Right now we've got quite a lot of books that will take up our inventory space, and some carry them about most of the time. My idea is this;
We have a new NPC, Librarian based in all of the towns in the game, and the Guild Hall as a purchasable NPC. We can store and take out books at her (if she isn't hot send ANet angry emails), and our progress through missions that give additional completion to the book will be carried out through the librarian too. We will have to take them out to give it in for faction, reputation points and whatnot and we can take the book out for say if we wish to read it, such as Zho's Journal. This is only character based, so you can't use books from one character to update another characters' reputation points either.
Dunno, just a thought.
Library.
Tyla
Taisayacho
I would just make it a storage compartment. we only have, what, eight books? not worth a whole NPC
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Taisayacho
I would just make it a storage compartment. we only have, what, eight books? not worth a whole NPC
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MStarfire
YOUR idea? Think again.
Read this, and notice the date.
And I doubt that even I was the first to think of it.
Read this, and notice the date.
And I doubt that even I was the first to think of it.
Rak Orgon of Beowulf
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Librarian based in all of the towns in the game, and the Guild Hall as a purchasable NPC.
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i say in capital cities of each area of each game
i.e. Kam, EoTN, Kaineng, HzH & Cavalon, Kodash, sunspear sanct. etc etc
Tyla
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Originally Posted by MStarfire
YOUR idea? Think again.
Read this, and notice the date. And I doubt that even I was the first to think of it. |
Edit: Removed the page, I see your point. That page keeps glitching on me so I can't actually read it. It's not necesarily in Sardelac, the forum made for game suggestions though, is it? Sorry if I beaten you to the flag, but there are no rewards for having ideas.
wind fire and ice
/signed
Imo a pannel in the H tab would be easier to put in/work out on Anets part and would do the same thing though.
Imo a pannel in the H tab would be easier to put in/work out on Anets part and would do the same thing though.
MStarfire
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Link is failing to work for me, didn't claim that I originally thought it up in the first place because I probably won't anyway.
Edit: Removed the page, I see your point. That page keeps glitching on me so I can't actually read it. It's not necesarily in Sardelac, the forum made for game suggestions though, is it? Sorry if I beaten you to the flag, but there are no rewards for having ideas. |
And besides, don't you know that we should each get a max title for every idea we come up with?
Tyla
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Sorry, I linked a broken page. I've updated the link in my original post, and will provide it again here.
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cognophile
I like the idea. My character's backpack doesn't have room for all 17 storybooks. But how many copies of each book would the library be able to hold?
gremlin
I guess one thought going through the developers minds at the moment is
Why don't they get one book finish it hand it in before getting a second one.
I messed up and have 5 books on one character but I recon I will not do that on the other characters.
Like the library npc idea
Like Stacking books in some way
Like a special storage section for books
Hopefully they will take pity on those of us with a book fetish
Why don't they get one book finish it hand it in before getting a second one.
I messed up and have 5 books on one character but I recon I will not do that on the other characters.
Like the library npc idea
Like Stacking books in some way
Like a special storage section for books
Hopefully they will take pity on those of us with a book fetish
ALF71BE
I'd like more a special tab in storage.
Include Tomes and Scrolls there too, imo.
Include Tomes and Scrolls there too, imo.
Painbringer
Since I can only handle one book at a time this would be a good thing
Konig Des Todes
There is an issue. Unless you make it EXACTLY like the Xunlai Storage, it won't work. Why? Well, Hatmaker/Weaponsmith - your examples - give BLANK items, which is the same as the Book NPCs we have now. Can't stack books either unless they are exactly the same, this is why - I believe - that inscriptions and mods are not stackable, other then "economy" (aka hording) problems.
Might as well just increase Belt pouch size to 2 rows, bags to 3, and add a 5th tab of storage. Or, heck, just add 5 storage tabs, two rows of tabs. We can do that.
/sign for more storage, but this idea probably won't work. Need Linsey's confirmation though, as I may be misinterpreting what she said on the book-items.
Might as well just increase Belt pouch size to 2 rows, bags to 3, and add a 5th tab of storage. Or, heck, just add 5 storage tabs, two rows of tabs. We can do that.
/sign for more storage, but this idea probably won't work. Need Linsey's confirmation though, as I may be misinterpreting what she said on the book-items.
Daedra Deinheart
I like the idea too but Azazel has a point.
-Daedra
-Daedra
dilan155
/signed on the stacking
/signed on the storage tab OR /signed for the library. we really need more space, while your at it add scrolls and tomes in to it kthxbye
/signed on the storage tab OR /signed for the library. we really need more space, while your at it add scrolls and tomes in to it kthxbye
CyberMesh0
Said it in every other version of this suggestion, will say it again.
Just copy and revamp the Incubator.
Just copy and revamp the Incubator.
AshenX
Either an NPC or an extra page in storage would be nice.
Firestone
Actually, rather than carrying useless books around, I would prefer a NPC librarian that will update that ever you have completed at the moment whenever you talk to him.
And when there are enough accumulated, he will offer to let you select an appropriate reward based on what you have completed.
that will solve the problem of book storage / forgetting to bring books / too many books to bring etc.
Example:
NPC dialogue:
"Greetings, Heroes! My name is Klim. Pronounce it with me, "Kl-eeee-m". Reverse of the word "Milk", yes? Master Librarian Antohneoss has bestowed upon me the honorable job of collecting legendary tales of the great heroes to add to Mehtu the Wise's great Library. I take my job seriously. Come, give me an exclusive story, that will parallel the stories written by The Scribe!
- Yes
- No
Clicking on No
NPC dialogue:
Come back to me when you have interesting tales to tell. Always... no, no... never... forget to check your references.
Clicking on Yes
There should be options for
1. Prophecies
2. Factions
3. Nightfall
4. EoTN
5. etc etc
Clicking on 2. Factions for example
there should be an option to keep track of which missions have been done / incomplete
and an option below to trade in for a reward.
And when there are enough accumulated, he will offer to let you select an appropriate reward based on what you have completed.
that will solve the problem of book storage / forgetting to bring books / too many books to bring etc.
Example:
NPC dialogue:
"Greetings, Heroes! My name is Klim. Pronounce it with me, "Kl-eeee-m". Reverse of the word "Milk", yes? Master Librarian Antohneoss has bestowed upon me the honorable job of collecting legendary tales of the great heroes to add to Mehtu the Wise's great Library. I take my job seriously. Come, give me an exclusive story, that will parallel the stories written by The Scribe!
- Yes
- No
Clicking on No
NPC dialogue:
Come back to me when you have interesting tales to tell. Always... no, no... never... forget to check your references.
Clicking on Yes
There should be options for
1. Prophecies
2. Factions
3. Nightfall
4. EoTN
5. etc etc
Clicking on 2. Factions for example
there should be an option to keep track of which missions have been done / incomplete
and an option below to trade in for a reward.
Div
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Originally Posted by MStarfire
YOUR idea? Think again.
Read this, and notice the date. And I doubt that even I was the first to think of it. |
/signed purely because we'll be getting a librarian, even though I've been against additional storage.
P.S. She better be hot.
Numa Pompilius
8 avatars, 8 books per avatar, and they can't be stacked because they're personalized... A tab in Xunlai wont cut it, one'd need a special npc to stack them all.
/signed.
/signed.
upier
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
It was the fact that it was called a librarian that turned me on.
/signed purely because we'll be getting a librarian, even though I've been against additional storage. P.S. She better be hot. |
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Originally Posted by Tyla
We have a new NPC, Librarian based in all of the towns in the game, and the Guild Hall as a purchasable NPC. We can store and take out books at him, and our progress through missions that give additional completion to the book will be carried out through the librarian too.
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Just balance the titles so that they don't require books.
Storage problem saved.
Grind removed.
Win, win, WIN!
Tyla
Oh, okay, I'll update it.
Div
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Originally Posted by upier
Storage problem saved.
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The Meth
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GW as a grindless game died when titles came out. Anyone who still thinks GW should have no grind is just too idealistic, because a game without grind has no reason for people to continue playing it.
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Also, Titles really weren't bad for PvE back when they were purely cosmetic and were achievement based instead of grind based. Looking back though, you can tell it was Anet who was intending to make them grind based from the beginning. Nice bait and switch there.
As far as holding books are concerned, let me quote my idea from another thread on how a change could be implemented:
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Why don't they just make the mission marked as uncompleted after turning in a book? Assuming the player's mission completion title is permanent (like how after dieing you don't lose your survivor rank), I see no reason why they can't just unflag all mission completions and then then give you a reward when x number of missions are completed again. No need for a book at all. Then any complaints about lack of server space would be voided since the needed information (mission completion) is already stored. It would require quite a bit of work to overhaul a system they JUST put in though.
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upier
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Thinking that the lack of books will solve the storage problem is naive. Every week a dozen new threads come out about needing new storage because (insert reason here).
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It would be nice to have it - but considering one can only play one character at a time - one can always fill up the remaining guys with the crap one can't throw away.
I think I have 7ish guys filled up with crap I "desperately need". Which I mostly keep for a few months then sell it to the merch for it's fantastic value of a few 10 gold.
I want more storage. I just don't want it enough to shell out a few € for it.
Which then poses the question - how much do I REALLY need it?
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GW as a grindless game died when titles came out. Anyone who still thinks GW should have no grind is just too idealistic, because a game without grind has no reason for people to continue playing it.
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And some titles aren't REALLY that bad. Stuff like protector/cartographer are in reality quite decent ones. Because you get them by actually playing the game the way it was designed. You do missions, you explore the world. A questing title would be superb also. And that's what they should be looking at - crappy ass titles that are fairly easy to achieve because they pretty much only serve as an additional character description.
The problem is crap like PvE-skill-titles which SCREAM for grind.
Puebert
/signed for NPC.
Storage tab was vetoed by ANet.
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Storage tab was vetoed by ANet.
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Phantom Flux
/signed MAJOR NEED FOR LIBARY!! takes up too much space in regular storage and inventory.
Need Library now!!!!
Need Library now!!!!
Sharkman
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
8 avatars, 8 books per avatar, and they can't be stacked because they're personalized... A tab in Xunlai wont cut it, one'd need a special npc to stack them all.
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16 books * 8 chars = no fun
Anet is totally discriminating against people who like to switch it up between campaigns and difficulty levels. Why should I get penalized if I want to kill the Lich, hop over to Frost gate and beat it in HM, go show Kunnavaang whats happening, maybe BMP it for a while, and then reread my Golem User Manual to make sure Im using MOX correctly? Thats right, I shouldnt be.
Really though, I could see this feature being somewhat useful, but hasnt Regina already claimed that it would either be impossible/impractical? My solution is only take two, maybe three books per char at a time. If you dont see yourself using any of your ten different varieties of scrolls within the next five months, the scroll trader has a place for them. Again, decent idea, but I dont see it as being all that necessary.
And for the storage tab idea, how many people do you think would actually use it for books, honestly.
Tyla
Calling it "discrimination" is beyond the faded line.
Zera Fang
I'm sort of amazed that no one has really mentioned the skill books in all of this. They're books too and I have more of those than I do questing books. If you take into account that there are ten professions and each of those professions has two kinds of books, Regular and Elite, then you could have up to twenty different books that can't stack on each other... If they could find a way to store both in one area it would take a load off of my storage and out of my pack/pack mules.
I think in theory a librarian NPC is a good idea, but in practice it would just be one more freaking NPC loitering around in every major outpost that are already filled with some many other NPCs that makes it a bother to find the freaking merchant. Personally, I like the idea of a popup virtual library that you could open in towns and outposts with a tab for customized books, specific to each character, and then a generalized portion for skill books and maybe even runes and insignias that all characters on an account can get to. -Shrugs- Or Anet could be lazy and just combine all books into one giant book full of all the other books...
I think in theory a librarian NPC is a good idea, but in practice it would just be one more freaking NPC loitering around in every major outpost that are already filled with some many other NPCs that makes it a bother to find the freaking merchant. Personally, I like the idea of a popup virtual library that you could open in towns and outposts with a tab for customized books, specific to each character, and then a generalized portion for skill books and maybe even runes and insignias that all characters on an account can get to. -Shrugs- Or Anet could be lazy and just combine all books into one giant book full of all the other books...
Phantom Flux
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Storage tab was vetoed by ANet. =[
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pamelf
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Really? Anet is lame for that.
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I do hope however that they realize that storage is something that people are more than willing to pay real money for. I've said it before, i'll say it again; the money they would make from adding extra storage to the online store would probably pay for new/better/upgraded servers many times over. While I would never agree with adding in game content like weapons, armours etc to the online store for real money, something that needs extra server space, and that Anet currently doesn't have, I'd be more than willing to pay money for. Hell, if they set up a page for donations, I would DONATE money to them so they could upgrade their servers if it meant storage additions in the future.
Omega Precept
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
It was the fact that it was called a librarian that turned me on.
/signed purely because we'll be getting a librarian, even though I've been against additional storage. P.S. She better be hot. |
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FlamingMetroid
/signed only if its a hot librarian I can fap to
The Little Viking
I dont see why we need books at all. It should have been implemented like the sarrows furnace quests (sorry for the poor spelling). Each quest for (example) vanguard goes into the quest log when you pick them up from the HoM, and when you have finished said quest it says completed in the quest log, you can still get your XP, but until you have xx amount of any done you cant get your final reward. When you go see (example) the vanguard Hearld and get your 10,000 (just a number) vanguard points, at that point all the quests completed disappear and you can get them again from the original quest getting point. Yes it would mean a special tab in the quest log......
And with that said....
I do like the library idea a lot better.
And with that said....
I do like the library idea a lot better.
cosyfiep
I like the incubator idea...there would be ONE space for each book (either the hm or reg, not both and the young tyrian one as well--since there is no normal mode for it)....if you are carrying more than one copy of each WHY???? you can only fill in one at a time anyways.
so not quite a library (cause with 16 active characters thats just tooooo big)....
so not quite a library (cause with 16 active characters thats just tooooo big)....
Nightfallen Phoenix
/signed. I'm already ****** sick of carrying all these ****** books.
stevedallas
i dont see the need for this to be a unique npc. i prefer the idea of adding a storage mod for it but, feel that this is something that really shouldn't be a high priority. adding armor storage would be much more useful.
darted
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Originally Posted by Taisayacho
I would just make it a storage compartment. we only have, what, eight books? not worth a whole NPC
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