a list of kur/lux points for vanquishing

those who are looking for estimated numbers for faction for kur/lux
here are the number you will be getting. The numbers are not 100% sence there estimates but, there close enough
please keep note this is for hard mode not nm your number will be 1/3 less

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kur areas
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Arborstone ; 338 foes 6 of them are bosses
foes=6760
end bonus=16900
total area=23660
time taken= ?

Drazach Thicket ; 225 foes 5 of them are bosses
foes=4500
end bonus=11250
total area=14000-15750
time taken= 40 to 50 min

Ferndale ; 247-262 foes 9 of them are bosses
foes=4940-5240
end bonus=12350-13100
total area=17290-18340
time taken= 30 -40 min

Melantimedru's Hope ; 178-203 foes 6 of them are bosses
foes=3560-4060
end bonus=8900-10150
total=12460-14210
time taken= 30 min to 40 min

Morostav Trail ; 297 foes 9 of them are bosses
foes=5940
end bonus=14850
total=20790
time taken= 35 to 40 min

Mourning Veil Falls ; 220 foes 9 of them are bosses
foes=4400
end bonus=11000
total=15400
time taken= 25 to 30min

The Eternal Grove ; 250 foes 8 of them are bosses
foes=5000
end bonus=12500
total=17500
time taken= 55min

Whole Echovald Forest ; 1755-1795 foes 52 of them are bosses
foes=35100-35900
end bonus=87750-89750
total=122850-125650
time taken=?

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lux areas
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Archipelagos' ; 175 foes 7 of them are bosses
foes=3500
end bonus=8750
total area=12250
time taken= ?

Boreas Seabed ; 216 foes 5 of them are bosses
foes=4320
end bonus=10800
total area=15120
time taken= 25-35min

Maishang Hills ; 185 foes 6 of them are bosses
foes=3700
end bonus=9250
total area=9700-12950
time taken= 30-40min

Mount Qinkai ; 130-190 foes 5 of them are bosses
foes=2600-3800
end bonus=6500-9500
total area=9100-13300
time taken= 25min

Gyala Hatchery ; 200 foes 8 of them are bosses
foes=4000
end bonus=10000
total area=14000
time taken= ?

Rhea's Crater ; 230-271 foes 8 of them are bosses
foes=4600-5420
end bonus=11500-13550
total area=16100-18970
time taken= 50 min to 60 min

Silent Surf ; 260 foes 9 of them are bosses
foes=5020
end bonus=13000
total area=18020
time taken= ?

Unwaking Waters ; 154 foes 5 of them are bosses
foes=3080
end bonus=7700
total area=10780
time taken= ?

Whole Jade Sea ; 1383-1484 foes 53 killed of them are bosses
foes=27660-29680
end bonus=69150-74200
total area=96810-103880
time taken=?
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if you come up with higher numbers please let me know so i can change them
along with foes totals and such

also i would like to put clears times so i can put a averge so just post your times please do not lie , and give false times or foes and such.give down to the min no seconds pelase

i hope this helps with poeple looking for the best way to earn faction so far. vanquishing is the way to go now!!!

****updates****
11/17.08 642 cst
- adjusted faction to show none weekend numbers
- removed boss numbers total area does not have any boss bonus added in
- added total area for jade sea and Echovald Forest
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Oooo nice list. Thanks man.

Also, I found ferndale about 30min-40min to vanq. (No cons btw)

Thicket took us 30-35 min. And I got 28k faction.

Foes only give 20 faction per kill, also bosses do give 20 faction+ boss bonus ( that goes up to 250)
Your number are a few K higher than reality because ur basing it on foes worth 40 faction each

Boreas Seabed takes between 24-29 mins to do and Mount Qinkai is normally around 25 mins so quite good for time to points ratio

Not only that but alot of the times people are giving sound like Conset times.
Which not everyone will be having.

Arborstone - 1 hour 1 minute, 338 foes total, no cons, and had to hunt down 2 groups.
Otherwise 54 minutes to clear

Unwaking waters 30 mins with h/h no cons

boreas 25-30 and drazach thicket 25-30 min, both no cons

Blimey. I need more practise. Melandrus Hope took me 1h 15 to clear. Drazach Thicket took me 1 h 20.

And i found a screen shot of melandrus hope. 167 monsters (managed to pull the rit boss without spawning the popups)

edit it to put total kurzick and luxon for entire region

i will be fixing numbers i went and tested faction amount out and it is 20 in hm not 40 perkill, also the boss bonus i have alwayed got 250 but i have never went stirght for a boss, i went out and tested this also by killing a boss only and it not 250 always , thanks for the imput

Morostav Trail, starting from Unwaking Waters.

Best case scenario: 30-40 minutes.
Cons up. Good team or 2 MM + 2 Discord.

Worst case scenario: 55 minutes.
No cons. Some bad builds, team gets wiped by "SunreachFalaharn & co".
Someone pops 5 healers after killing Arbor, no one follows target.

Nicest thing about starting from Unwaking are Luxon priests and merchants when the border is deep into Kurzick territory. They provide 8 additional kills. Downside: early aggro of Afflicted group near the exit. Which can result in players getting killed because they've either ran away down the regular path, either talking to the Priest or just being afk.

DVDF did a lot of these runs during the weekend and subsequently managed to secure ownership of Eredon once the border shifted. A joyous occasion, indeed.

If you're doing a list like this you might want to add a faction:time spent ratio for each area, that way farmers can make use of it.

For ferndale it is worth doing both quests there. Then you get +800 from quests + 40-50 foes to the total number of enemies.

That is a brilliant tip^ if your vanquishing then if you could doin all the faction quests would be useful

What about Pongmei Valley? Could be both kurz and lux depends on which side u start. Hoverever no extras for end bonus - only foes.

You should have this thread moved to the Farming section in a few days, when people have become aware of it and possibly have it stickied there. These numbers are going to be very useful to Faction farmers. Consider adding the Challenge Missions and Elite Missions to the list as well.

Wiki has a listing of the number of foes in each area for a Vanquish. In fact, due to pop ups, it is easily different for each person, plus you can include or not include charmable animals in that count. All you need to do is look at the numbers of monsters for a Vanquish already listed on either Wiki, then multiple those numbers by 20+50.

Area x has y-z foes.
Faction = y(20)+y(50) + boss bounties which may or may not be 250 each - z(20)+z(50) + boss bounty

Great thread! Keep it updated

Typo??

and if you multiply by 20+50, can't you just multiply by 70? I don't really get that formula you posted MagmaRed... y(20)+y(50) = y(70).

11/17: Eternal Grove H/H - 18,420 faction...5 locked chests...55 minutes

you can't just multiply by 70, there will always be some conflicts between monsters themselfs, decreasing the amount of 20 gain by like 20~30

If they could make a team specification for each area, then we would all see tons of amber and jade flowing or faction for alliances go through the roof......I still like how this can get people to help me VQ more, makes things so much faster if you got 5 people with pain inverter.

Ferndale - 1 hour, due to afk.

yeah this should be moved to farming,

updates planned
* show quests for each area to willincrease the monsters in each area
*about of faction gained with certian quests finished
note this gain willbe a one time only unless there repeatable quests
* finish the times i takes for each area
* ratio of time/faction earned


these update should be in by end of the week, i have ot have time finishing the areas myself and the research of quests in the area

11/18/08 - Melandru's Hope - 2 human + 6 heros - 14,000 faction...5 chests (5 broken lockpicks grr)...30 minutes

We did Eternal grove in like 35 minutes, no cons as far as I can remember.

Reha's Crater, done in ~50mn H/H several times during the double vanquish reward.

Drazhek Thicket H/H - 14,000 faction - 0 chests - 50 min (some afk)
Maishang Hills H/H - 9,700 faction - 1 chest - 40 min

My Kurzick Faction Summary:
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Morostav Trail HM
40 min - No cons
3 people, 5 heroes
No wipeouts
~ 23k faction + 1,495 Gold + 1,495 XP
293 enemies


Mourning Veil Falls HM
39 min - No cons
2 people, 6 heroes
No wipeouts
~ 17k faction + 1,065 Gold + 1,065 XP
~ 210 enemies


Melandrus Hope HM
39 min - No cons
3 people, 5 heroes
No wipeouts
~ 13k faction + 890 Gold + 890 XP
~175 enemies

Dazack Thicket HM
35 min - With celerity
8 people
No wipeouts
~ 28k faction + gold + xp (during double weekend)

Drazach Thicket 19 min - HM
5 people
full cons
~18k Faction

Melandrus Hope HM

1 Real (W/P)/3 Heroes (MM,Spirit Rit, Air spike Vekk)/3 Hench (2 healers and Mes) + 1 leecher (2nd account)

32-33 minutes
181 kills approx (make sure you kill tigers for extra points)
14k Faction (kills + 9150 bonus)
no cons====big waste of money for maybe a 1-2 minute speed up

If you control your Rit and drop spirits you should never wipe.

if anyone wants to see it or would like the builds I use feel free to pm me

ign Lord Dulizan

Silent Surf:
~18k
Best: 26 mins
Worst: 38 mins (with 2 wipes)

While I was reading the guide, this is what I was thinking.

But it's frequently getting updated so I'm going to bookmark this page. Thank you OP.

sweet, Thanks!