I'm Kurzick. It used to be HFFF, but obviously that's been nerfed so...
What's the fastest method of faction gain? I know vanquishing has been one of them this weekend because of the double weekend and all that, but ignoring the effects of that is it still going to be to vanquish areas?
Or maybe it's a Shiro HM book or something?
Was just wondering what'd be the fastest way to max my Kurz title from 8 Mil to 10.
What's now the best faction gain method?
Shiing!
Dre
jade quarry or missions (on HM), i think
duckboy
Amatz Basin
all u need is 3 assassins with perma shadow form and the rest is simply waiting for the faction to roll in. i got bout 10k faction each time and roughly takes bout 13mins.
if u go to amatz basin challenge mission u'll find plenty of people doing it to show u the ropes :-)
all u need is 3 assassins with perma shadow form and the rest is simply waiting for the faction to roll in. i got bout 10k faction each time and roughly takes bout 13mins.
if u go to amatz basin challenge mission u'll find plenty of people doing it to show u the ropes :-)
cellardweller
arborstone boss runs - 20k/hr for h/h and reportedly almost double for the 2 person version.
Edit: Sadly the bounty double update only upped the faction for standard kills, not the boss kills so this is now sitting at a lonely 12-15k/hr
Edit: Sadly the bounty double update only upped the faction for standard kills, not the boss kills so this is now sitting at a lonely 12-15k/hr
viper11025
I guess time will tell for this.
I'd like to know, because I might start setting up teams myself.
XD
I'd like to know, because I might start setting up teams myself.
XD
Arduin
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Amatz Basin
all u need is 3 assassins with perma shadow form and the rest is simply waiting for the faction to roll in. i got bout 10k faction each time and roughly takes bout 13mins. if u go to amatz basin challenge mission u'll find plenty of people doing it to show u the ropes :-) |
Or was the faction doubled because of the weekend?
SmokingHotImolation
Ferndale VQ brings in 20k+ in ~30 mins.
Sjeng
Well, at least Amatz Basin is slightly more fun than HFFF. Hopefully anet won't decide this isn't what they wanted, and nerf SF, because that would be pretty lame imo.
I'm sure going to try this asap.
I'm sure going to try this asap.
Sixteen
Amatz = win.
Kook~NBK~
Amatz = BOOOORRRRINNNGGGGG!
(but yeah, it's an easy faction farm)
(but yeah, it's an easy faction farm)
Shakkara
I'm doing it for the luxon side as I already got kurzick, but the challenge missions do not give anything like Amatz does, what is the best way to do this for luxon?
namhvo
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I'm doing it for the luxon side as I already got kurzick, but the challenge missions do not give anything like Amatz does, what is the best way to do this for luxon?
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Shasgaliel
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Originally Posted by SmokingHotImolation
Ferndale VQ brings in 20k+ in ~30 mins.
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I got 30k luxon from vanquishing Rheas crater which took around 40 min. I heard that vq maishang hills gives on average more luxon points per hour.
poppu16
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Originally Posted by Shasgaliel
I got 40k kurzick out of Ferndale in 1 hour (doing both quests there as well) For me it is so far the fastest way to get Kurzick. I am not the fastest in doing vq so probably even with doing both quests times below 45 min are probable.
I got 30k luxon from vanquishing Rheas crater which took around 40 min. I heard that vq maishang hills gives on average more luxon points per hour. |
Ate of DK
Vanquishing is very rewarding.
poppu16
He was quoting people saying they where wrong. just to clarify things
Shasgaliel
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Hummm.... Week End Event .....
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Anyway I am quite sure I did rheas crater on Thursday...
poppu16
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I thought weekend event was double gold and experience not the faction?
Anyway I am quite sure I did rheas crater on Thursday... |
too bad i wasn't able to log :/
Damian979
I vanq every kurz area this weekend and Morostav Trail was the most faction for the shortest amount of time for me.
Kashrlyyk
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I thought weekend event was double gold and experience not the faction?
Anyway I am quite sure I did rheas crater on Thursday... |
TheJokersWild
One major issue regarding HFF was always that the automated nature of it made it very VERY Bot-able.
Amatz, if run by 3 permas and 5 leechers, though a gimmick, is still all real people. I'd imagine the Sins charge the leechers? So everyone needs to be semi active. I can't see it getting nerfed.
Amatz, if run by 3 permas and 5 leechers, though a gimmick, is still all real people. I'd imagine the Sins charge the leechers? So everyone needs to be semi active. I can't see it getting nerfed.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by TheJokersWild
One major issue regarding HFF was always that the automated nature of it made it very VERY Bot-able.
Amatz, if run by 3 permas and 5 leechers, though a gimmick, is still all real people. I'd imagine the Sins charge the leechers? So everyone needs to be semi active. I can't see it getting nerfed. |
You can make sin hero maintain SF easily. You don't even need specialized bot software. Flags + Mouse-click macro.
therangereminem
FOR KUR pople these are the numbers you get
urgoz between 10k to 15k
vanquishing 20k to 30k Morostav Trail bieng the better of any 28k faction inabut 25 min
then you have basin about 10k every 15 min
the you have shiros book take bwteen 6 to 8hours to do hm you get 120k
thenyou have the noob island book take bout 4 hours to do gives 90k points
so the fastest way is Morostav Trail vanquishing
far easyest would be basin in alotof poeples eyes in mine it is Morostav Trail vanquishing
urgoz between 10k to 15k
vanquishing 20k to 30k Morostav Trail bieng the better of any 28k faction inabut 25 min
then you have basin about 10k every 15 min
the you have shiros book take bwteen 6 to 8hours to do hm you get 120k
thenyou have the noob island book take bout 4 hours to do gives 90k points
so the fastest way is Morostav Trail vanquishing
far easyest would be basin in alotof poeples eyes in mine it is Morostav Trail vanquishing
therangereminem
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It is double factions too.
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how it work its you get40points per kill and then you get 50points for toal of monsetrs killed
so if a area has 209 foes 9 of them being bosses
you will get 250 times 9=2250
then you willget 200 times 40=8000 foir allkills not bosses
then you take 209 times 50=10450 for all foes and vanquishing bonus
so total number is 20700
this number is not a part of the weekend event at all if they would do double faction forlux/kur weekend then you would get at least 40k for vanquishing
a weekend liek that would be worth it liek a double kur/lux weekend again liek we had a month ago that everyone hfff'd allweekend
joshuarodger
i think you all may have to redo your thinking on what's fastest faction farm after the weekend. everyone got double faction for vanquishing this weekend. it won't be the same amount of points on Monday as it was on Sunday.
BTW: this thread is not about balance and imbalance with regards to shadow form and imbagons.
BTW: this thread is not about balance and imbalance with regards to shadow form and imbagons.
godsie
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this is a false statment
how it work its you get40points per kill and then you get 50points for toal of monsetrs killed |
I think that the blessing of Kurzicks only gives +20 per foe killed excluding bosses in HM not +40 so the amount of faction is less than that
zelgadissan
Man, I could have sworn I clicked on a thread about gaining faction quickly.
My bad.
Now that the weekend event is over I'd guess Ferndale vanquishing.
My bad.
Now that the weekend event is over I'd guess Ferndale vanquishing.
Smurf Minions
The fastest is boreas seabed for the luxons, takes 25 minutes for around 15k faction. The fastest (vanquish) in kurzick in drazach thicket, its about the same as boreas seabed. The only thing that seems to be faster is amatz basin which is like ~10k faction more per hour.
Arkantos
This is a joke, right?
Twenty eight deleted posts because you people clearly do not understand what the topic of this thread is. Enough whining about SF/SY crap, this thread is about faction.
Twenty eight deleted posts because you people clearly do not understand what the topic of this thread is. Enough whining about SF/SY crap, this thread is about faction.
Akolo
do deep in 20 mins over and over again
/win
/win
Chieftain Heavyhand
There was a Warden 55 Monk or SS Necro farm that could net quit a few factions now. Doubt it is as fast as some of the other methods posted but a good way to build up golds if the area drops haven't been nerfed.
Kook~NBK~
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this is a false statment
how it work its you get40points per kill and then you get 50points for toal of monsetrs killed |
The Meth
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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
You're mistaken. Normally, in HM, it's 20 points per kill plus a bonus 50 points per kill once vanquished. This past weekend, the bonus was 100 PPK. Bosses give an additional 250 faction once a certian amount of kills has been reached.
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Smurf Minions
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This is correct. The weekend was awesome, some friends of mine probably got 1/2 million each towards the title by vanquishing the hell out of places.
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And as for the Basin farm, it isn't that fast. It takes time to get a group (unless playing with guildy's), failure is pouring a lot faction down to the drain. I guess its about the same faction gain as vanquishing drazach thicket.
MMSDome
Urgoz is still a pretty good method because you pull in a decent amount of faction per person and if you have 10 people (generally some positions are better played by heros imo) the faction builds up and you have a big spike in faction for your guild.
Hyper.nl
My vote would go to Aspenwood and Jade Quarry.
Maybe not the fastest, but the rewards are good now and it's much more fun than those farming or FFF runs.
Maybe not the fastest, but the rewards are good now and it's much more fun than those farming or FFF runs.
Shadowfox1125
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Originally Posted by TheJokersWild
One major issue regarding HFF was always that the automated nature of it made it very VERY Bot-able.
Amatz, if run by 3 permas and 5 leechers, though a gimmick, is still all real people. I'd imagine the Sins charge the leechers? So everyone needs to be semi active. I can't see it getting nerfed. |
legacyofkain85
Imo, i could be wrong tho,the fastest way(grind, boring, Argh) is the amatz basin challenge mission,basicly what u need is 1 assassin ,2 assassin heroes
and to run the perma sf build,then bind your hero skills and yours to the numpad so for ex:when u press 1,4,7 it activates[deadly paradox],2,5,8 activates[glyph of swiftness],3,6,9 activates[shadow form].All u have to do is go to your position and start renewing shadow form till the time expires
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9011/gw232rv8.jpg
i gained around 10k faction after that run in 21 minutes ,take note this is a mindless and boring way of gaining faction.
Other form of gaining faction that imo is quite fast is vanquishing and can be done with no cons and in averege times of 1 hour,1:30h depending on your level on experience and skill,and if go with people or using hero/henchman.Problem with vanquishing is that it gets tedious after a while, its fun to do all echovald forest once ,twice on 1 char but it gets boring after that.If u get help form guildies and employ pve only skills,cons and such u can achieve really fast times for example i had a 30 minutes clear on eternal groove with a physical heavy team.
Other way to be considered are the story books but i found them inferior to vanquishing or hffing in amatz ,reason being :u need all 13 misions in hm in Cantha for 120k faction points reward towards title(note that its points not faction and it will go directly to your title) so that it may take up a good couple of hours,while vanquishing 2,3 areas can already net u 60k+which doubled trough donation is 120k.Therefore imo storybooks are inferior.
and to run the perma sf build,then bind your hero skills and yours to the numpad so for ex:when u press 1,4,7 it activates[deadly paradox],2,5,8 activates[glyph of swiftness],3,6,9 activates[shadow form].All u have to do is go to your position and start renewing shadow form till the time expires
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9011/gw232rv8.jpg
i gained around 10k faction after that run in 21 minutes ,take note this is a mindless and boring way of gaining faction.
Other form of gaining faction that imo is quite fast is vanquishing and can be done with no cons and in averege times of 1 hour,1:30h depending on your level on experience and skill,and if go with people or using hero/henchman.Problem with vanquishing is that it gets tedious after a while, its fun to do all echovald forest once ,twice on 1 char but it gets boring after that.If u get help form guildies and employ pve only skills,cons and such u can achieve really fast times for example i had a 30 minutes clear on eternal groove with a physical heavy team.
Other way to be considered are the story books but i found them inferior to vanquishing or hffing in amatz ,reason being :u need all 13 misions in hm in Cantha for 120k faction points reward towards title(note that its points not faction and it will go directly to your title) so that it may take up a good couple of hours,while vanquishing 2,3 areas can already net u 60k+which doubled trough donation is 120k.Therefore imo storybooks are inferior.
Issac
Fort Aspenwood lol. Only if you expect to win each round.
Fay Vert
Fort Aspenwood might be good if they put more servers on it so you can play the damned thing.
No opposing party my ass.
No opposing party my ass.