Hero setup

HM people got super awesome armor values eles wont be as cool as discord

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869


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as igor said, run a MM, a monk with [word of healing] or [ healer's boon] and a curse necro with what igor said, you can use [defile defenses] instead of [rigor mortis] if you dont like to micro manage. the reason that discord and sabway works so well is because they are capable of dealing a large amount of damage despite the hardened armor in HM, thats why eles fail in HM, the damage they do is reduced greatly.

Umm Igor, racway works fine with warriors/sins. Basically the players job is to keep up save urselves, paragon just does it the best. The rest of the bar is tntf, and other skills devoted to fueling SY. A warrior or sin can do it just fine.

a build which might work well is one which uses [mind blast] and [glyph of lesser energy]/[glowing gaze] for e-management and spells like [rodgort's invocation] [fireball]+[mark of rodgort] [liquid flame] to deal damage.

are skills like [Savannah heat] and [searing heat] useful in pve?

Ive vanquished 11 area's with 3 KD warriors. Mainpart of the build:
Earth shaker, I think you can add the rest yourself. Worked real well, foes weren't getting up anymore xD

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With my assassin I use this setup:

[Spiteful Spirit][Reckless Haste][Barbs][Enfeebling Blood][Rip Enchantment][Splinter Weapon][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet]

[Ether Renewal][Aura Of Restoration][Zealot's Fire][Draw Conditions][Protective Spirit][Smite Hex][Strength Of Honor][Mending Touch]

[Reaper's Mark][Signet Of Sorrow][Weapon Of Warding][Spirit Transfer][Spirit Light][Life][Signet Of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet]

With Strength of Honour and Splinter Weapon on myself and Barbs being thrown around the enemies don't last long. Obviously, staying alive isnt a problem, the N/Rt does a good job backed up by the smite/prot hybrid.

The ether renewal dude keeps pesky conditions off my back whilst doing damage to surrounding enemies every time he does so.

so im thinking 3x Tease mesmers with some sort of armor ignoring secondary nuke

SF spammers pawns in NM, in HM I recommend Sabway or Discordway

If your worried about the fun being taken out of the game by sabway, do discordway.

for discordway to be effective, u need to call every single target for the heros to wtfarmorignoringpwnage it all at once.

and for more "fun" dont give the heros much hexes or conditions, so its all on you.

oughta keep u on your toes when u encounter HM monks or bosses.

if constantly yelling at your heros and seeing things go poof one by one (and summoning an army of ebon vanguard sins if ur using AP ) isnt enough fun for you, you can try what i did for a long time.

WoH Monk

BHA R/P (with Stand Your Ground, Fall Back, GFtE... | EDA/Volly Ranger (Blind or Daze, up to you)

Jagged Bones MM Bomber

those 3 heros can effectively keep you and the team alive and rolling through alot of madness, however it lacks in dmg. so calling targets for ur ranger to shutdown, and dealing the main dmg, is up to you.

those 3 heros arnt the most effective, but if want to have fun, and not be so worried about completion times, and just dish out dmg knowing they will take care of your health (being a sin or a war i know that will be fun) i highly suggest it.

personally, i play ele, with the latter 3 heros i played Ether Renewal Air Spiker, and now with discord i play AP with the fun fun pve skills (and [augury of death][iron palm][dash] oh its so fun -jump in, b---- slap, run away, lol-). might not be the most effective, but hell its fun.

If you want to do it the hard way use 7 henches, no heroes, like we did in the forgotten age before Nightfall. Otherwise if you want to kill everything yourself just use 3 monk heroes and nothing else.