No skill balance this month?

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Not that it would be good, but is there going to be one?

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

It's probably next week. Linsey said something about a new build then.

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

W/

Darn, I have a bunch of zaishen keys saved up in anticipation of the new tonic. Was really hoping for the update today.

/uninstall

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

<--has come to expect updates during the second Thursday of the month. If there is one, it'll be then, when the update anything else and hand out the tourney points.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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I'm still waiting for the skill update from last month.

And then I was still waiting for...

I'm still waiting for a skill update for pre-Factions.

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

yea there commitment of the first Thursday of every month has proven to be wrong time and time again if you haven't learned that by now i dont know what game you have been playing....

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

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well u'd think they'd be able to make the 1st thursday for small and minor updates

big updates like last month was understandable

unless anet is tryin to say that this months update is also quite big?

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

updates have ben on the second week for quite a while,it isnt any thing special...

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Wait... what's the big update this month again?

Seriously, as if Zkeys + Wintersday isn't enough.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

It makes more sense that the update would be next week. They will probablly include the skill bonus and the reward points along with the wintersday update.

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

wintersday!!! woot!!!

DarklingKiller

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA

Quit

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See thread
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10341283

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Actually they've been doing the skills on the first thursday and the other stuff on the second one. That's why I think there isn't going to be one because they've made no attempt to let us know it's going to be pushed back a week.

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

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what about that HOM update they quietly dismissed?

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

That HoM update can wait since Wintersday is going to begin shortly. I'm sure Linsey is busy enough as it is with getting things ready for the big, annual event.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Actually they've been doing the skills on the first thursday and the other stuff on the second one. That's why I think there isn't going to be one because they've made no attempt to let us know it's going to be pushed back a week.
No, its pretty much been the second Thursday. When there are big updates being pushed out(like the last 2 months) they have split the skills and the main meat of the updates into two. Since there's nothing new in the Wintersday update(except the hats), well not likely anything new, its not a big big enough update to warrant splitting them.

As for HoM updates, no mention that they've been "dismissed." Of course, there's also never been a release date for them so the constant whine about them not showing up is getting pretty old.

What Now

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame View Post
No, its pretty much been the second Thursday. When there are big updates being pushed out(like the last 2 months) they have split the skills and the main meat of the updates into two. Since there's nothing new in the Wintersday update(except the hats), well not likely anything new, its not a big big enough update to warrant splitting them.

As for HoM updates, no mention that they've been "dismissed." Of course, there's also never been a release date for them so the constant whine about them not showing up is getting pretty old.
Uh no, look back, skill updates have been the first Thursday the last month or few with bug fixes then the NEXT one is the actual game update. Otherwise I wouldn't of bothered reading this wondering yea I'm home from work wtf happened to my update. When them saying updates will be on Thursday isn't a release date what is? A timer to the millisecond of the next update? If you don't know anything don't bother posting.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Oh well, the Thursday updates are nothing compared to Wintersday. ^_^

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

They switched it to the 2nd Thursday of each month so they can do the reward points in the same build. reward points are given out 2 weeks after the mATs.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

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They could have at least updated the AT rotation maps this thursday....

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

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Iv'e given up on skill updates. The meta has been noobish and stagnant for quite some time now. If Anet cared about this problem they would have likely included it in the last few skill updates, which were all jokes.

Sure there's that hope that they one day release a real balance update like they used to 2 years ago, but its highly unlikely. I would not be surprised if the pattern of only having 2~4 skill changes per update that ultimately never accomplish anything continue until the day the servers go offline.

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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heres wuts anet's gonna do for update. yall rdy for this?

1. nerf skill so bad that mending can laugh at it
2. change a skill completely from wut it did before
3. not buff anything important
4. ???
5. profit

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk View Post
heres wuts anet's gonna do for update. yall rdy for this?

1. nerf skill so bad that mending can laugh at it
2. change a skill completely from wut it did before
3. not buff anything important
4. ???
5. profit
It'll be a Warrior skill nerf, Dervish enchantment under Mysticism for change, Raptors will still be allowed for genocide and we can all profit from Wintersday coming up!

At least, that's my prediction.

VforVindictive

VforVindictive

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

USA

Hey Mallyx [icU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
I'm still waiting for the skill update from last month.
Did you not see: Update - Thursday, November 6, 2008? Chyyyeck it son.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by What Now View Post
Uh no, look back, skill updates have been the first Thursday the last month or few with bug fixes then the NEXT one is the actual game update.
Quote:
When there are big updates being pushed out.. they have split the skills and the main meat of the updates into two.
So, I'm wrong how?

wire dawg

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

happy guild moor [hgm]

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here let me end this go read lindsey's journal update is next week

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

WTS Elite Frenzy PST

Knight O Cydonia

Knight O Cydonia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

No Goats No Glory [BAAA]

Me/

Maybe it's been put on hold due to the ESL Final tomorrow.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

So I am guessing it's happening in 14 days?
Since this month almost started with a Thursday and considering how busy they are and given the fact that they've gotten used to needing 14-ish days ...

The big question really is - when will the updates start dropping so late that we're going to end up with a month skipped?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
The big question really is - when will the updates start dropping so late that we're going to end up with a month skipped?
When this month's update is delayed until the first week of next month.

And then we have an update on the first Thursday of the month. Rejoice.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Why is everyone flipping out? Since May, every skill update has been on the second Tuesday of the month except in November, and that was on account of the GSL finals - Izzy didn't want to release a large skill update two days before a major third-party event.

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by nightow View Post
wait... What's the big update this month again?

seriously, as if zkeys + wintersday isn't enough.
/bingo

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Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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Meh, unless the give something new cool and interesting its still gonna be the same old stuff.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Some Guru-ers are desperately in need of patience. I mean, what's the big deal with something being this week, next week or even next months? Why can't people just sit and relax, take things as they happen instead of putting their expectations first?

WTS Patience, whisp offer.

DreamWind

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
Some Guru-ers are desperately in need of patience. I mean, what's the big deal with something being this week, next week or even next months? Why can't people just sit and relax, take things as they happen instead of putting their expectations first?

WTS Patience, whisp offer.
Yea...because waiting 2 years for Anet to balance their game isn't having patience.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Last month didn't clue you in to how some things might be late? lol

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
Meh, unless the give something new cool and interesting its still gonna be the same old stuff.
It'll be interesting and new. Cool is questionable.

Also, to extend on my previous post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by tehlemming View Post
Why is everyone flipping out? Since May, every skill update has been on the second Tuesday of the month except in November, and that was on account of the GSL finals - Izzy didn't want to release a large skill update two days before a major third-party event.
As someone mentioned earlier, ESL finals are this Saturday; Izzy's not going to release an update of this size just two days before another major third-party event.

The estimated release date for this balance has always been the 11th; it's mere speculation based on limited information that led to the faulty conclusion that it would have been released on the 4th.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Ketsu View Post
Iv'e given up on skill updates. The meta has been noobish and stagnant for quite some time now. If Anet cared about this problem they would have likely included it in the last few skill updates, which were all jokes.

Sure there's that hope that they one day release a real balance update like they used to 2 years ago, but its highly unlikely. I would not be surprised if the pattern of only having 2~4 skill changes per update that ultimately never accomplish anything continue until the day the servers go offline.
Do you have any idea what goes on in the metagame?

The First Silvari

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

No One Will Have Me

Mo/

Well... people have a right to demand what they have been told to expect. (updates on the first Thursday of the Month)Top it off this is a business releationship between consumers and merchant. Have you ever read the complaints of cutomers from any large business? Its natural and expected.

Updates increase the value of the product as it enhances the experience so of course people will want the updates to happen when ANet says they will be.

ANet drops the ball be creating expectation and not fulfilling them on a consistent basis. Customer relations need to get their act together and get infront of it by making announcements when things they have promised to do will be delayed and provide a reason.

For those who QQ at posts that complain... WTH did you buy this game for meh? Customer is always right?

Peace.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamWind View Post
Yea...because waiting 2 years for Anet to balance their game isn't having patience.
No it's not. Waiting 2 years quietly is patience.

I don't know where your priorities are, but 2years for a game is nothing to me. (sometimes I even wonder why it should be so long for gamer who have plenty of other games to play anyway) I'm not impatient because I'll take what I can get, when it's available. People bash Anet because of poor PR (announcing GW2 way too early), and I'm not going to "try to silence or censor people" who have the right to express their impatience, but I think it's deeply counter-productive (in the sense of the collective where we spend time reading this GW board). It's a game, why put expectations so high? I'd understand if it was a professional software which people use in their professional life, but not for a game.

Yes it's late, similarly to last month and to the GW2 beta. But then, why having to discuss it? I'd understand if it was about knowing whether someone didn't get the update because of, e.g., a bug. Or even if there was a month delay (i.e., no December update). But not for a short delay. People try to dissect these facts and start inferring what, say, Linsey is doing or not doing, what Regina should or should not say (haven't heard that one yet, it'd be nice but I won't take against her "delays" unless this issue becomes very hot), or the global strategy of Anet. It's mad, Anet is made of people trying their best to deliver, it's understandable given how they gave us a f2p MMO (let's not go back to the very-very-very-long discussion of the downfall of GW...) and are preparing for another big one.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehlemming View Post
Why is everyone flipping out? Since May, every skill update has been on the second Tuesday of the month except in November, and that was on account of the GSL finals - Izzy didn't want to release a large skill update two days before a major third-party event.
This.

The skill balance is more than likely going to be next week. Don't jump to conclusions because the skill update wasn't this week. There hasn't been a skill balance the first week of the month in a long time, I don't see why this thread was created.