Will Anton ever see the light of day?
Silversword22
I'm liking physical-heavy teams more and more. Usually, I use warrior heroes....sometimes dervs....but never assassins. Anton is pretty cool to look at, but every build I set him up with he somehow screws up. So...does anyone in the community actually USE their assassin heroes? If so, would you mind posting the build you use? ...Anybody?
Super Igor
Outside HB, no.
You can try [corrupt enchantment][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][augury of death][crippling dagger][resurrection signet] if you want.
You can try [corrupt enchantment][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][augury of death][crippling dagger][resurrection signet] if you want.
Tyla
If I will ever use an Assassin hero I'd be running Critbarrage.
[barrage][distracting shot][way of the master][no skill][no skill][no skill][no skill][no skill]
Yeah, that's basically it.
They see extremely limited use.
[barrage][distracting shot][way of the master][no skill][no skill][no skill][no skill][no skill]
Yeah, that's basically it.
They see extremely limited use.
Arlan
Anton is my gimp and is only allowed out when he's been really well behaved!!!!!!
madriel222
I use Anton quite a bit, especially if I want heavy interrupts. Similar to the Crit-Barrager, I tend to set him as an A/R with IA and Disrupting Accuracy. The rest of the bar fills out like a Crit-Barrager.
isildorbiafra
Anton is useless except for HFFF!
-Lotus-
I would love to use anton if the fixed the melee AI. the way it is now the only decont way to use melee professions is to give them gimmick midline builds.
apparently you dont care about your heroes being terrible though (you are using warriors and dervs) so go ahead and the anton, he will never pick a target and kill it, but he won't be any worse than koss of melloni.
apparently you dont care about your heroes being terrible though (you are using warriors and dervs) so go ahead and the anton, he will never pick a target and kill it, but he won't be any worse than koss of melloni.
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[Morkai]
Considered trying an A/D WS spammer, but i'd use Zenmai, cos she looks cooler :P
Narcin
the AI for assassins are just terreble... they dont get the chain system of lead, offhand, dual...
Super Igor
They do but melee AI is bad in general, so on a hero that has light armor it becomes a pain, at least wars have armor and dervs have health.
xDusT II
Who the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is Anton?
Tearmaker
How well would Anton work if he was given the skill set of the Ebon Vanguard Assasin Support? That little magical dude seems to work well enough.
Haven't tried but curious...
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Haven't tried but curious...
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xDusT II
oh woo another Assassin hero. I happened to make the mistake of actually unlocking zenmai which had the unfortunate disadvantage of making my more useful heroes harder to find. Thanks for warning me in advance to stay well away from this guy.
pumpkin pie
Normal Mode, tested on Lian
Hard Mode, tested on other Jade Brotherhood, okay, but not Lian so not recommended for HM
[build=Anton's Daylight;OwBS45PTEgaNQMvZHfLQ7I4O]
not perfected, good for NM only, but non tested extensively, any suggestion to make it a HM build would be much appreciated.
Hard Mode, tested on other Jade Brotherhood, okay, but not Lian so not recommended for HM
[build=Anton's Daylight;OwBS45PTEgaNQMvZHfLQ7I4O]
not perfected, good for NM only, but non tested extensively, any suggestion to make it a HM build would be much appreciated.
topsmoker1
[build=Critical Barrager;OwJikxjMtYgrtasIq/MA55IAAA]
Super Igor
[word of healing][mending touch][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][augury of death][return]
???
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avilia
I've had some fun with this build (with me bringing Great Dwarf Weapon and Livia bringing Mark of Pain and Barbs).
Not all that powerful TBH, but a lot of fun.
[Locust's Fury][Critical Eye][Critical Defenses][Heket's Rampage][Call of Protection][Otyugh's Cry][Comfort Animal][Charm Animal]
Not all that powerful TBH, but a lot of fun.
[Locust's Fury][Critical Eye][Critical Defenses][Heket's Rampage][Call of Protection][Otyugh's Cry][Comfort Animal][Charm Animal]
Sethellington
Quote:
Originally Posted by isildorbiafra
Anton is useless except for HFFF!
Uh-oh! Not anymore. You jinxed it! :P
-Lotus-
Quote:
Originally Posted by isildorbiafra
Anton is useless
fixed!!
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xanarot
as avilia mentions, the only good way is to limit the skill use. using high attack speed + high double strike chance + pet starts to add up when you dump barbs and the like on the target.
As well, the pet with high armor and reduction along with the increased block chance makes it a nice combo for body blocking.
Just to bad 8+ minions do that scaling and body blocking so much better.
As well, the pet with high armor and reduction along with the increased block chance makes it a nice combo for body blocking.
Just to bad 8+ minions do that scaling and body blocking so much better.
Shadowmere
I feel ya on that one, I like the assassin heroes but they make themselves very undesirable. The AI really is terrible when it comes to using attack chains, this means my Anton and Zenmai never ever get to touch daggers. Crit-Barrage or a dumbed down ScytheSin build is where you can find a home for them.
Also one interesting option you could try (speaking as a long time curse necro here) is give Anton [locust's fury] and an IAS call a target hit it with [mark of pain]/[barbs] and giggle as everything explodes while he's flailing away at them. Just a thought
Also one interesting option you could try (speaking as a long time curse necro here) is give Anton [locust's fury] and an IAS call a target hit it with [mark of pain]/[barbs] and giggle as everything explodes while he's flailing away at them. Just a thought
Daesu
If AI is the problem, then why dont you look at an effective assassin monster skill bar and try to copy it. Besides the monster skills and high level which you cant mimic, they should share a similar AI.
Also, some people are saying that the Oni and Raptor summonings are quite good and they are assassins. Has anyone tried their skill bars on Zenmai or Anton?
Also, some people are saying that the Oni and Raptor summonings are quite good and they are assassins. Has anyone tried their skill bars on Zenmai or Anton?
Tyla
It isn't just the bars with the AI, its how they run around while you're kiting or something.
Painbringer
I have run the sins with a basic shadow step 1 2 3
[Beguiling Haze]
Was not the best but it does help with some nasty casters
[Beguiling Haze]
Was not the best but it does help with some nasty casters
Coney
Did this ranger build, worked OK:
[build=OwJikxjMtY8YMBNAp/sIidIAAA]
A derv build, forget how crappy it was...:
[build=OwpiMypMBgBdNgNAp/sIOBJAAA]
Was looking at trying this one, haven't tested it yet (need staff for builds like this to be effective, so I hear):
[build=OwNS4YPPmEtGEzN/mlY8IBA]
[build=OwJikxjMtY8YMBNAp/sIidIAAA]
A derv build, forget how crappy it was...:
[build=OwpiMypMBgBdNgNAp/sIOBJAAA]
Was looking at trying this one, haven't tested it yet (need staff for builds like this to be effective, so I hear):
[build=OwNS4YPPmEtGEzN/mlY8IBA]
distilledwill
I used my Zenmai with this for a while:
[Wounding Strike][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Disrupting Dagger][Way Of The Master][Critical Eye][Dash][Resurrection Signet]
[Wounding Strike][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Disrupting Dagger][Way Of The Master][Critical Eye][Dash][Resurrection Signet]
AtomicMew
I'm surprised no one has said this:
[Dark Apostasy][Volley][Called Shot]
[Dark Apostasy][Volley][Called Shot]
House Silvermoon
with such crappy bars no wonder ur sins see no use.