This update granted retroactive faction bonuses to the Kurzick and Luxon titles. When you log in with a new character that character's total bonus is calculated and added to BOTH titles. Unfortunately, when you cash out faction you lose ALL of the opposing faction. So, you will always lose one-half of the bonus faction.
What I want to know is this: Is this intended in this particular case?
If it was an oversight, say so and I won't log in with the other characters. If not, fine, it's bonus faction either way. I just don't want to waste it if at all possible. Is there any official Anet response?
Thanks
Retroactive Faction Bonus Question
Carinae
xarchitect
Just be glad you realized this before you logged into all of your characters to get the wisdom/ treasure hunter titles updated. You lose lots of faction on both sides that way
byteme!
It's always been that way from what I can recall. I don't see why it would be any different in "this" case. As far as I am concerned this is free faction so technically it's not a waste.
Windf0rce
Yeah I was wondering about it, but I just went ahead and cashed in all faction of one side, losing another. Just a bonus, don't see it as a loss anyway.
Xx Da Best Xx
I lost 35k kurz faction. I HAD to cash it because for some stupid reason, it wouldnt let me cash my kurz faction. Im guessing because i had more Lux faction than kurz. Idk if THAT was intended or not either, as I dont remember it working like that.
Thor Tyr
it has always been this way when u donate faction u lose what ever u had on the other side no reason this should be diff now
lilraceangel3
It kinda sucks knowing that as soon as I donate my lux, all my kurz will be gone!
Oh well easy come, easy go!
Oh well easy come, easy go!
Nessar
Always been this way, I dont see a problem. Dump faction into one thing and farm/ab/book the rest
nkuvu
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Originally Posted by byteme!
It's always been that way from what I can recall. I don't see why it would be any different in "this" case. As far as I am concerned this is free faction so technically it's not a waste.
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So before, what most people would do would be to gain their Kurzick faction, turn it in, then gain their Luxon faction (or vice versa, of course). Doing the quests/missions/pvp/whatever for only one side so that you don't actually waste faction for the other side.
Phineas
Enough of the "it's always been this way."
If I choose to raise my Kurz rank I don't go doing Luxon things, that would be a waste of faction. I'd consider doing Luxon quests/challenges only once I'd cleared my Kurz account.
My opinion is that any sane player would work along the same lines, and I see the fact that I have 'earnt' this extra faction as a welcome bonus but it is a waste.
Short version: ^ What she said.
If I choose to raise my Kurz rank I don't go doing Luxon things, that would be a waste of faction. I'd consider doing Luxon quests/challenges only once I'd cleared my Kurz account.
My opinion is that any sane player would work along the same lines, and I see the fact that I have 'earnt' this extra faction as a welcome bonus but it is a waste.
Short version: ^ What she said.
byteme!
Look at this way. Anet didn't have to do any of the updates the way they did. The fact that they took this route and we the players have benefited from said faction today should be taken as a godsend. Where was this concern 10 hours/1week/6months/2years ago before we got the faction update? Why rant about it now? It could be alot worse you know.
HawkofStorms
I'll say what I said in the main thread.
You logged on today and got a ton of faction for free. Don't be mad because you suddenly didn't get twice as much faction when half of it had to be lost.
You logged on today and got a ton of faction for free. Don't be mad because you suddenly didn't get twice as much faction when half of it had to be lost.
cosyfiep
uhm, when I turned in my kurzick and luxon factions (had 16 characters who have finished factions)...I didnt loose ALL of the other faction....only the same amount from each. so if you had say 9k luxon and 11k kurzick and turned in 9k of the luxon you would still have some kurzick left (or at least I did...I had more luxon faction even though I have been doing kurzick stuff all week)....after my last character turned in all of the kurzick faction I had gotten I STILL had luxon (which I turned in for a skill and some jade)....getting me back to 0 for both.
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
This update granted retroactive faction bonuses to the Kurzick and Luxon titles. When you log in with a new character that character's total bonus is calculated and added to BOTH titles. Unfortunately, when you cash out faction you lose ALL of the opposing faction. So, you will always lose one-half of the bonus faction.
What I want to know is this: Is this intended in this particular case? If it was an oversight, say so and I won't log in with the other characters. If not, fine, it's bonus faction either way. I just don't want to waste it if at all possible. Is there any official Anet response? Thanks |
He's not even complaining he is asking a simple question if this is an over sight or intended so he doesn't log into his other characters before kidding rid of one of the factions.
Don't alway jump to conslusions thinking someone is ranting/complaining about something.
Read ffs and if you don't get it ask.
Tarzan Yamada
Hmm. I think I will wait it out, just incase Anet decides to allow us to transfer the faction with no loss.
Delver
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Originally Posted by Xx Da Best Xx
I lost 35k kurz faction. I HAD to cash it because for some stupid reason, it wouldnt let me cash my kurz faction. Im guessing because i had more Lux faction than kurz. Idk if THAT was intended or not either, as I dont remember it working like that.
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fenix
It's always been like this, where you lose the other faction because of donating it to one.
I just sucked it up and donated my Kurzick.
I just sucked it up and donated my Kurzick.
ShadowbaneX
I had that problem as well. Thing is I had a higher Kurzick cap then Luxon, so I just logged on with another character which maxed out the Luxon, but moved my Kurzick higher, then cashed that in.
It happened again so I just cashed in some quests I had saved up, and that gave me more again.
It happened again so I just cashed in some quests I had saved up, and that gave me more again.
Burst Cancel
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Originally Posted by fenix
It's always been like this, where you lose the other faction because of donating it to one.
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We all know you lose faction from the other side whenever you cash in. The problem is that the retroactive function was given on both sides simultaneously, so you're guaranteed to waste part of it. Had we earned it normally, only the masochistic or idiotic would have accrued faction from both sides at the same time.
I honestly don't see what is so amazingly hard to understand here. And again, the OP wants to know if it was intentional, or if there will be a fix, so he/she can avoid logging characters. If it was intentional, no problem.
kazjun
Donated my way to the next kurz rank. I got free lux faction? lol
Kook~NBK~
It may very well have been an oversight. But it may have been something they were aware of, but couldn't find a solution for. Either way, I wouldn't hold my breath on it being remedied any time soon, if ever.
I figured that I'd have exactly the same amount of luxon faction I had before the update as I would after donating the FREE Kurzick faction they gave me - NONE!
I figured that I'd have exactly the same amount of luxon faction I had before the update as I would after donating the FREE Kurzick faction they gave me - NONE!
cellardweller
I don't hold much hope that they'll fix it, especially seeing there as many people would already have donated and lost their opposing faction. Still it would be nice to have an official "We're leaving it as is" because I'm sure there will be scores of people that don't log in at all this weekend or play with only non factions characters, just in case.
impression
Hi,
A final word from ANet about this would be greatly appreciated, especially since the Luxon faction (Iam kurzic) I got its enough to put me over rank 1. It will be a big waste especially now that amber its worth something.
And I know that's is difficult to fix this now but, the faction should have been awarded in turn from the start by talking to a npc or something like that to make things fair.
Thanks.
A final word from ANet about this would be greatly appreciated, especially since the Luxon faction (Iam kurzic) I got its enough to put me over rank 1
. It will be a big waste especially now that amber its worth something.And I know that's is difficult to fix this now but, the faction should have been awarded in turn from the start by talking to a npc or something like that to make things fair.
Thanks.
Evil Neato
Turned in 30k kurz; consequently lost 30k lux. And I'm not too happy about it.
Shadowhaze
Like others have said, they probably just left it as is - donate to one, lose it in the other.
It is a bummer though. Had 50k+ faction in each across all my chars. Donated and lost faction in the other. Could have helped get a bit further in the other rank too. It is too bad they didn't have some npc you could talk to about it, thus saving a lot of wasted faction (Like others, I only work on one side at a time. Silly to do both then lose one side). But can't change it now, so we have to be happy with what we got.
It is a bummer though. Had 50k+ faction in each across all my chars. Donated and lost faction in the other. Could have helped get a bit further in the other rank too. It is too bad they didn't have some npc you could talk to about it, thus saving a lot of wasted faction (Like others, I only work on one side at a time. Silly to do both then lose one side). But can't change it now, so we have to be happy with what we got.
Delver
My problem isn't exactly faction loss. It's inability to use a guild hall npc due to just logging on. It's just a minor annoyance anyway but it meant you had to do a little work for no reason other than logging on.
M Sterling
Still waiting on a response from Anet on this.
When playing through Factions, I only earned Luxon or Kurzick exclusively to avoid losing faction when turning them in. I don't like losing faction, free or otherwise.
Though I do believe this may have been intentional - to avoid damaging the so-called "economy" from people turning in lots and lots of (free/instantaneous) faction for jadeite/amber or something else.
When playing through Factions, I only earned Luxon or Kurzick exclusively to avoid losing faction when turning them in. I don't like losing faction, free or otherwise.
Though I do believe this may have been intentional - to avoid damaging the so-called "economy" from people turning in lots and lots of (free/instantaneous) faction for jadeite/amber or something else.
Shemsu Anpw
Yeah if you have one faction higher then the other you are "aligned" to that side and you can not spend the other faction. Just balance it out and trade in your free faction.
Not sure why people are getting all bent out of shape for. It is free faction I don't see the problem with losing it when trading it in. I agree it is annoying getting slightly more luxon then kurzick if you are kurzick aligned. It's free Nuff Said.
Not sure why people are getting all bent out of shape for. It is free faction I don't see the problem with losing it when trading it in. I agree it is annoying getting slightly more luxon then kurzick if you are kurzick aligned. It's free Nuff Said.
Necrokitty
Glad you posted this. I've had to keep reminding myself not to log into the game because of this. If it is to be corrected (as it should be), I'd like to wait until then to not screw it up.
The people who keep saying "it's free faction, get over it" are annoying to me. It's not free. It's faction that we have worked for, having previously done these tasks that now give faction rewards. The fact that we did them weeks/months/years ago, doesn't mean we should be entitled to only half the reward that someone would get next Tuesday for doing the exact same things.
The people who keep saying "it's free faction, get over it" are annoying to me. It's not free. It's faction that we have worked for, having previously done these tasks that now give faction rewards. The fact that we did them weeks/months/years ago, doesn't mean we should be entitled to only half the reward that someone would get next Tuesday for doing the exact same things.
byteme!
shoot sry guys i posted in wrong thread =S
fenix
What I don't understand is this;
If you want to keep both your Kurzick and Luxon faction FREEBIES, then clearly you want to boost both titles. Here's my question. Since Factions came out, when you cash in one, you lose the other, so WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BOOST BOTH TITLES AT ONCE. Everyone knows that if you want to rank up, you do them ONE AT A TIME.
Stop bitching (yes, you're all bitching) about something that has always existed, and in this case is FREE. If you're that desperate to get both points, why the hell are you trying to rank up with both at the same time. And before someone saying "oh but I just wanted the points for both" you all KNEW that cashing in one would remove the other.
Shut the hell up everyone. Your tears over such a minimal issue is turning guru into a failfest of shitters.
If you want to keep both your Kurzick and Luxon faction FREEBIES, then clearly you want to boost both titles. Here's my question. Since Factions came out, when you cash in one, you lose the other, so WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BOOST BOTH TITLES AT ONCE. Everyone knows that if you want to rank up, you do them ONE AT A TIME.
Stop bitching (yes, you're all bitching) about something that has always existed, and in this case is FREE. If you're that desperate to get both points, why the hell are you trying to rank up with both at the same time. And before someone saying "oh but I just wanted the points for both" you all KNEW that cashing in one would remove the other.
Shut the hell up everyone. Your tears over such a minimal issue is turning guru into a failfest of shitters.
Winterclaw
So everyone is complaining about all the free faction they lost instead of being happy they gained some instead of nothing?
Necrokitty
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Since Factions came out, when you cash in one, you lose the other, so WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BOOST BOTH TITLES AT ONCE. Everyone knows that if you want to rank up, you do them ONE AT A TIME.
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Glad you agree with us.
Dusk_
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Originally Posted by fenix
What I don't understand is this;
If you want to keep both your Kurzick and Luxon faction FREEBIES, then clearly you want to boost both titles. Here's my question. Since Factions came out, when you cash in one, you lose the other, so WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BOOST BOTH TITLES AT ONCE. Everyone knows that if you want to rank up, you do them ONE AT A TIME. Stop bitching (yes, you're all bitching) about something that has always existed, and in this case is FREE. If you're that desperate to get both points, why the hell are you trying to rank up with both at the same time. And before someone saying "oh but I just wanted the points for both" you all KNEW that cashing in one would remove the other. Shut the hell up everyone. Your tears over such a minimal issue is turning guru into a failfest of shitters. |
The Little Viking
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Originally Posted by Xx Da Best Xx
I lost 35k kurz faction. I HAD to cash it because for some stupid reason, it wouldnt let me cash my kurz faction. Im guessing because i had more Lux faction than kurz. Idk if THAT was intended or not either, as I dont remember it working like that.
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Whisper Evenstar
Although I appreciate the fact that Anet made the changes they did and gave us credit for past accomplishments, I am very disappointed at the implementation on a single point:
1) As I play through the game earning faction I always turn in whatever I get before switching sides so I never WASTE any. The way they implemented this credit for past work, I was forced to waste over 130k faction (in my case, I went all Luxon and chose to waste my Kurzick). What a major bummer
1) As I play through the game earning faction I always turn in whatever I get before switching sides so I never WASTE any. The way they implemented this credit for past work, I was forced to waste over 130k faction (in my case, I went all Luxon and chose to waste my Kurzick). What a major bummer
Anduin
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Originally Posted by fenix
What I don't understand is this;
If you want to keep both your Kurzick and Luxon faction FREEBIES, then clearly you want to boost both titles. Here's my question. Since Factions came out, when you cash in one, you lose the other, so WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BOOST BOTH TITLES AT ONCE. Everyone knows that if you want to rank up, you do them ONE AT A TIME. Stop bitching (yes, you're all bitching) about something that has always existed, and in this case is FREE. If you're that desperate to get both points, why the hell are you trying to rank up with both at the same time. And before someone saying "oh but I just wanted the points for both" you all KNEW that cashing in one would remove the other. Shut the hell up everyone. Your tears over such a minimal issue is turning guru into a failfest of shitters. |
upier
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Seems to me that you are the only one bitching in here, douchebag.
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You go girl!