Titles for The Deeps, Urgoz, DOA, Sorrow's Furnace, FOW and UW, The Last Heirophant

Phantom Flux

Phantom Flux

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

New York City

Phantom Flux (FLUX)

A/

There should be titles granted to beating Urgoz, The Deep, The Last Heiorphant, Fissue of Woe, Underworld, Sorrow's Furnace and Domain of Anguish. The statues you get to display in hom for most of these places are nice, but the titles would help a lot more, especially to classes that has beaten it, yet still get so much class discrimination for it, such as an Assassin.

I play an Assassin and have beaten most of them and didn't need the typical perma build for it. The title would be proof (w/o dragging a pug to your hom to show you know how to work this mission/quest) that it can be done.

It is annoying when you see pugs class discriminating only to make an elitist team enjoy an epic failure in less time it took them than assembling the team.

legacyofkain85

legacyofkain85

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Lady Ainowa

lol more titles no ty,u already get hom statue which is enough imo
/notsigned

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

A title for each area? hell no.

One title for all areas? Maybe.

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

D/

I made a thread about titles for elite areas a while ago (use search ftw), and I think you've managed to point out one of the major cons of the idea already:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Flux View Post
It is annoying when you see pugs class discriminating only to make an elitist team
A good number of people in the thread I made said title=elitistness.
That and the whole no more titles thing.
If this were ever to fly, it should include tombs and SF.

But regardless, after seeing the logical responses to my old post, /notsigned.

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

OK,
GuildWars player's never stop....i want this, i want that.....leave the game alone

Phantom Flux

Phantom Flux

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

New York City

Phantom Flux (FLUX)

A/

Forget the statue in HOM, the titles help against class discrimination. You can't always pick an ELE with FOW armor that tends to do horribly, or a monk that does nothing but rage quit.

titles should be allowed. those who dont sign are just threatened.

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Flux View Post
the titles help against class discrimination.
Maybe so, but titles help title discrimination.
Example:
Lets call the title elitist (ironic, yes)
"GLF MORE FOR FOW, R5+ ELITIST ONLY"
...need i say more?

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Riding the spiral

W/

There are plenty of goddam titles to reach r6 KoBD already. You don't need more. The recent bumps to the grind titles should be enough. If there was a title for every area, then I'd agree to ANet making there 8 ranks of KoBD, just so you're still a few grind titles away from max. No moar titles, sir.

However, I might be leaning towards a single title for having beaten all of the elite areas (Tombs included, cause it's sort of an elite area). No second one for HM completion, cause even that's still easy.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Flux View Post
There should be titles granted to beating Urgoz, The Deep, The Last Heiorphant, Fissue of Woe, Underworld, Sorrow's Furnace and Domain of Anguish.
You forgot Tombs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Flux
The title would be proof ... that it can be done.
Anything can be done by anything. Getting an Elite Mission once doesn't mean that you can do it easily, you could have been an idiot in a good group.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Flux
It is annoying when you see pugs class discriminating only to make an elitist team enjoy an epic failure in less time it took them than assembling the team.
Two things: 1) How would this fix discriminating? It won't. 2) Titles are elitism.

MStarfire

MStarfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

[SOS]

Rt/

I should have a title for buying the game.

Or better yet, how about one title for every explorable area I make it through while on a Primary Quest?

Hell with it, just give me a title for every explorable area I set foot into.

Towns and outposts, too.

And dungeons. One title for setting foot there, another for completion.

How about a title for every quest I finish, too?

And I REALLY think there should be a title for how much money we have. For every 100k in xunlai storage, you get a new tier:

r1: Money In The Bank
r2: Heavily Invested
r3: Independently Wealthy
r4: Very Well-Off
r5: Trust-Fund Kid (eligible for monument)
r6: New Money
r7: Scrooge McDuck
r8: Jew
r9: Oil Baron
r10: I Ebay All My Gold (counts toward KOABD track)

Once you earn a particular tier you keep the rank, even if you drop back below the threshold.

Something like that.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

not enough of an achievement to be used for title. if u know what ur doing so much, form ur own non-discrimination group.

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

conquering all the areas is a bit more difficult then protector of factions. so i think it deserves a title, ive already came up with the title name, in a prior post many months ago, Legendary Conqueror (1), only 1 teir, counts to kobd, and must complete all elite areas to obtain title. HoM statues will verify if a char has completed them prior to title being inplace.

its another title, yes, but they added a lot worse titles in the game then a title to show you cleared all elite areas. if your going to whine about this, your either whining because you dont want people to have a highger rank in kobd to be as cool as you, or you cant get into groups to do these missions and dont want others to have another title. either way, your a selfish scrub

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Just what we need, another title. Think I will pass, thanks anyway.

dread slayer

dread slayer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Somewhere

A guild??? What is that?

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
conquering all the areas is a bit more difficult then protector of factions. so i think it deserves a title, ive already came up with the title name, in a prior post many months ago, Legendary Conqueror (1), only 1 teir, counts to kobd, and must complete all elite areas to obtain title. HoM statues will verify if a char has completed them prior to title being inplace.

I'm fine with w/e....... Shizno's idea seems Ok...... I just don't like people going :
"Oh! Look at me, bow down to the conquerer since it's L337!"

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

There is no need to prove to idiots that PvE is easily stompable for everyone, regardless of profession. It's just a fact, and if people are too stupid to realize that, then they will be too stupid to accept your title as an accomplishment anyway.

But hey, I want more titles for easy, mindless stuff, so bring it on. That's like thirty more titles for me, right there. Hell yeah.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
conquering all the areas is a bit more difficult then protector of factions. so i think it deserves a title, ive already came up with the title name, in a prior post many months ago, Legendary Conqueror (1), only 1 teir, counts to kobd, and must complete all elite areas to obtain title. HoM statues will verify if a char has completed them prior to title being inplace.
I can only agree to this on four conditions:

1) Tombs is included (this means gets a HoM statue and counts to the title)
2) the Titan Quests are included (same as Tombs, but also made repeatable - DoA style *have to do them in order of how we originally get them, so no repeating Titan Source over and over)
3) Have to do each in NM and in HM. Total of 2 times each elite area.
4, and most important) Included in a revamp to Tombs, Sorrow's, and Titan Quest (possibly another revamp of UW/FoW/DoA *including nerfs and new items*), with these suggestions as a background.

That is all.

Mohnzh

Mohnzh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld...

[KCOR]

Mo/

I have NEVER heard anyone in the game talk or act like you guys are suggesting they would if this title were added. I see people displaying the MGHSORM or the GWAMM titles, but nobody ever boasting about them. I have never seen people form groups demanding that certain criteria be met. I have never seen "title discrimination". I have seen "class discrimination", but only rarely. I wouldn't mind the title. I think titles have motivated me to do a lot of things in the game that I normally would not have. As a result, I have found very enjoyable facets of the game that I would not have otherwise known existed. Because there is no title for the elite missions, up until last night I had only done Tombs. I attempted FoW HM last night and had a blast. Now I want to get it done and try Urgoz and some others. It would be nice to get a title for it. I'm okay not getting one, but this whole "title discrimination" seems ludicrous to me. Surely you can come up with a reason that has some sort of foundation before blowing the OP off.

To the OP, PUGing is always hit or miss. Showing a title won't help you get into a good group. Like you said, many of them will wipe pretty quickly anyway. Your presence won't fix that. Go with people you know are competent. I would typically would rarely allow a smiting monk in my party, but one of my guild officers runs as one and does a phenomenal job. Knowing the person and their capabilities makes all the difference in getting onto a good team.

SilentGaiden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

Lords and Warriors[LAW]

A/

Elite missions rewards are good enough you get a Statue for your HoM as for titles they should have one for dancing r6 would be dancing for 10k minutes lol jk there are to many titles already

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by MStarfire View Post

And I REALLY think there should be a title for how much money we have. For every 100k in xunlai storage, you get a new tier:

r1: Money In The Bank
r2: Heavily Invested
r3: Independently Wealthy
r4: Very Well-Off
r5: Trust-Fund Kid (eligible for monument)
r6: New Money
r7: Scrooge McDuck
r8: Jew
r9: Oil Baron
r10: I Ebay All My Gold (counts toward KOABD track)

Once you earn a particular tier you keep the rank, even if you drop back below the threshold.

Something like that.
You forgot r11: I Duped My Braces for players with Stack of armbraces and 1m in storage

Ranger Icarus

Ranger Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2008

United States

Perfectionists Cult [NICE]

R/Rt

Would this really help getting rid of discrimination? People may leech off groups just to get this title, which proves nothing really. I'm not saying leechers will find a group at all elite areas, however when you can easily leech at DoA and someone with the title is looking for a group for DoA, they may know nothing of how to do certain farms, as they may have just leeched the whole area.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohnzh View Post
I have NEVER heard anyone in the game talk or act like you guys are suggesting they would if this title were added. I see people displaying the MGHSORM or the GWAMM titles, but nobody ever boasting about them. I have never seen people form groups demanding that certain criteria be met. I have never seen "title discrimination". I have seen "class discrimination", but only rarely.
You obviously haven't gone to DoA prior to the Ursan nerf. Or ToA. PuGs only accepted r5+, then later r8+, and just before the nerf, I hardly even saw r9+, they were all r10.

Then the nerf came, and all that went bye bye. Well, DoA still sees R8 LB... when there are people there.

Taetra Pack

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Sweden

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MStarfire View Post
And I REALLY think there should be a title for how much money we have. For every 100k in xunlai storage, you get a new tier:

r1: Money In The Bank
r2: Heavily Invested
r3: Independently Wealthy
r4: Very Well-Off
r5: Trust-Fund Kid (eligible for monument)
r6: New Money
r7: Scrooge McDuck
r8: Jew
r9: Oil Baron
r10: I Ebay All My Gold (counts toward KOABD track)

Once you earn a particular tier you keep the rank, even if you drop back below the threshold.

Something like that.
so /signed, I want Jew-title xP

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

just chillin

Omg Gwen Is Legal [EotN]

/notsigned

been suggested, been hated

/closethreadplease

edit:
Scrooge McDuck rofl

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

/not signed.

titles that easy made shouldnt be around...so Nop

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

I LOVE the idea of more titles - since currently there are like ... 3 or 4 titles in the WHOLE that game I like. So having a variety of titles would help someone like me to actually advance in the Kind title-track.
And the activities required to obtain the listed titles seem fun!

So a /signed from me!

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

easily obtained titles shouldnt be around?

lol ok, just get rid of every title then. you pve kids still dont get it, titles mean nothing. its just shows an accomplishment to your achivement in games, which is why this does deserve a title. you completed all elite missions, you deserve a title. you completed all missions, you get one.

the fact your not realizing is you pve kids THINK titles mean something, and dont want easy titles added cause it dosnt show skill. um, news flash, pve is a joke. and all the titles can be obtained easily. there isnt one single title in pve that isnt leeched,gimmicked,or bought.

Darth Durgason

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Forgotten Elonian Angels

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
easily obtained titles shouldnt be around?

lol ok, just get rid of every title then. you pve kids still dont get it, titles mean nothing. its just shows an accomplishment to your achivement in games, which is why this does deserve a title. you completed all elite missions, you deserve a title. you completed all missions, you get one.

the fact your not realizing is you pve kids THINK titles mean something, and dont want easy titles added cause it dosnt show skill. um, news flash, pve is a joke. and all the titles can be obtained easily. there isnt one single title in pve that can't be leeched,gimmicked,or bought.
Fixed that one for you. I'm mainly pvp and i like to complete most of the titles. Not to show off, more cause it gives me a goal and something to complete. I'm not impressed by other players titles, unless they are impressed by it themselves, and thats only possible when i know them. I like my ranger r3 survivor, i like my para r2 survivor, my assassin r3 survivor leaves me stonecold because how i got it...

I agree completly that people put to much value to them. But thats more elitism. Elitism != titles. Hate elitism, not titles.

/semi-signed, it will not help against class-discrimination and in worst case help with title discrimination. It will never help against that.
I only agree cause it can encourage players to finish all elite area's with a character, as a motivator.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
easily obtained titles shouldnt be around?

lol ok, just get rid of every title then. you pve kids still dont get it, titles mean nothing. its just shows an accomplishment to your achivement in games, which is why this does deserve a title. you completed all elite missions, you deserve a title. you completed all missions, you get one.

the fact your not realizing is you pve kids THINK titles mean something, and dont want easy titles added cause it dosnt show skill. um, news flash, pve is a joke. and all the titles can be obtained easily. there isnt one single title in pve that isnt leeched,gimmicked,or bought.
LOL you call others a kid for playing PvE... men reacting like the way
you do.. is THAT Mature ...... Pls let me never grow up than

Shemsu Anpw

Shemsu Anpw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Sephirot - Keter

/Not Signed. Too many titles that Don't mean anything.

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

its not intended to be literal "kids playing pve" the term "pve kids" refers to players who after 3 years still dont pvp because they suck, think its too hard, cant get groups, or whatever the excuse is and continue to whine about the game on a pve aspect. "pve kids" is adults still on training wheels on their bikes, they want a challenge in guild wars, aslong as they still get to use their pve only skills, cons, and dont have to fight anything that could beat them.

@darth
i am a pvp player aswell, so you might know me. but on the note of titles, my main char is a monk named Simmons and has 21 maxed titles. most of them are ones i can do easily, with heros (guardian, vanquish, skill hunter). it gives me something to do when the guild is not online or i dont feel like gvg/ha. which is why a title based on completing all the elite missions should be in the game, it does nothing to hurt pve, it gives a reason more then just a chest to do elite missions again.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Flux View Post
(w/o dragging a pug to your hom to show you know how to work this mission/quest)
Um, why would you care what the 13 year olds think?

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

from july
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10309469

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
You obviously haven't gone to DoA prior to the Ursan nerf. Or ToA. PuGs only accepted r5+, then later r8+, and just before the nerf, I hardly even saw r9+, they were all r10.

Then the nerf came, and all that went bye bye. Well, DoA still sees R8 LB... when there are people there.
You forgot the biggest one:
HA.

viper11025

viper11025

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle)

A/

I've got an idea.

R1 Conqueror of Tyria
Complete all elite missions, including Malyx, sorrows fernnace, slavers exile, FoW, UW, Urgoz, the deep, and Tombs of the primeval kings. This title does not count for GWAMM.

EVERYONE happy?
>.>
I've been waiting for this title for awhile, and would like it and keep it as my main.

Remove it from the GWAMM count unless someone has GWAMM, and then it would matter, if you remove the problem of it being "just another title" then would that suffice?

Seriously, the solution is simple, but the use of it is great. I hate it when people kick someone for lack of the class they feel best with, and not based on experience. Holy trinity rains over all it seems.

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

how would conqueror of tyria have anything to do with mallyx?
retard =\

just keep the name simple, Legendary Conqueror, every other multi campaign title is Legendary X, also means highest rank.

dont change how the system of titles works. especially if your idea dosnt even make sense

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
how would conqueror of tyria have anything to do with mallyx?
retard =\

just keep the name simple, Legendary Conqueror, every other multi campaign title is Legendary X, also means highest rank.

dont change how the system of titles works. especially if your idea dosnt even make sense
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Young_Heroes_of_Tyria
The guys at A.Net think you're wrong.

Darth Durgason

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Forgotten Elonian Angels

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno View Post
its not intended to be literal "kids playing pve" the term "pve kids" refers to players who after 3 years still dont pvp because they suck, think its too hard, cant get groups, or whatever the excuse is and continue to whine about the game on a pve aspect. "pve kids" is adults still on training wheels on their bikes, they want a challenge in guild wars, aslong as they still get to use their pve only skills, cons, and dont have to fight anything that could beat them.

@darth
i am a pvp player aswell, so you might know me. but on the note of titles, my main char is a monk named Simmons and has 21 maxed titles. most of them are ones i can do easily, with heros (guardian, vanquish, skill hunter). it gives me something to do when the guild is not online or i dont feel like gvg/ha. which is why a title based on completing all the elite missions should be in the game, it does nothing to hurt pve, it gives a reason more then just a chest to do elite missions again.
did i say pvp, i really ment pve. Amazing huh, a pve player going for titles only for himself cause he likes to complete it rather then show off:P. For the rest, i agree with you about the title as you probably noticed.

MStarfire

MStarfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

[SOS]

Rt/

I also want a title for how many arrows I fire.

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

then why not a title for every quest ever completed???

because that would be lame.

r1 Althea's Ashes Ranger LFG!

Narcissia

Narcissia

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

BC Canada

Guild With No [NAM???]

/not signed
there are plenty of titles already. dont really need anymore. HoM statues are enough