Please MERGE the Storybooks together
Bristlebane
With the November 13 patch, total amount of Storybooks was increased from 4 to 11. If you do lots of events with friends and guild, you will probably end up with a whole lot of books not to lose any log entries. But 11 is far too much!
I do have a concrete suggestion on how to improve this. Create a "Compilation" covering ALL books, with each Storybook covering 1-2 pages. When you wish to turn in some pages for a reward, simply clear the entries from the book.
I can't see any disadvantages with that. Anyone who disagrees? I hope as many as possible can /sign this idea.
Daedra Deinheart
You dont have to carry the mission storybooks with you, all you have to do is pay a small fee for the entries if you dont have the book, I think ^^
((__(CRAYOLA)__> (Idk I felt life doing it
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((__(CRAYOLA)__> (Idk I felt life doing it
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Konig Des Todes
Sorry, but they CANNOT merge them.
Book items, like 11 items you posted, and the Incubator, and Zho's Journal, and M.O.X.'s Manual, can only hold 18 items - or pages. The Dungeon Books and Prophecies Book already hold 18 items.
So, sorry, you can't.
Besides, why would you want to merge all 4 mission books into one? Then you would have to do all 4 campaigns per book you do.
Book items, like 11 items you posted, and the Incubator, and Zho's Journal, and M.O.X.'s Manual, can only hold 18 items - or pages. The Dungeon Books and Prophecies Book already hold 18 items.
So, sorry, you can't.
Besides, why would you want to merge all 4 mission books into one? Then you would have to do all 4 campaigns per book you do.
Lawliet Kira
how bout they give us another thing like a belt pouch but called a storybook pouch for our books
CyberMesh0
Not merge. Just create an incubator-like item that holds books instead.
Bristlebane
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Besides, why would you want to merge all 4 mission books into one? Then you would have to do all 4 campaigns per book you do.
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Originally Posted by Bristlebane
When you wish to turn in some pages for a reward, simply clear the entries from the book.
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Bristlebane
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Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
Not merge. Just create an incubator-like item that holds books instead.
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But yes, a "collection" to keep all your books in would be very useful. And while at it, might as well do an "armor" kit as well ;-)
Absinth187
I just don't understand why we can't "document" our conquests when we get to a town without paying a dude to fill in our book. If our book gets filled out during a quest/mission/whatever I assume our character is busily filling it out. 
Give us a little library tab in storage that shows your current character's collection. Open up a book, press a little button to update, and you can put it in your backpack to take to the respective NPC.
Give us a little library tab in storage that shows your current character's collection. Open up a book, press a little button to update, and you can put it in your backpack to take to the respective NPC.
Hyper Cutter
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Originally Posted by Daedra Deinheart
[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][I]You dont have to carry the mission storybooks with you, all you have to do is pay a small fee for the entries if you dont have the book, I think ^^
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Siniminister
Why they find the need for us to hold books in our inventory is beyond me. Just make it part of the GW interface.
Shayne Hawke
I think it's funny that you think you need to carry around 11 books when only one is going to get filled.
Divide and conquer. /notsigned
Divide and conquer. /notsigned
pamelf
We need book storage. We also have the BMP books now. I don't mind the merge idea, but personally I think a bag just for books wouldn't go astray.
HawkofStorms
This is... the most brillant, simple idea to fix this problem ever. Why didn't I (or a.net) think of this?
And Sayne Hawke, just because you only need to carry around 1 book at a time while doing the mission, you still need to put those books somewhere (ie storage). Otherwise, the only thing you could do is only play one game at a time and only keep one book active. Got a guildie that needs help in Factions? Oh, no thanks, I only want to use my NF book right now. Limiting game play options/content in a game that already has fairly limited content for an MMO isn't a good idea.
And Sayne Hawke, just because you only need to carry around 1 book at a time while doing the mission, you still need to put those books somewhere (ie storage). Otherwise, the only thing you could do is only play one game at a time and only keep one book active. Got a guildie that needs help in Factions? Oh, no thanks, I only want to use my NF book right now. Limiting game play options/content in a game that already has fairly limited content for an MMO isn't a good idea.
Bristlebane
Exactly.. if you only play solo or with a few friends doing things together, then there's no problem. But if you're in a guild with many members, you *will end up with a whole lot of books even though you only need to bring one at a time. Either that, or say "no thanks" or simply ignore the book.. but then what was the point of creating them in the first place?
I don't care how they solve it, but I do hope they find a solution. Either..
- A Compilation (A book of books, each book covering a few pages)
- Book bag (ie. like Incubator bag only storing books)
- Storyteller NPCs remembering your progress without the need for books.
I don't care how they solve it, but I do hope they find a solution. Either..
- A Compilation (A book of books, each book covering a few pages)
- Book bag (ie. like Incubator bag only storing books)
- Storyteller NPCs remembering your progress without the need for books.
MithranArkanere
If you don't need to carry them to complete them, why do you need to store them until you complete them?
Just fill them by paying the NPC before giving them.
Just fill them by paying the NPC before giving them.
Bristlebane
Doesn't work that way Mithran.
Try it, do a few missions and then talk to the NPC. He won't give you any offer to fill in any missing pages. Only EOTN books do that, and only one time I belive.
Try it, do a few missions and then talk to the NPC. He won't give you any offer to fill in any missing pages. Only EOTN books do that, and only one time I belive.
MithranArkanere
They make that anytime.
If the Campaign books don't do that, they should.
If the Campaign books don't do that, they should.
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by Bristlebane
Well I already explained that in the first post, but I will quote myself on this:
So if you turn in the rewards for Hard Mode dungeons, only the hard mode-related pages are reset just like a new book, while rest of the pages remain unchanged. That is.. The book is never lost, only selected pages in it. |
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Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
Not merge. Just create an incubator-like item that holds books instead.
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Originally Posted by pamelf
We need book storage.
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Of course, I'd rather have extra whatever tabs like the 4 I already have.
I find it funny how people managed with just 1 tab (even before material storage) but now people are having full storages with 3 times the pace and the material storage.
Also funny how there are 4 threads on this. Merge please.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Fact still stands that books cannot contain more then 18 "pages."
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There are way more the 18 bytes of data that can be stored per invintory slot, since if you think about it, weapons and armor that take up 1 slot have just as many (if not more) permutations as a book. An helm for instance has to store a) what type of helm it is b) what color it is (which can be a combination of 4 different colors) c) what rune d) what insignia e) infused or not f) the name of who it is customized to. That's just as much data as page 1 - yes, page 2 - no, etc.
Bristlebane
From a programming standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense they would pick the number 18 as a limit. 250 for stack size I can belive because it's a nice round number close to 255, or 8 bit number. Besides, if there was a limit to max 18 "pages" as you say, it's simply in the software and the data. For a programmer, that's easy to expand, I could do it in my sleep and I can't create a massive game like GW. So surely Anet programmers could do that as well.
NeHoMaR
I created a thread suggesting a "container" for the books in one inventory slot; This thread suggests to merge them in one, I think the "container" is a lot better because you could still have the books individually if you want.
Maybe they are planning to sell inventory slots. /end sacasm
Yes, making this part of interface is very possible indeed. No books at all in your inventory, thats another valid suggestion.
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Originally Posted by Siniminister
Why they find the need for us to hold books in our inventory is beyond me. Just make it part of the GW interface.
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Yes, making this part of interface is very possible indeed. No books at all in your inventory, thats another valid suggestion.
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
I still don't see where that wild speculation is coming from. Supposedly it is some sort of limit to the amount of data stored per book, but that's just... incorrect. Its just dumb speculation by people who think they know how computer programing works, but don't.
There are way more the 18 bytes of data that can be stored per invintory slot, since if you think about it, weapons and armor that take up 1 slot have just as many (if not more) permutations as a book. An helm for instance has to store a) what type of helm it is b) what color it is (which can be a combination of 4 different colors) c) what rune d) what insignia e) infused or not f) the name of who it is customized to. That's just as much data as page 1 - yes, page 2 - no, etc. |
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Originally Posted by Bristlebane
From a programming standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense they would pick the number 18 as a limit. 250 for stack size I can belive because it's a nice round number close to 255, or 8 bit number. Besides, if there was a limit to max 18 "pages" as you say, it's simply in the software and the data. For a programmer, that's easy to expand, I could do it in my sleep and I can't create a massive game like GW. So surely Anet programmers could do that as well.
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Originally Posted by Linsey Talk Page
Books can hold 18 items or pages. That isn't a limit we have the option to change (I already asked). - Linsey talk 17:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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Sure 18 pages isn't the max that it can hold if they were to rework the system, but currently 18 items is the max, just as 250 items is the max for a stack instead of 255(or somewhere around there) - which I recall being said to be the stack max that GW was originally programed with, which was rounded down for a more even number - or having it at 999 items.
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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
I created a thread suggesting a "container" for the books in one inventory slot; This thread suggests to merge them in one, I think the "container" is a lot better because you could still have the books individually if you want.
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NeHoMaR
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
As I said, the containers are the same type of item as the books. As stated by Linsey, even in what I quoted above. And as someone else pointed out in the update thread, the books are variable items and (this part is uncertain - but I believe this to be true) that variable items cannot hold variable items.
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gerlin
I second the notion of increasing bag size. Maybe make it cost A LOT OF MONEH to balance it.
NecroticChanter
Give us WoW-sized Inventory!!
Miss Puddles
why not just have this compliation book have one book's worth of entries on each page?
does anyone REALLY need to have the sub-pages where it talks about the lore/dungeon/mission you have done 100 times?
condense it all down to a list.
does anyone REALLY need to have the sub-pages where it talks about the lore/dungeon/mission you have done 100 times?
condense it all down to a list.
NeHoMaR
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Originally Posted by NecroticChanter
Give us WoW-sized Inventory!!
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What about make this thing 10 slots? I will pay 50k for it, or make a hard quest.
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
What about just adding more inventory slots? this "IMPOSSIBLE" problems are soooo easy to fix.
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Originally Posted by Miss Puddles
why not just have this compliation book have one book's worth of entries on each page?
does anyone REALLY need to have the sub-pages where it talks about the lore/dungeon/mission you have done 100 times? condense it all down to a list. |
And some people do want to read the journals - at least just once. I for one do, and I am sure that there are many people of the Lore Community that would like to see if there is something that is mentioned in there that is "new" to be mentioned (i.e., something not noticed in the mission or not in the mission at all).