Question about H/Hing + HM Heros' handbook

Ok, i'm looking to get into some hardcore rep farming. And my research has found (who knows if it's right), that the 2 best ways to get it both revolve around hero's handbook. The top way being to just do a full HM run. The second being to take the minimum 3 extra entries, totaling to 3k rep (obviously this is to be farmed as fast as is possible). The 3 entries I've researched to be the best are:
A Time for heroes (Ridiculously easy)
Curse of the Nornbear
Blood Washes Blood.

My Build ATfH works perfectly, so no complaining there. I havn't been able to find a way however, to smash through H/H Blood Washes Blood or Curse of the Nornbear succesfully. So i have a couple of questions.

1) Are there any quests easier to run in HM? That are less time consuming and possibly easier?
2) If not, are there any H/H methods to take out those 2 quests? =]

Any help would be appreciated

P.S - If there are any solo / H/H farming builds that will take out the rep for each faster then 6k an hour, i'd love to hear it :P (for an ele)

Discord team + ward of stability for curse of the nornbear.
Discord team + ward against elements for blood washes blood.

Well, easiest ánd fastest are both the charr quests (not the dungeon) and G.O.L.E.M questline.

If you look on wiki.guildwars.com, you'll see that the first charr quest takes 15min or so and is rather easy if you pull/tank properly.
The 2nd has a small exploit that makes the mission easy (most mobs will not attack, since the scripted event prevents them from fighting) and do-able in 15-30m like the first charr mission.

GOLEM: same story. Small exploit (never get close to the asura) and you can kill nearly all the destroyers beforehand instead of getting sieged by them. Like above; 15-30min do-able.

The are the fastest/easiest arround, all due to the scripted events. Best however is going for a full book; nearly every quest/dungeon-line takes towards 30min but the reward becomes higher on every following mission.


IMPORTANT: CALCULATE REP BEFORE BOOK TURNIN! Each mission/quest gives rep; would be a waste if you are r10 on vanguard, but still have to do the charr mission a few times wasting the rep you would've gotten normally. That should also help in cutting down time.

for any of the of them a discord team will work wonders.

I agree with 2 of your 3 easiset missions in HM

ATFH - Agree
Norn Bear - Agree

In My opinion BWB- takes longer and is more difficult than Against the Charr and also Golum. A Gate To Far is also pretty easy. if you bring Pain Inverter the destroyers kill them selves pretty quickly if you go/mesmer and echo PI you kill them twice as fast.

Against the charr is easier than BWB imo and discordway will own it all.

do atfh against the charr and norn bear,bring discordway herta mhenlo zho and lo sha

I personally just did 5 full HM handbooks about three weeks ago to max out all my EotN rep titles. I ran mostly a Discordway setup taking Devona, Talon, Mhenlo, and one of the rangers, honestly don't even remember which - probably Zho. Took a while since it was 5 full books, but I don't remember having a serious problem on a single quest. It's the way I'd suggest since you get 30,000 for a full book.

When my guildies maxed theirs out, they did the "quick three quests" method, and they used A Time for Heroes, Curse of the Nornbear, and G.O.L.E.M. I'd recommend Against the Charr instead of G.O.L.E.M.

discord way should do it, maybe u wanna do it together? my main is war with 3 full runes discord hero's and i can use some rep points, pm if you are interested, i'm back from school tommorow and online about 16.30 pm (GMT +1)

Well I did this quest yesturday with no problems if you need help let me know am working on my HM Hero Books also. Also if anyone would like to join me wisper me also I need 14-15 to finish my books but I might do another one if I find people to help. IGN Aztheck Ghost

Could somebody explain to me the rundown of Discordway? Thanks a lot for the feedback

And yes, i'll be glad to come along with anybody that needs to do books. Just pick me up ingame. Ellie Ele.

If you wanted to just do 3 quests over and over, I'd suggest ATFH, curse, and against the charr. Golem if you are good enough to hold a side with 2 heroes and give a hero and the hench the other side. Though tbh most of them take 10-15mins and then there are some 15-20 etc. I'd personally just do full books to avoid the boredom factor. if you get good enough at it, you can charge quite a bit of money to let someone afk in your party while you do it with 3 heroes and 3 hench to make some cash while maxing titles. Or, go for legendary master of the north - the HUGE first time rep bonuses for all missions and dungeons + rep from vanqing + rep from the four books you'd fill in the process is nearly enough to max all 4 titles.

If you happen to be a sin, you can solo against the charr lol.

Discord builds are all over this forum in the PvE sections and on PvXwiki. Basically its a team build that spreads hexes and conditions and then spams discord for tons of damage. Since hex + condition + discord is 2 or 3 skill slots on each necro, you can fill out the rest of the bar with other fun stuff. Many people like putting a minion skill and then speccing atts into restoration to add some nice heals like spirit light, vengeful wep, etc. You could also spec into prot for PS, aegis, spirit bond. Or channeling for splinter wep, ancestors rage, spirit rift, etc. Hopefully you get the point.

That being said, I've never bothered with it. Discord and sabways function is to give a cookie cutter build that will work in 95% of areas in the game without you having to do anything, adapt the bars, or even know how they work. But if you know the specific challenges and vulnerabilities (lolz @challenges in pve) of each quest, you can use hero builds which are more fun AND faster than discord.

I do the 5 quests listed above: ATFH, Nornbear, G.O.L.E.M, Charr and BWB (which is a little bit longer) because they are easy and 4th and 5th give more rep points than the first 3.

discordway does NOT work at the end of BWB because snowmender can outheal all of the damage. I've even burnt loads of his energy off and he continues to heal through dazed and energy denial and heal every point of damage from 3 necros spamming discord.

Quote: