New player, not enjoying GW

nefootball80

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2008

I bought GW today from gamestop to give it a try, I seem to just be walking around and killing stuff, there are no "new" quests or whatever, it's really boring.

I also made a PVP only character and that wasn't very fun either.

Am I doing something wrong? What's the fun part?

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

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Well my friend - you are missing something, because there are lots of quests to do... in fact that is the best way to gain experience and to level your character up. Look for \people with green thingies over their heads for starters.

Also, try the guildwiki for tips on starting out.

Messy

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

Guildless

R/

You are probably not seeing the NPC's that give quests. Most posts/towns will have somebody with the green exclamation mark, talk to them. Check your Quest Log - L -.

You can also get some information on the wikis, as the user above told you:

Unofficial Wiki
Official Wiki

It's a great game, hopefully you will enjoy it.

Good Luck!

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Starting out in PvP isn't a good idea for anyone new to the game, even if you were to buy all of the unlock packs.

Stick with PvE, and I'm sure there are things that you've missed. GW is still a great game for new players.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Which campaign did you buy? There are three - Guild Wars (called Prophecies now), Factions and Nightfall.

If you have started a character in the first campaign, then you are in pre-searing. Beautiful, but somewhat boring for many players. This is not the whole game, just the tutorial. But do as many quests as possible prior to leaving so that you level up. Foes get much harder to kill as you move along into the main part of the game.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Also, don't try to "rush" the game. You have plenty of time to try it out. I wouldn't judge it right off the bat. It's not really fair. There is no monthly fee so you can take as much time as you need.

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

Always pay attention when you complete a quest cause there is usualy a reference that will lead you to the next.

Also, as mentioned above, look at wiki whenever you get 'stuck'
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page . After getting to the main page type quests to see quests or missions to see what missions are available to you

On the main page a search for quests gets you to this page:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page . All quests for each campaign can be selected there.

There are lots and lots of quests/missions and the game gets better and better as you get into the story and gain skill as a player.

Have fun

Ant

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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Another problem might be that your playing alone, this game was built for team play.

Find a quest then ask for somebody else that is also on that same quest to join you. That will improve the fun aspect a great deal as you can learn about teamwork and how if functions in GW. The farther you go the larger your part size will become till you hit a max of 8 for most of PvE. Two elite zones take 12 and then PvP has many different sizes.

Lastly you should look for an active guild, that is a very good way to get real help when you need it and to learn from those that know what not to do.

Ralgha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Honestly there is nothing more to GW than killing stuff. There is no crafting, fishing, traveling, inventing, exploring, etc. All of the quests are variations of the killing theme. Kill stuff here, kill different stuff there. Go here, but that requires you to kill stuff to get there. You can't walk anywhere without killing stuff to get there (or running from stuff trying to kill you).

There are very few puzzles to solve (there are a few), mostly it's just kill stuff. That's about it. Primarily why I stopped playing, it got boring. No I didn't do everything there is to do, but I finally realized that it's all the same anyway. Kill stuff.

Dae GW

Dae GW

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Netherlands, Noord Holland, Amstelveen

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Honestly there is nothing more to GW than killing stuff. There is no crafting, fishing, traveling, inventing, exploring, etc. All of the quests are variations of the killing theme. Kill stuff here, kill different stuff there. Go here, but that requires you to kill stuff to get there. You can't walk anywhere without killing stuff to get there (or running from stuff trying to kill you).

There are very few puzzles to solve (there are a few), mostly it's just kill stuff. That's about it. Primarily why I stopped playing, it got boring. No I didn't do everything there is to do, but I finally realized that it's all the same anyway. Kill stuff.
Wow, YOU seriously haven't played GW the way you have to do it. Let me think, you have done all the campaigns with heroes and henchies in Hard Mode? Vanquished all area's without a guild team? Never done things like HA or GvG ? Never have been in a core team to do UW SC or other elite area's?

Because i think you've really, really missed the teamwork aspect of Guild Wars. This especially comes out in PvP like Team Arena's, Heroes' Ascent and GvG. Where you will most of the times lose all battles because lack of teamwork. But it's not only PvP. When doing elite area's with a guild without any form of communication you're team probably wont be that efficient because everyone is going his own way. The team should act as one, not as 8 individuals.

Oh, and by the way, there ís actually an explorer title.

Dae

P.S You've actually played too much runescape too i guess; Fishing, crafting

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

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Originally Posted by Dae GW View Post
Wow, YOU seriously haven't played GW the way you have to do it. Let me think, you have done all the campaigns with heroes and henchies in Hard Mode? Vanquished all area's without a guild team? Never done things like HA or GvG ? Never have been in a core team to do UW SC or other elite area's?

Because i think you've really, really missed the teamwork aspect of Guild Wars. This especially comes out in PvP like Team Arena's, Heroes' Ascent and GvG. Where you will most of the times lose all battles because lack of teamwork. But it's not only PvP. When doing elite area's with a guild without any form of communication you're team probably wont be that efficient because everyone is going his own way. The team should act as one, not as 8 individuals.

Oh, and by the way, there ís actually an explorer title.

Dae

P.S You've actually played too much runescape too i guess; Fishing, crafting
Even if Ralgha didn't experience the teamwork aspect, he wouldn't be happy (or as happy as we are). This is not the game for him, and he is not wrong for that. When you do PvP or Guild PvE, you're only killing things and trying not to get killed; working as a team, but the objective is the same.

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

I first got the game almost 3 years ago. I kept making new characters, and played war/necro/monk/ranger to lvl 10 or so.

Prophesies blows hardcore, tho - and I was unable to figure out the (cities w/) mission deal. so I got stuck, and ended up leveling characters to 15 against lvl 10 mobs, and not able to move on, all the while re-exploring the same nub areas...

Obviously now I know the fault - but if you're new, do nightfall or factions. Far superior, and more logical. Harder to get stumped like you clearly can in 'oldskul' GW.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

GW is not an mmorpg. it is not an alternative to your real life, so it obviously won't have useless things like finishing/crafting/mining/farming/marriage/havingkids/gotothecrapper/etc, all of which are designed to waste your time and make you pay more monthly fees. fortunately, GW doesn't have that either.

GW is an action game. if you don't like action games, then don't play it.

tmakinen

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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GW is a real time sword&magic combat simulator with a skill system that closely resembles the MtG card game. The fun is supposed to be derived from unlocking new skills for your 'deck', and on the next stage learning to use those skills. Unlike with a typical MMORPG, most of the actual improvement will happen between the chair and the keyboard. Some like it, some don't.

Personally, I don't understand the allure in paying a monthly fee for the privilege of wasting hours on end in watching a bunch of pixels trying to catch virtual fish. Hence GW.

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

Moriz & Dae imo summed it up perfectly

Guild wars is not forcing you to do anything other than play the game games such as wow (just using it as a example dnt take offence) want to keep you hooked with as Moriz said useless things such as crafting etc etc it’s the same with runescape tons of pointless sizzle to keep you playing and paying the fees like a good little boy. Guild wars is all about teamplay if you go off and do kill this kill that move over there etc then you are not playing the game ‘right’ and I suggest you uninstall now Find yourself a good guild meet new ppl find out that you like them and then you will find that GW gives you scenarios in which you can play with these people and make your way through the game.

I wish you luck but it seems to me like you wont enjoy this game jumping into the world of guru when you just bought the game normally spells Epic fail imo.
Just go back to/go to runescape and mine/fish/craft/kill/have a house or whatever those peeps do now.

@tmakinen

Likewise for me wow was fun when i was on my free trial but games are never worth paying by monthly imo.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

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Honestly there is nothing more to GW than killing stuff. There is no crafting, fishing, traveling, inventing, exploring, etc.
Thank god, I hate runescape lol

Maybe guild wars 2 will have knitting, basket weaking and jam making skills available, hopefuly not though

Ps. Cartographer??? whats your definition of exploring?

Sweet Mystery

Sweet Mystery

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Shadow Hunters Of Light [SHOL]

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Originally Posted by Zebideedee View Post
Maybe guild wars 2 will have knitting, basket weaking and jam making skills available
You didn't put them in the GW2 suggestions bit did you? Then again if you did the grannies would swarm to GW2 and we'd have a ton of new players...

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dae GW View Post
Wow, YOU seriously haven't played GW the way you have to do it. Let me think, you have done all the campaigns with heroes and henchies in Hard Mode? Vanquished all area's without a guild team? Never done things like HA or GvG ? Never have been in a core team to do UW SC or other elite area's?

Because i think you've really, really missed the teamwork aspect of Guild Wars. This especially comes out in PvP like Team Arena's, Heroes' Ascent and GvG. Where you will most of the times lose all battles because lack of teamwork. But it's not only PvP. When doing elite area's with a guild without any form of communication you're team probably wont be that efficient because everyone is going his own way. The team should act as one, not as 8 individuals.

Oh, and by the way, there ís actually an explorer title.

Dae

P.S You've actually played too much runescape too i guess; Fishing, crafting
Say what you like, he's right, all you do is kill stuff.

Shemsu Anpw

Shemsu Anpw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Sephirot - Keter

Killing stuff? Well that is in all the games listed so that isn't a down side its merely a fact. Saying there is only killing though as a reason is just plain silly. I personally hate complex crafting in games, and fishing which is at the whim of the deveopers codes of "chance." Though if that is what you like then great but that is not GW. i'm sorry you are not having fun in GW it is a great game. Aside from the trollers. Get-out of Pre-searing and Prophecies gets better.

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

I suppose you could say all you do is kill stuff........ GW is pretty much based upon killing snizzle its true in games like runescape you never have to kill anything just mine mine mine etc etc. True there is no mining / forging /knitting/other things that should be left for RL in GW Its purely fantsy.

However GW is a team game and you can hardly host annual knit offs. Winning pvp battles in GW is just a wonderful feeling and the same goes for pve you are given a challenge and you overcome it.


At the end of the day you are meant to be "A young hero of Tyria" and young heroes do not knit/mine/forge they face challenges and overcome it.
For example Dungeons in Eotn require a little bit of planning before you head off you have to plan the team build and then overcome the obstacles within the dungeon using the build and your own skill.

All in all GW is a very retro game You team up with firends and go out and kill things with your own skill at playing.

Imo its very fun... perhaps its not your cup of tea... so wasted £15 then

killerbot3009

killerbot3009

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

the beaster

the Gold Fish [GOLD]

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how long have u been playing for, cos it took me a while to find the fun stuff like UW, GvG HA, TA

The Red Messenger

The Red Messenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

America

for me, the fun part was killing stuff with guild mates or friends on vent. its all about playing with the right people. just guild hop until you find the right one, and convince a couple real life friends to buy the game

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

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Originally Posted by Lykan View Post
Say what you like, he's right, all you do is kill stuff.
he is rite

but gw has one of the best rpg combat systems around

its not bout tryin to grind to high levels
its not bout tryin to find the best gear to pimp out ur character
its not bout crafting, or fishing, or tryin to make a living

its all bout the fighting
strategically planning and skillfully executing to win

of course it does have some of these "traditional" rpg elements to a degree
but at its core
gw is a competitive combat-based rpg

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

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Originally Posted by snaek View Post
he is rite

but gw has one of the best rpg combat systems around

its not bout tryin to grind to high levels
its not bout tryin to find the best gear to pimp out ur character
its not bout crafting, or fishing, or tryin to make a living

its all bout the fighting
strategically planning and skillfully executing to win

of course it does have some of these "traditional" rpg elements to a degree
but at its core
gw is a competitive combat-based rpg
Gotta agree with this.

Plus at the start the game might seem a bit dull and slow paced. Later on it might get more intense in some missions. Play a bit longer and see how you feel.

Crystal Lake

Crystal Lake

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Mo/

Yes, I agree with most of the above. GW is really a stragegy game IMHO. When I first started that's pretty much all I did is run around and kill things. Then I joined a helpful guild and the players showed me the many different levels of the game. I'm still learning too. Maybe GW is like an onion where there are many layers to uncover. Running around and killing things is just the first layer.

Dae GW

Dae GW

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Netherlands, Noord Holland, Amstelveen

Mo/

First of all guys, i want to clear some stuff up. Did i ever mention that he wasn't right about his opinion? I agree with him, you have to kill stuff. But it's about the way you do it. It feels great when you have made alot of preparations and when you're playing the whole team is in harmony, and stuff work out great. Not just go here kill that mob, go there kill that mob.

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how long have u been playing for, cos it took me a while to find the fun stuff like UW, GvG HA, TA
I've played GW for 1 year and 1 month right now, with 1 month skip or smth like that.

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Maybe GW is like an onion where there are many layers to uncover. Running around and killing things is just the first layer
I LOVE the way you say this. And i think you are totally right, this is the answer to everything in this thread imo. ( except the ridiculous stuff about mining and fishing -,- )

Dae

a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan View Post
Say what you like, he's right, all you do is kill stuff.
any game that is Fantasy, including wow, FF online, D&D, or any other MMO Game is all about the kill stuff, so just accept it or stop playing

ecirbaf

ecirbaf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

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Originally Posted by tmakinen View Post
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Personally, I don't understand the allure in paying a monthly fee for the privilege of wasting hours on end in watching a bunch of pixels trying to catch virtual fish. Hence GW.
Let's hope Guild Wars 2 will honour that! Fingers crossed... GW is such a unique game.

ps: to answer more in line with the topic some players find GW boring. I have a friend playing Lord of the Rings Online (aka "LOTRO") and GW, but another who will play any MMO but finds GW boring.

My conclusion is

1. GW is a difficult game. MMO's are for newbies: mass buttons, collect loot, mash buttons, level up, rinse repeat until level 80. It's like everything is alreadty planned for you and you just run after the carrot.

2. GW on the other hand has no feel of a permanent world. But then, my friends who don't like GW, let's face it... they don't like it because they can't immerse themselves enough. In other words, the drug is not hard enough for them. At least that's my perspective.

For me GW sometimes is too simplified. Those damned invisible walls everywhere. The scenery is so cool and you can't climb those stairs, can't jump, can't get closer to the huts and the trees etc. Even as it is, if the game provided more interaction with the environment it would be way more immersive. So it has that arcade feel at times. I used to hate that key icon in the dungeons, it looks like you're playing Mario Bros or something. But GW is so awesome in many other ways; I can live with it.

Ralgha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

I played GW for 2 years or so, I don't know exactly how long because I don't care. I own all the chapters/expansions. I had great fun with it for quite a long time, and I've done most everything there is to do. I haven't completed everything, but I've tried most of it.

Cartographer is not exploring, you do it once and that's it. Real exploring always has new things to search out.

Say what you want, there is nothing to GW aside from killing. That satisfies some, doesn't satisfy others. It used to satisfy me, then I got bored of it, pretty much overnight. It's all the same to me, different monsters, skills, and tactics (to some extent), but it's all the same. What annoyed me the most is that I always had to fight to get where I wanted to go. Want to do Frostmaw? Damn, gotta fight my way there. Slavers? Damn, baddies on the way. Sorrows Furnace? More baddies between me and it. Yeah you can run to it, but you get the point.

GW doesn't even have trading, unless you want to sit in a town and spam WTS or WTB all day long. They should have added some sort of marketplace a long time ago.

A game that has the other stuff but doesn't require you to do them is a game I like. I've never played WoW or Runescape, and don't intend to, so I don't know, or care, if they fit that bill or not.

Ralgha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Originally Posted by a-kyle View Post
any game that is Fantasy, including wow, FF online, D&D, or any other MMO Game is all about the kill stuff, so just accept it or stop playing
Oh I play an MMO, but it's not Fantasy.

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

RTFM

that's really all there is to say here.

Dimitrius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

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I will so join a knitting guild in GW2.
XD