Survivor vs. Nightstalker
Shayne Hawke
Before I finish decking out my Sin's new armor, I'd like a general consensus on what would be better for a Moebius + DB build for HM: Survivor or Nightstalker insignias.
It sounds at first like Nightstalker's would be better for the armor boost, but I'm thinking that since I'll be using Critical Defenses for any countering any major melee assault and that armor ignoring damage will probably be an issue in a few areas, Survivor's would make a better choice.
It sounds at first like Nightstalker's would be better for the armor boost, but I'm thinking that since I'll be using Critical Defenses for any countering any major melee assault and that armor ignoring damage will probably be an issue in a few areas, Survivor's would make a better choice.
MegaVolti
Never ever Survivor's. Armor is reduced damage, reduced damage means your Monks have to heal less.
The only reason ever to get Survivor's is coordinated spikes in PvP. But these don't happen in PvE. And for those big one-hit bosses you got [[Protective Spirit] anyway.
Surviver suck in PvE, always.
As for the +armor to chose: I went with Blessed. As you said you are running an enchantment all the time anyway (no Assassins leaves without [[Critical Agility], right?). Better to have the +10 always up then having the +15 not up half the time (when kiting or moving between enemies).
The only reason ever to get Survivor's is coordinated spikes in PvP. But these don't happen in PvE. And for those big one-hit bosses you got [[Protective Spirit] anyway.
Surviver suck in PvE, always.
As for the +armor to chose: I went with Blessed. As you said you are running an enchantment all the time anyway (no Assassins leaves without [[Critical Agility], right?). Better to have the +10 always up then having the +15 not up half the time (when kiting or moving between enemies).
ac1inferno
Nightstalker's only work when you are attacking. Survivor's always work.
[Morkai]
dilan155
nightslatkers would be your best bet, because with MB/DB you should be attacking most of the time anyway
Luminarus
I like survivor because more health means I get targeted less, and then I start spamming save urselves and entire damage gets reduced.
fenix
Either use Survivor, or use one of the specific damage type ones. Nightstalkers is a waste, especially in PvE when damage doesn't matter. Bring prot, and you can frenzy 24/7, so why you would ever want 50000 armor on a sin is beyond me.
tl;dr 640hp > all.
tl;dr 640hp > all.
Bobby2
The only thing I fear in PvE are large armor ignoring (boss) spikes. Survivor's for me.
Mayda
Vanguard, Saboteur and so on give +10 only vs. physical, i used Blessed and was happy - not sure how the damage comparison between Blessed and Vanguard looks, but anyway, its 10 times cheaper:-P
Shayne Hawke
odly
Blessed or radiant you mean !
You'll either be enchanted with shadow form or critical agility. If it's shadow form you won't be taking any damage so you're best of with radiant. If it's critical agility blessed would be best.
now, flame me :-)
You'll either be enchanted with shadow form or critical agility. If it's shadow form you won't be taking any damage so you're best of with radiant. If it's critical agility blessed would be best.
now, flame me :-)
Damian979
If you have sabway heroes spamming prot spirit then +armor becomes irrelevant 99.9% percent of the time anyway. All you need to worry about is armor ignoring life steals. Survivor.
Super Igor
Survivor methinks.
Kale Ironfist
Kale Ironfist
Quote:
Originally Posted by Game Update June 15, 2007
ALF71BE
Survivor's, always and for everyone.
You already have 95 armor anyways.
You already have 95 armor anyways.
Stealth Bomberman
if you're using [critical defense] which is wasted slot in pve imo, why bother with armor period. nightstalkers for me. if you can find a balance between high health and high armor, why lean towards one??
ensoriki
Armor becomes completely irrevelant if you have protective spirit on you.
However Health will always matter, always.
regardless of build even in a 55 >.> the goal is 55 health =P.
So whats the point?
GO SURVIVOR!!!
Survivor and radiant are....the best.
However Health will always matter, always.
regardless of build even in a 55 >.> the goal is 55 health =P.
So whats the point?
GO SURVIVOR!!!
Survivor and radiant are....the best.
Bobby2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman

/snip
You don't know what you're talking about.
Daedra Deinheart
On my very first set of max armor I put 3 Survivors and 2 Nightstalkers. It worked fine and its more armor and more health. But now I use just Survivors.
-Daedra
-Daedra
Phantom Flux
I find making chest and leggings nightstalker and the rest radiant. It gives a balance.