Survivor vs. Nightstalker

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Before I finish decking out my Sin's new armor, I'd like a general consensus on what would be better for a Moebius + DB build for HM: Survivor or Nightstalker insignias.

It sounds at first like Nightstalker's would be better for the armor boost, but I'm thinking that since I'll be using Critical Defenses for any countering any major melee assault and that armor ignoring damage will probably be an issue in a few areas, Survivor's would make a better choice.

MegaVolti

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2008

Me/Rt

Never ever Survivor's. Armor is reduced damage, reduced damage means your Monks have to heal less.
The only reason ever to get Survivor's is coordinated spikes in PvP. But these don't happen in PvE. And for those big one-hit bosses you got [[Protective Spirit] anyway.
Surviver suck in PvE, always.

As for the +armor to chose: I went with Blessed. As you said you are running an enchantment all the time anyway (no Assassins leaves without [[Critical Agility], right?). Better to have the +10 always up then having the +15 not up half the time (when kiting or moving between enemies).

ac1inferno

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

A/W

Nightstalker's only work when you are attacking. Survivor's always work.

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

nightslatkers would be your best bet, because with MB/DB you should be attacking most of the time anyway

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

I like survivor because more health means I get targeted less, and then I start spamming save urselves and entire damage gets reduced.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Either use Survivor, or use one of the specific damage type ones. Nightstalkers is a waste, especially in PvE when damage doesn't matter. Bring prot, and you can frenzy 24/7, so why you would ever want 50000 armor on a sin is beyond me.

tl;dr 640hp > all.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

The only thing I fear in PvE are large armor ignoring (boss) spikes. Survivor's for me.

Mayda

Mayda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Prague (GMT +1)

FTW

E/

Vanguard, Saboteur and so on give +10 only vs. physical, i used Blessed and was happy - not sure how the damage comparison between Blessed and Vanguard looks, but anyway, its 10 times cheaper:-P

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Blessed or radiant you mean !

You'll either be enchanted with shadow form or critical agility. If it's shadow form you won't be taking any damage so you're best of with radiant. If it's critical agility blessed would be best.

now, flame me :-)

Damian979

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

If you have sabway heroes spamming prot spirit then +armor becomes irrelevant 99.9% percent of the time anyway. All you need to worry about is armor ignoring life steals. Survivor.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Survivor methinks.

Kale Ironfist

Kale Ironfist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Game Update June 15, 2007
Added a cap of +25 to the armor buff when stacking skills. A single skill can still push the bonus over +25. Bonuses from shields, weapons, insignia, and inscriptions are not affected and still stack. Only skill effects are counted toward the cap.

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway

R/

Survivor's, always and for everyone.

You already have 95 armor anyways.

Stealth Bomberman

Stealth Bomberman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

if you're using [critical defense] which is wasted slot in pve imo, why bother with armor period. nightstalkers for me. if you can find a balance between high health and high armor, why lean towards one??

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Armor becomes completely irrevelant if you have protective spirit on you.
However Health will always matter, always.
regardless of build even in a 55 >.> the goal is 55 health =P.
So whats the point?
GO SURVIVOR!!!

Survivor and radiant are....the best.

Daedra Deinheart

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2008

GvG, TA, RA, and Cantha

Omg Have You Seen Gwens Mom [MILF]

E/

On my very first set of max armor I put 3 Survivors and 2 Nightstalkers. It worked fine and its more armor and more health. But now I use just Survivors.

-Daedra

Phantom Flux

Phantom Flux

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

New York City

Phantom Flux (FLUX)

A/

I find making chest and leggings nightstalker and the rest radiant. It gives a balance.