Why does ArenaNet always nerf good farming spots?

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Reverend Dr
Reverend Dr
Forge Runner
#21
really?

Has Anet nerfed a farming spot since the griffons?

Oh, I'm sorry, putting rend enchantments in UW, that sure stopped farming there.
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dwc89
Frost Gate Guardian
#22
Go shadow form and cryway, team farming speed clears.
Anytime Anet speaks of "balance" , I laugh.
Farming is alive and well, in some places - while last years hot spots are pretty much barren of players.

Players either adjust or leave, pretty simple.
Avarre
Avarre
Bubblegum Patrol
#23
This isn't a game about making money.

Even so, there's always abusable ways.
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xanarot
Krytan Explorer
#24
You get ~1k/mission in NM and HM (500/500 misison/bonus in proph or 200/300/500 for normal/expert/master in others), excluding ~500-2k average on drops (depending on mission length, party size, high-value drops like golds/lockpicks). So say cantha which has 13 missions IIRC, thats 26k from missions and another 13-52k on drops. Ofc then there's the books, regular primary quests, 2x vanquish for the 10k faction on both sides.. You are quickly looking at 50-100k total from just playing the game.


The only reason left to farm nowadays is the obsidian set, since if its for GWAMM for titles you're better of doing Snowman's Lair over and over for 4-5 chests (giving lucky/unlucky/treasure/wisdom), dwarf rep, 2-4 [nm/hm] chest rewards (drunk/party/sweet).


Ironically, doing all missions in NM/HM, vanquishing everything and completing all NM/HM books as well as enough EotN HM books for the rep rewards will likely give enough money for that obsidian set. Sure it'll take longer, but what use is buying stuff first trough farming, finally ending up with a few 100k that you cant spend since you bought stuff already in the past.
Darcy
Darcy
Never Too Old
#25
ArenaNet doesn't need to nerf farming anymore. The players do it themselves. The areas quickly become overfarmed with the greens becoming worth less than 5k and not worth your time. Anyone for a set of Claws of the Broodmother?
Star Gazer
Star Gazer
Wilds Pathfinder
#26
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Originally Posted by xDusT II View Post
Guild Wars isn't a farming game
this made me lol. literally
Aera Lure
Aera Lure
Desert Nomad
#27
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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
1) Team game, that has been established.
Not anymore it isnt. I wish it was.

The only reason Anet nerfs specific farming spots or changes skills that hinder certain farming builds is to lessen the potential effects of over-farming on the economy. I have some doubts as to the effectiveness of that goal, as well as any sort of consistent approach given, for example, how long Ursan was left on the loose, but at least that it what they say. Were it just to hinder bots, there are other methods.
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Fay Vert
Desert Nomad
#28
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
Anet has never liked grinding.


Could have fooled me!

People have to farm to achieve the grind titles that ANet added as a poor cheap substitute for content. Your alternative is to replay the same game repeatedly, yawn. Sadly GW = Grind Wars.
ValaOfTheFens
ValaOfTheFens
Jungle Guide
#29
There are plenty of team farms and those spots get nerfed just as often as solo farming spots. Meh, I'm more concerned about skills being made unuseable just to twart farmers.
Jake_Steel
Jake_Steel
Lion's Arch Merchant
#30
Nerfed Farming?

Tell that to the bloody raptors... I feel sorry for the broodmother's uterus as she tries to keep up!
Arduin
Arduin
Grotto Attendant
#31
...because nerfing bad farming spots isn't very useful.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#32
Farming it's not forbidden, but neither encouraged.
If you want to farm, then farm, but don't expect to get rich in two days by doing so.

Farming it's something that Bots can usually make better than humans, and so, it's completely logical to limit what you get from it.
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oracle.delphi
Frost Gate Guardian
#33
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
...because nerfing bad farming spots isn't very useful.
lol this was epic


oh and QQ
Owik Gall
Owik Gall
Wilds Pathfinder
#34
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Originally Posted by daraaksii View Post
There would be hardly any players if they all leave after the nerfs.

Just think about it: the game is close to 4 years old, a lot of farm places got nerfed. We got used to it.

As Owik Gall said: Go find your own place and NEVER EVER share your build.

~daraaksii
Well, not sharing your farming build is a good advice. However, I said, in addition to finding your own spot, DON'T SHARE IT. That's why HFFF got nerfed because someone spilled the beans.
Zebideedee
Zebideedee
Jungle Guide
#35
Quote:
Farming it's not forbidden, but neither encouraged.
Lets face it some titles are only obtainable by farming for cash, surely ANet knows this.
Gun Pierson
Gun Pierson
Forge Runner
#36
Well the funny thing is that Anet nerfs after the damage has been done. Lets take for example Griff farming. Back in the days you could easely get 3 golds per run. Back then, a +30hp or 20/20 sundering was worth +30k. Now those upgrades are worth way less to the point gold drops in the desert are irrelevant. Especially those from prophecies as they are non inscriptable. On top the value of a weapon rarely exceeds 400 gold. The average value of golds around 280g a piece imo. Getting 3 crapp golds still gives a better feeling than receiving one white + one griffon wing for killing 20 griffs.

The fun factor of the game decreased over the years. The problem is that players first can enjoy the freedom for a long time. After the nerf comes into play, the game seems a little less fun again.

Now we get free Z-keys through predictions, but where is the fun in that? It takes 5 minutes to place your predictions and you receive around 80k. The gold you receive from the z-keys comes from other players and not for example the merchant. That's how Anet fixes things, let the players fight it out amongst themselves.

One might ask, where's the fun in doing an area over and over again? Getting gold drops and an enjoyable amount of crap. You kill an enemy and you take his posessions aka 'loot'.

Personaly, I reached the point of not having to farm to fulfil my gaming needs sorta speak. But I had plenty of fun with farming in this game the first two years before Anet really stepped in.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#37
My first reaction was: "Did Kepkhet move to Asuran lands already? About time." OP disappointed me.

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Originally Posted by dinocroc109 View Post
Can someone please explain it to me? it seems like the company discourages imaginative, easy ways to make money. After all, it can be viewed as their own fault for making farming possible. I quit this game permanently due to their actions of ruining the game and the fun factor.
Okay, so if I follow correctly:

Farming being possible is Anets mistake.
They remedied that error by nerfing X.
Hence, you quit.

Bravo!

(I wouldn't call following farming subforum and jumping to latest farming bangwagon imaginative myself. Next will be people that claim than SF sins are snowflake builds that need EPA protection. Wait a sec, that already happened.)
MirkoTeran
MirkoTeran
Forge Runner
#38
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinocroc109 View Post
I quit this game permanently due to their actions of ruining the game and the fun factor.
Someone has to say this, so... Can I have your stuff?
Crom The Pale
Crom The Pale
Furnace Stoker
#39
I must be a horrible player because I have only ever used one farm, and it has never been nerfed or changed in the slightest (not counting Hard Mode increasing gold drops).

I was still able to purchase FOW armor for my war back before Factions came out and have tonnes of high end weapons not to mention bought chaos gloves the day they were released.

I can earn about 1K every 10-15 minutes of playing. Sounds really crappy and yet after playing for 4000+ hours it does add up quite a bit.

The problem most people have with farming really has nothing to do with farming and everything to do with knowing how to manage their money.
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#40
Do not tell people where you farm lol.