Improve look on Chaos Gloves

Phantom Flux

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For 10k, 75 ectos and 250 glitter dust, it's pretty expensive to get chaos gloves that look boring after a while. I know the mesmer gets its own style. It would be awesome if Anet would re-design the chaos gloves to look different for each class and would make sense.

They done that for the mesmers, now something just as cool for the other classes. If Anet decides to proceed, those who have already purchased a pair before the update can choose to turn his/her pair for the custom made version.

Parson Brown

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Don't much care, but I do wonder how the mesmer got different gloves...

ALF71BE

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What the fudge? No "The gloves suck, who cares"?

Lady Lozza

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As far as I know mesmers don't have different chaos gloves, as far as I know they just have different armour, meaning that the gloves go up to the sleeve of the dress and the rest are hidden.

Phantom Flux

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza View Post
As far as I know mesmers don't have different chaos gloves, as far as I know they just have different armour, meaning that the gloves go up to the sleeve of the dress and the rest are hidden.
Still it gave the mesmer and different, yet elegant look. They gotta do something similar with the other classes Even with the other gloves.

Joshgt2

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75 ecto is a hefty price... Maybe if it changed to like 75k and 5 ecto it would be a bit more reasonable. Just having that thought of a lot of ecto kills just about anything for any player...

Lady Lozza

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Oz

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Yes but it looks half way decent because of mesmer armour, not because the gloves are different.

What would you propose as changes for each of the classes? Remember that to fit with the "chaos" theme they need to be that bright glowy thing. Do you suggest eles have glowy handwraps in the skin of say aeromancer gloves? For monks to get handwraps of glowy stuff complete with dangling bits.

It doesn't matter what way you spin it the gloves are still going to look silly in a good 80% of cases. Once again I say, the mesmer gloves aren't different, what is different is their armour style. They put no extra work into mesmer chaos gloves.

The best you could hope for is to fix the "end" of the chest pieces to match up with the gloves.

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

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ALL mesmer gloves are short like that,where ALL other professions have normal gloves,thats why they got a slightly different look,it dosent really matter any ways..i have owned 4 sets of chaos gloves and ben happy with them looking the same.

Btw,if they change the price of chaos gloves to 75k+5e i quit...

pumpkin pie

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My observation:
The Chaos Glove isn't a glove at all, its a Glow effect on the character's hands. Most of the mesmer have long sleeves over the arm part clothing, thats why it looks different, try putting one on the sleeveless armor, it will look the same.

How to change this and hope it does not turns out uglier then it already looks. sparkle needs to be sparkling with the glove on, not without the glove and can't even see the character hands.

So here goes: sparklie the gloves of the existing glove that the character is wearing.

sparklie the gloves not make the glove unable to be seen in a bring light, or you know, some kind of glowing/sparkling effect surrounding the gloves/hands like the Elementalist's head gear.

Epic Monkey Battle

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slighty off topic, but do destroyer gauntlets work the same way on mesmers?

pumpkin pie

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destroyer if i observe correctly, is a totally different set of gloves.
actually no, looks like its also mapped/textured onto the hands

A11Eur0

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
My observation:
The Chaos Glove isn't a glove at all, its a Glow effect on the character's hands. Most of the mesmer have long sleeves over the arm part clothing, thats why it looks different, try putting one on the sleeveless armor, it will look the same.

No, it only goes to the wrists. Period. Because that's what mesmer gloves do.
they're not gauntlets, no mesmer gloves go halfway up the forearm, even the chaos gloves.

Lady Lozza

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The gloves that are common between professions are all exactly the same. They work the same way. You take off your character's gloves and then put the other gloves on. IF there is skin to show off the full length of the glove you get the full length of glove. IF there is only the hand uncovered (after the gloves have been removed) you will see only the hand of the new set of gloves you put on.

There is nothing tricky about this. There is NOTHING SPECIAL about mesmer gloves. They were not designed a different way, they do not work a different way, and at times you get to see some absolutely horrible clipping.

Pumpkin, while I would love sparkly stuff as much as any other I think that this would miss the point of "chaos" gloves which is to look at least a little like the chaos axe skin.

There are characters and armours with which the gloves work, or kind of work, and there are characters (read clasess) and armour sets which don't work. I'd be more in favour of hiring fashion police than changing a set of gloves that work the same way for all characters.

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No, it only goes to the wrists. Period. Because that's what mesmer gloves do.
they're not gauntlets, no mesmer gloves go halfway up the forearm, even the chaos gloves.
This actually suggests that it is a limitation with the character models. Which is interesting though not entirely surprising. Basically it can't be changed easily without messing with a lot.

realtalk916

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Originally Posted by Epic Monkey Battle View Post
slighty off topic, but do destroyer gauntlets work the same way on mesmers?

yeah, and it looks great!

i like the chaos gloves how they are, its no different on mesmers, just the sleeves cover it to where just the hands glow. looks neat though doesnt it?

Asda che ti Passa

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Originally Posted by Joshgt2 View Post
75 ecto is a hefty price... Maybe if it changed to like 75k and 5 ecto it would be a bit more reasonable. Just having that thought of a lot of ecto kills just about anything for any player...
Gloves are "exclusive" if u cant afford is useless asking for a reduction of the price just because if everyone has chaos gloves there is no sense to spend money on them.

Anyway Anet will never reduce the price of gloves so dont dream.

MStarfire

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My only problem is that with certain (several, actually) dye combos, the majority of the arm becomes transparent. Something in the dye programming is screwing with alpha channels pretty hard.

Owik Gall

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This is only an opinion, not a suggestion. First off, if they made the chaos gloves specific for each class, like armored gauntlets for warriors, or leathery gloves for rangers. They'd still have the bright texture, though. Speaking of bright texture, why not add more detail to the gloves? Like have colored aura to the gloves that match the dye color. Just a thought.

Shadowhaze

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"Exclusive?" LOL

But yeah, they're a waste as far as I'm concerned.

Anyhow, Mesmer gloves are all short to the wrist as said. The gloves/armors are all set to be the same way/style. If they changed these, people might start complaining about changing every other armor.

RiceCream

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chaos golves look bad on every class except Mesmers and Monks. for most other armor combos on other classes, the sleeves end in awkward areas and gloves just look lame. re-skinning every chest piece that has sleeves would be a lot of work though.

Phoenix Tears

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wind fire and ice View Post
ALL mesmer gloves are short like that,where ALL other professions have normal gloves,thats why they got a slightly different look,it dosent really matter any ways..i have owned 4 sets of chaos gloves and ben happy with them looking the same.

Btw,if they change the price of chaos gloves to 75k+5e i quit...
who the ****** hell cares about that?

Care more for the non ultra rich people anet !!!

Eragon Zarroc

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definitely re-design them according to player proffesions and gender. with warrior armor, they cut off the regular armor at the elbow and look ridiculous. not to mention, all the chaos gloves look glitchy from certain viewing angles

HawkofStorms

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The main problem is this or any other retroactive changing of an armor/weapon....


Many people bought chaos gloves because they like them the way they look now. Changing them might risk making them look "worse" in some people's opinions who have already bought them. This will lead to people being very upset.


Simply put, if you like something, buy it. If you don't don't.
Please don't try to change something you don't own to make you like it.

Dr.Jones

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no thanks we dont need any more e-pen flaunting in gw. there is already way to much of it.

Shooshu

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Nah, it should stay as it is....

Mesmers are special, and special prof get special stuff...

Live with it.

A11Eur0

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
The main problem is this or any other retroactive changing of an armor/weapon....


Many people bought chaos gloves because they like them the way they look now. Changing them might risk making them look "worse" in some people's opinions who have already bought them. This will lead to people being very upset.


Simply put, if you like something, buy it. If you don't don't.
Please don't try to change something you don't own to make you like it.

Sorry but seeing "many" combinations of armor with chaos gloves, I'm going to have to disagree here. Many, if not most people bought chaos gloves to show off.

I bought mine to fit my idea of my mesmer's materialistic nature...figured hey i have the ectos, i'm not getting more obsidian armor in the near future, might as well have some fun with it. Bought the gloves on the ONLY profession in my mind that deserves chaos gloves because they're fugly on everything else.

Make them match the general fitting and shape of the profession's standard gear. Make these eotn gloves actually match up with the chestpieces for that profession.

daraaksii

daraaksii

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Improve? No.
Try to create some new ones? Maybe.

If they change the look of chaos gloves, then others will complain about loosing their super-looking gloves.

There's a reason why people bought it. And the reason is that they like how it looks.

Nothing more to say.

~daraaksii

Riley Proximo

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They look nice enough, I woudn't really see a point.

Phantom Flux

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The chaos gloves are boring and are only to show off. If Anet improves the design, players who already bought it can trade their old gloves for the new ones if they wish to.

blackknight1337

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears View Post
who the ****** hell cares about that?

Care more for the non ultra rich people anet !!!
I lol'ed...if 75 ecto for you is ultra rich, you are baaadd.

A11Eur0

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75 ecto to blow in one spot for most players of GW is a lot. Spending all day farming UW and spamming in Kamadan doesn't make you a good player, and that's pretty much the most reliable way of getting said 75 ectos to blow on one set of gloves.

blackknight1337

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
75 ecto to blow in one spot for most players of GW is a lot. Spending all day farming UW and spamming in Kamadan doesn't make you a good player, and that's pretty much the most reliable way of getting said 75 ectos to blow on one set of gloves.
My point was made of 2 separate points really.

1) If you think that someone who has 75 ecto is rich, you are clueless. There are people who I know who have thousands of ecto, enough said.

2) If you are decent at pvp, you'll have more than 75 ecto. Thus the "bad" comment. Hell, you can get 50 ecto a month in 5 min if you read the predictions threads on this very forum and make decent predictions.

And to answer your post, I do neither of the things which you mention. My money comes in from predictions, farming event drops, and buying at opportunity in towns. None of these are hard to do, or complicated in the slightest.

If you are smarter than your average player, then go ahead and do UWSC or sit and spam in kamadan. Tried both, don't really care for either.

If you are incapable of making money to buy chaos gloves with things the way they are, you are simply stupid and/or bad at playing the game.

Wetader

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Wouldn't be bad to have different chaos gloves, in my opinion. It's the reason why I never bought it- being the same and doesn't really go with other armors for male characters.

I suggest glowing tattoos on monks & Necromancers, and for warriors a gauntlet similar to "Rastigan the Eternal"

Shadowhaze

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To some people 75 ecto is a lot, so saying they're clueless isn't necessary. It depends on the person - what they think is a lot or not. Perhaps they are unaware of ways and means to get "rich." It would help more if they were pointed toward the right path than calling them bad and clueless. That kind of mentality is pretty sad, imo, and detracts from the game.

But anyway, I don't see a problem with them how they are now.

Tar Ionwe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowhaze View Post
To some people 75 ecto is a lot, so saying they're clueless isn't necessary. It depends on the person - what they think is a lot or not. Perhaps they are unaware of ways and means to get "rich." It would help more if they were pointed toward the right path than calling them bad and clueless. That kind of mentality is pretty sad, imo, and detracts from the game.
I'm pretty sure Blackknight was just meaning that if you think that 75e makes you uber-rich than you don't know about people who have thousands of ecto. And he also said a few ways that you could get richer. Predicting in the tournaments can get you some money. It doesn't take much to do it either. Which I agree with him, I have never considered myself uber rich yet I have Chaos gloves. It is like anything else nice in the game, if you really want it it will take a little time to get it. If you can't afford them than you just can't get them, don't say that Anet should make them cheaper just for you. (And Shadowhaze, I'm not attacking you with what I said above. Some other people had mentioned making them cheaper earlier.)

But back to the main point, yes I think they should redesign the gloves. I have a set for my monk and I don't really care how they look right now. Maybe if they didn't go so far up the arm then they would be a bit better.

kostolomac

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The gloves are already designed for the other profs , but they look best on mesmers because they are the only class whose hand/arm armor is at their wrist and not higher. It would be harder to do that for the other profs since all their armor need to be changed.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

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12chars on redesigning them for each specific class. Kind of what I was saying earlier. I'll /sign to that.

Phantom Flux

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/signed Anet, get to work!

Arduin

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How would redesigning the gloves prevent them from becoming 'boring after a while'? The problem is they aren't special anymore, because nearly every third person you see is wearing them. Even if every profession and gender gets a different version, it would still be the single most piece of armor you will encounter on other players.

Boomer1941

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooshu View Post
Nah, it should stay as it is....

Mesmers are special, and special prof get special stuff...

Live with it.
LOL...I like that!

I put them on my Male Mes with Black Vabbian Armor and he does look cool and not too gaudy like some professions. I have them on my Female Derv and Female Ele only because of their white armor, anything else and I know they'll look bad. Alot of characters in the game with chaos gloves look really bad, like driving a an old beatup rusted out Cadillac with a 5k set of spinners on it. Before spending the money try to visualize what your character is going to look like before hand and not be disappointed, this is expensive stuff.

Mordiego

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Originally Posted by Phantom Flux View Post
/signed Anet, get to work!
signed ur own thread? Interesting.

On the topic: Anet won't change the appearance of an existing in game items just coz someone feels they are boring after a while. Period.

If they change anything it's just because of either clipping issues or overpowered feature. Period.

Close this ridiculous thread, please.