Vanquishing Deldrimor Bowl

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

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I just recently started doing some vanquish with my Necro and I'm feeling the need to throw my PC out the window on this area. Simply because on the groups with 2 protectors I can't outdamage their heals, hell I'm lucky if I even get to lower their HP to 80%. I've tried a number of solutions, always H/H'ing, I've been running with a heavy physical team suited for the build I bring along, curses btw.

I have:

Talkhora, hybrid
Olias, MM
Gwen, tried shutdown, energy denial, interrupts, a few other builds...
Another Monk + Warrior or Ranger.

The 6 man limite is kind of a pain here, since the other areas I've vanquished always had 8. I have to rely on Olias for the physicals, otherwise it's just me and my spear.

Tried with Vekk as well, few other combinations, but I pure and simply cannot outdamage them. So I ask anyone whose done this area, any tips would be very apriciated, cause I can't even get past the very first group I encounter cause of the 2 monks... And there's groups with even more.

Lord Of Blame

Lord Of Blame

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

USA

Marked Souls [MkS]

E/N

Enchat strips, lots of enchat strips.

[[rend enchantments] should leave them open to a quick takedown, provided your team build is solid.

Zydonis

Zydonis

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

Loners United [CULT]

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Try a Broad Head Arrow hero.. I had no problems with the area.

Seraphim Angel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Sacred Knights of Orr [SKoO]

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See above posts. Something with a daze and strip enchaments.

Energy denial is pointless in PvE. Anet thinks its funny that casters can have infinate energy.

bobrath

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

Since you said you're running curses and didn't mention your Elite... (I figure you're running SS)

[Lingering Curse] is the best bet, but [Pain of Disenchantment] coupled with Gaze or Rend would be nice as well. Regardless of your Elite choice, be sure to drop [Soul Barbs] on the target as well.

I play as a ranger, so BHA comes with me on every vanquish. You might consider bringing [Technobable] on your bar for an easier daze - its just much shorter lived.

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

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Hi, when i did it, i did the whole thing from droks, with 8 man, also, if you having that much trouble, did you try cons???, from droks, you should be able to get 8 man group, also, have you tried from camp rankor, not sure but i think thats a 8 man party, if you need some help , i be glad to help you out, i run a ranger, can do all builds, and got all heroes maxed out, runed out, weaponed out, ussally on after 4:30 PM Eastern standard time ( usa), ign name is " Gwendolyn star '

faraaz

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

India

Hey Mallyx [icU]

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How do you enter deldrimor bowl from droks without entering beacon's perch (which is a 6 man area) ?

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

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Thanks for your help, I actually tried using Lingering Curse but I suppose I'll give it another try. Gonna try the BHA as well, tough conditions on this area are somewhat useless, since there's always at least 2 monks and each has [mend ailment] and [purge conditions], but Gwen might help me deal with the 2nd monk.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SNIEVES View Post
when i did it, i did the whole thing from droks, with 8 man, wtf haxors? how did u get around beacons? besides, that would be one entirely too long vanquish.

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

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k,

first when i did it which was way over a year ago, i did the whole thing in like the day, from droks all the way to beacons, i left with 8 man, party, nothing but heroes and henchies, i used a few cons on the way, but did not have any mayor dificulties, i cannot remmber every exact detail, but due not remmber anything mayor complications, i was on my ranger, and usally run Broadhead arrow, always take a interupt mesmer, with me in hardmode, cuase truly shine in hardmode, if by any chance, when i mapped in any area the party shrunk , im not sure, or did not notice, cause i was on a roll.

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

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Problem solved Snieves helped me out on that area, he knows what he's doing cutting through the mobs like butter. Done in little over an hour with no deaths, we had to waste about 15min searching for a group that we kept missing. Thanks for the help man

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

R/

hey kupp

Np man, if you get stuck again, give me a holler, when i was working on my guardian and vaanquishers titles, there wasn't many ppl out there doing , them, so, i ended up ,hero / henching them. good luck

Gwendolyn Star

ac1inferno

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

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- To receive credit for the Vanquisher title track in this area you must defeat 150-208 monsters in Hard Mode.
- If you are having trouble finding the last few enemies, try checking near the portal to Griffon's Mouth. There is sometimes a group of Ettins on the other side of the portal. Once in radar view they should start running towards you and eventually just disappear, giving you the Vanquish for this area if they were the last in the area. The Centaurs also patrol the map quite a bit so you may have missed a few while vanquishing the area.
- The rare material trader will buy things. This makes caravan vanquishing and titan quests easier.

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

6 snow ettins on the other side of the portal, that wont come running.
They are too far away.
Had no problem vanquishing the area with 6 man, but i finaly resorted to wiki after making 3 passes around an empty map. This bug is BS. Vanquished everything on the map...and 6 Ettins from the other side of the portal wont let me vanquish the map?? Cant even flag hench on the other side of the portal to agro them. What a waste of time.

TurinPT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ever since they buffed aura of faith that area has become ridicously hard, here how I did it: run in, hit sniper support, run out, repeat

awry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

oh lol, when i vanquished that area, i forgot enchant removals since i came in from a different area... I pretty much did it with lucky ebon vanguard sniper shots and energy attrition... needless to say it took a long time especially the double healer group w/ the healer boss >_< I had melee shutdown skills so I had a 15 minute deadlock fight until i could spike a healer that wandered out of the other monk's healing range.

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Feathermoore Clan

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Haha yea, if you go melee hate, this area will pwn you. That boss monk group is ridiculous. But with enchant removal or caster hate, this area isn't a problem.

But yea the normal triple necro build everyone loves definitely isn't the best option for this zone. I think i rolled with talkora prot hybrid, gwen and norgu as complete caster hate and rolled this zone.

gw_poster

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

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rolled this with guildies, I was BHA ranger, we had necro, ele, warrior, derv, and one monk - all human players...not entirely sure on what all of their bars were as but nec was not MM...there were a couple of tough goat-boy healer groups, one in particular had 4 shiverpeak protectors - but they were a bit stray from the mob so not too much damage from them but we had to pick a target to spike...overall 2 party wipes and we used 1 grail of might at some point, but can't remember exactly...not too hard, but a couple of annoying spots. I that same monk boss (jolo lightlaunch) spawns in Anvil Rock, too, which I found out the hard way the next day with H/H...last group in vanq at the top of that hill, jolo and 2 protectors, 2 warriors, and longbow...a couple of wipes later and had to quit to get back to work ....LFG Anvil Rock vanq (LOL)

Frozen Was Tara

Frozen Was Tara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Belgium

Mu Tants [MU]

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The ONLY way i was able to do it (some mobs even have 3 shiverpeak protectors) was Sniper Support mentioned above. This area is one of Anet's balance screwups. Getting down 3 Aura of Faith spammers seems to be nearly impossible.

Truly lovely area to vanquish...

Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ FINALLY!!! NEEEEXT protector! <repeat>

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Haha just finished it it was real fun.Did it as a part of my caravan VQ cant imagine what it looks like when 6-manned O.O.
Did it with sabway+henchies+DS SY warrior(me).Started from ToA.
Only thing i say is don't give up and have fun at the 4 protectors group
BTW anet should really balance this area it's awful...

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

This is the area that stopped my vanquishing frenzy about 4 months ago. Got really into it, flying through areas then was halted by a group with tonnes of healers. I know all I need to do is load up on caster hate, but its haaaaard.

Maybe I'll give it another go soon. I'll use the advice given on this page.

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

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Distillwell!


Hey , o noticed your post, i also run a ranger, and i susessfully vanquished this area, i know the 4 protector groups can be overwelming, i just recently helped kupp the tread starter a little while ago, i took 2 jagged bones, i healer, 2 mesmers(energy surge and power block builds), i healers boon monk, the other party, and myself, i ran this build: im the strongest, barrage, distracting shot, ebon assasasin support, pain inverter, lighting reflexes, troll ungent, rebirth, and i rolled the area, with out any major problems, i usally play in the evening 4:30 pm Eastern standard time(virginia), i be more thaan glad to give you a hand, if im on, and you would like help, last run i was with the tread starter kupp, took us a little over an hour, cause we spent like 15 - 20 minutes trying to find the last group which was a patrol.

Forgotton200

Forgotton200

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasgaliel View Post
Have you ever posted something not being a copy paste from wiki notes?


For this one I did a caravan vq from TOA. Then you have 8 man and this area is piece of cake. The only issue is having sufficient time for this type of vanquishing... I rather see the copy paste from wiki then the shitty quote like yours that doesn't even help at all. U mad?

warrior running

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Cape Is A Lie[Trim]

W/E

Congrats on completion I would have helped if u needed

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

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Hello


I have had a few PPL pm in game asking for how to vanquish this area, here goes, i play ranger and i run my own personal build, which is not important for this, but you need at : 1 good Minion master(jagged bones prefered), i bring 2 mesmers i hero mesmer with standard power block or energy surge builds(look at wiki), and the henchie mesmer, either mesmer can be substituded for a Bha ranger, but not both, 1 hero monk, i use healer boon build(wiki), and the 2 ele henchies thats preety much it, make sure you got a good long bow, and pull carefully, alow time for heroes and henchies to regen health and energy, good luck, and if you cant still cant get it, then give me a holler in game, if im avaliable, i come help you out, igame name : Gwendolyn Star.

Shemsu Anpw

Shemsu Anpw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Sephirot - Keter

Ugghhh I just finished that area a few days ago the 2,3,4, protector groups and the one with the monk boss healer groups were a royal pain. Then going over the map multiple times looking for the patrolling centaurs (2 patrols in my case) was awful. Though nothing compared to trying to do majestys rest. I get splatted on that center island (with rotscales and bone dragons) all the time finally gave up. Have to come back to that one. The Anvil rock one was a pain too looking for that last group of patrolling minatuars, went over the map several times.

Lustrouss

Lustrouss

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Shadow Dance

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I finished that area today with hammer warrior, Corrupt Enchantment necro (with heavy ench removals), Interrupt mesmer and the usual henchies healers and an ele. It was a pain just with the group with the healer boss and the two protectors around him. But this time I was targeting the warriors and they fell down easily.

lv42daze

lv42daze

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

ROCK

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I've tried this zone several times with 6 in H/H group with no luck, so I wandered over from from TOA with a H/H party of 8. I brought the Discordway build with one necro setup as enchant remover/interrupt. I also equipped another necro with Well of Profane (worked marginally). I found saving all the double, triple and quadruple protector groups until the end was helpful. Coming in thru the Griffon portal and heading NW and then going in a figure 8 pattern helped. This allowed me to pickup all the boss morale boosts, which came in quite handy. I did have to go back to the Griffon portal to get the Vanquish to appear (weird how that works).

Thanks to others in this thread for the advice on the enchant removal, etc,
IMO this is the key to vanquishing this zone regardless of party size

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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I took a caravan over from ToA to vanquish Deldrimor bowl last night. I'm not sure the builds I used were as good as they could be but they didn't fail me in the end. Still, some coordinated spikes were required to take down the protectors where there were more than one in a group. I used the following:

[build prof=E name="Human Ele" box Earth=12+1+3 Energy=12+1][Earth Attunement][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Ward Against Melee][Unsteady Ground][Stoning][Glowstone][Churning Earth]["You Move Like A Dwarf!"][/build]

[build prof=N/Rt name="Minion Master Hero" box Death=12+1+3 Soul=8+1 Restoration=10][Jagged Bones][Animate Bone Minions][Death Nova][Blood of the Master][Vengeful Weapon][Spirit Light][Life][Death Pact Signet (PvE)][/build]

[build prof=Me/N name="Domination Mesmer Hero" box Domination=12+1+3 Inspiration=8+1 Curses=10 Fast=2+1][Power Block][Cry of Frustration][Power Spike][Power Drain][Drain Enchantment][Diversion][Enfeebling Blood (PvE)][Rip Enchantment][/build]

[build prof=Mo/Rt name="Smite Monk Hero" box Smiting=12+1+3 Divine=10+1 Channeling=8][Ray of Judgment][Smiter's Boon][Smite Condition][Reversal of Damage][Scourge Enchantment][Ancestors' Rage (PvE)][Splinter Weapon][Heaven's Delight][/build]

+ Alesia (Uses [[Word of Healing] and the only Hench Monk there is in ToA.)

+ Little Thom (Out of Little Thom and Stefan, Thom comes out on top for me. Thom was used to make use of Splinter Weapon and Ancestors' Rage.)

+ Claude

+ Orion
Not sure if this would be possible without Claude and Orion and therefore starting from Beacon's Perch; I did mainly choose them because they were the best out of what was available and I'm not sure how much difference they made. I am quite a fan of Dunham, but given I already had my own Mesmer on this occaision I feel adding Dunham wasn't warranted.

Golestandt

Golestandt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sweden

[test]

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When I did my caravan vanquish from ToA through all the areas to Eastern Frontier (9 hours^^) there were two or three groups with many protectors giving me a little grief in Deldrimor's bowl.

Ran with discord-way (me as warrior) just kept switching targets until they started dying, not as challenging as Dreadnaught's Drift was.