

Faction Alliance titles are a mute point since you get the HoM trophy at r4 which is simple enough to get. There was never any benefit of maxing them anyway, r12 doesn't even get you a increase in skill potency.

Gwen reputation grind if not made account wide. Does nothing except stab the people in the back who already maxed them. Even if they dropped the cap those who already grinded 160k per title are too burn't out to repeat it on several toons. A shame people can't get those pve skills up to max level more than one toon. Without killing themselves.

SS/LB was never a issue took about 20 hrs after finishing the campaign to max both. Many maxed them out on several toons so don't know why this one was on the chopping block. Just another back stab to veteran players.

Unlucky will be interesting, but since you get the HoM trophy at r2 it doesn't matter much either.

All in all it seems quite underwhelming, nothing at all for veteran pve'rs but new players seem to be getting a free pass lets hope something unforeseen and great comes from this watering down of titles.

citizensmith1001

citizensmith1001

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Behind You

[RoaR]

D/

No SF nerf ???

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte View Post
So lets sum this up: reduced numbers on reputation titles, wisdom/treasure hunter account based and unlucky change, a few new option to get rep pts.

Wow, thats not much.
Not much? They didn't say what the new options for rep points are, but they could have taken a substantial amount of work. Plus the amount of work that must have gone into changing quest rewards in NF/Factions/EotN, fixing Unlucky so the Wisdom/Treasure change doesn't break it, etc. Sounds like plenty to me!

From everything we've heard and already seen, from the small nerf to Essence of Celerity to the doubling of Kurzick/Luxon blessings, it appears that quite a bit of thought went into this to make it a true balance, rather than a couple of quick fixes. Some things will get easier. Some things (such as HFFF) will get harder. I'm looking forward to seeing the complete package. But I think you do the devs an injustice to say it's "not much" without having even seen it.

nvmu

nvmu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X View Post
All in all it seems quite underwhelming, nothing at all for veteran pve'rs but new players seem to be getting a free pass lets hope something unforeseen and great comes from this watering down of titles.
Agreed, now only if we got more content instead...

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Game-affecting titles should never have been introduced, so making SS/LB easier isn't unwelcome. Not as welcome as just completely axing them, but credit for effort, I guess...

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

So hardly the most update notes ever...

EDIT: I do appreciate the effort the devs are making though.

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X View Post
SS/LB was never a issue took about 20 hrs after finishing the campaign to max both. Many maxed them out on several toons so don't know why this one was on the chopping block. Just another back stab to veteran players.
Well tbh, we all know how most of these "veteran players" did max LB. AFK farm ftw.
And maxing SS after you finish the game = complete ridiculance, since you just grind grind grind on enemyes...
Back stab? I dont think so. It's just the correct thing to do. Go Anet.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X View Post
Faction Alliance titles are a mute point since you get the HoM trophy at r4 which is simple enough to get.
I've finished Factions and vanquished all but 2 areas that give Kurzick rep points - I have 45K faction, which isn't even r1! It might be "simple" to reach r4 if you play the PvP games, but it isn't in PvE.

nvmu

nvmu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark View Post
Well tbh, we all know how most of these "veteran players" did max LB. AFK farm ftw.
And maxing SS after you finish the game = complete ridiculance, since you just grind grind grind on enemyes...
Back stab? I dont think so. It's just the correct thing to do. Go Anet.
How I maxed lb on my necro was simply just setting my necro up as a trapper and trapping with the rangers in Veil, grant it this was when people still trapped Veil.
And for ss, alot of people who did the ss/lb runs were also farming for ele swords, well when they were worth something.

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X View Post
Just another back stab to veteran players.
More like a boon to every veteran player who, like me, was too bored by grinding to ever max a reputation title.

Well look who's reaping all the benefits now you industrious people...finally my laziness is paying off.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X View Post
All in all it seems quite underwhelming, nothing at all for veteran pve'rs but new players seem to be getting a free pass lets hope something unforeseen and great comes from this watering down of titles.
Veteran does not mean the same thing as a title grinder.

I've been playing since day one, I don't have a ton of stupid titles maxed, and I don't want a ton of stupid titles maxed. PvE doesn't have to mean titles. I was fine playing PvE before the introduction of titles.

I'm a veteran player and I approve of this watering down of titles.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca View Post
Veteran does not mean the same thing as a title grinder.

I've been playing since day one, I don't have a ton of stupid titles maxed, and I don't want a ton of stupid titles maxed. PvE doesn't have to mean titles. I was fine playing PvE before the introduction of titles.

I'm a veteran player and I approve of this watering down of titles.
seconded
Hell, make Koabd account wide.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

They should do something that adds life to the game that's all I know, but it doesn't look like this update will be doing that. It also sucks that it's not coming today, sucks bad bad bad.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

<title grinder, and i approve of these title changes, no reduction in difficulty in any of them, just reduction of grind for the extreme titles and annoying behaviors of others.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca View Post
Veteran does not mean the same thing as a title grinder.

I've been playing since day one, I don't have a ton of stupid titles maxed, and I don't want a ton of stupid titles maxed. PvE doesn't have to mean titles. I was fine playing PvE before the introduction of titles.

I'm a veteran player and I approve of this watering down of titles.
If titles are not your cup of tea, why would you care? From your statement you can't be bothered to max a title regardless of what Anet does so why would you back tampering with them after years and thousands of players have finished the game and the titles?

You don't care about titles yet you jump and applaud news of something that doesn't even effect you. If something is broken it should be fixed no doubt but all that is happening here watering down for the sake of watering down.SS/LB has been around two years with 10's of thousand of players maxing the title 9.3% of players have maxed SS and 6.5% have maxed LB (this is taken from a sample of 20,000 players on gwcharacters) but that is a lot of people who haven't had issue with those titles.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

as a multi-character player, I am more than happy that they are making some of the titles account wide...it wont affect my 'unlicky' title as 99/100 even with more than 50% chance I STILL break my lockpicks----(this update may give me 90/100 wooot!).
My armor hogs would really appreciate a lower level on eye armor rep---but doubt that will happen (eye gets old real really realllllly fast after the first 10 characters).
kurzick/luxon faction as has been said r4 is all thats necessary so thats what I got (yes multi-characters certainly help on that one)....not worried about the 'max' of that one as I will never look at it again.
ss/lb....have yet to max lb but after my first character maxed ss I gave up on it and went to the next character (she is almost there, guess I should finish it up before tomorrow?)...doing wurm runs gets older than farming raptors (and with my reputation for grape drops and grapes from locked chests...it gets sad, really sad).

ah, well, I am impressed they are still working on gw and that they are trying to keep some of the players happy....as they say you cant please all the people all of the time, but sometime you please someone.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

they delayed the update a week so they would have time to finish it and now they may delay it another day? someone needs to pick up the slack -_-

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte View Post
So lets sum this up: reduced numbers on reputation titles
So they are going to reduce the amount needed to max Luxan and Kurzick then nerf PVE quests that give rep making rep harder to obtain?

If so, then they are not going to really do anything to actually make it easier like they said they were it will be more like as one evens out the other. We will be essentially back to square one and people will again be seeking new ways to bot rep quick again because it will still take as just as long as before.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

Look here is how I see thing...

Remember that these titles go into the HoM. So with that in mind...there must be a tie in for the players playing now to get things in the new guild wars.

So those of you that bought the game 3 years ago will be rewarded with - the titles that you have now and the resulting things that this unlocks in GW2 giving an instant advantage.

If the veteran players did not think that this was the case then they would have empty halls and too many ectos to count.

My example is that I just got the Norn armor this weekend for my war. I reached lvl 5 of the title and then proceeded to get my armor. That stuff almost bankrupted me. It cost me 65K for the mats and another 50K to craft it. I can not even use it yet as I haven't got enough gold to add the runes to it so I am farming them.

The reason that I do not have a lot of gold is that I have been doing the slow steady march to the Lucky and UnLucky titles for my war. It pays for itself but if you consider that I have a 56% chance to retain my lockpick in gwen area it takes a lot of lockpicks to open 10,000 chests! I have spend over 1,000,000 gold already just in lockpicks. Ask Octavia - rest of name omitted - I am only lvl 2 in both Titles in this toon so any changes are great as I need as much help as I can get cause I do not have FACTIONS. So the Board walk 9 rings game is out for me.

So Woot for the changes!!

Jecht Scye

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

I'm a title grinder, and I don't think they're backstabbing me. Make the titles less annoying to get, since I wish they were when I got them.

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

the images wont load for me.... from everything i have read though the update will be tonight

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

Its just a gut feeling that they're hiding something from us... something big. This doesnt seem like enough to be the longest update notes ever.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

As a veteran player who happens to be a title grinder, I don't think the confirmed changes (account-wide treasure/Wisdom, etc.) are a slap in the face to anyone. But I do see them as a boon for those who haven't maxed out the various titles being tweaked.

Not being able to get survivor on my main, I've been trying to sort out what title number 30 will be. My best options are: Kurzick [15% complete], Lucky[35%], Treasure[30%], Wisdom[25%], Unlicky[15%]. If nothing else, this update will help sort out which one to shoot for.

ele pl

ele pl

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scythe O F Glory View Post
Its just a gut feeling that they're hiding something from us... something big. This doesnt seem like enough to be the longest update notes ever.

Yea, i have exacly the same feeling. There MUST BE something big. Also, the essence nerf... i expect moar than just title update, from this title update.

BulletStopper

BulletStopper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Staring At my computer

Knights an Heroes

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
As a veteran player who happens to be a title grinder, I don't think the confirmed changes (account-wide treasure/Wisdom, etc.) are a slap in the face to anyone. But I do see them as a boon for those who haven't maxed out the various titles being tweaked.
/agreed

I also have been playing since the beta and am a title grinder. I choose to get GWAMM on my main. I did it for myself, not to impress others. If toning down the requirements for some of these titles keeps someone else from "enjoying" the hours of HFFF I did for that 30th title - good for them. Guess I should have waited - it's not like GW2 comes out next week, nor has there been anything stated about any benefit to titles anyway.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by take_me View Post
Thanks for posting. Not really new info in it.
To sum it up:

- Cap on Kuzick/luxon titles will be increased
- Wisdom/Treasure Hunter will be made account wide
- There will be new ways of getting SS and LB points
- No skill changes
- no new titles
- no HoM-changes
- update will probably come out on Friday
- no new weapon skin in the next time
- no new emotes are planned
- no double party point weekend is planned

your statment on kur/lux title cap being hgigher wrong fyi

it will stay the same hff getting chamged and there will be easier way to get faction