Are the new books worth it?

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Here is what I think.

Flameseeker's Prophecies (NM and HM) = Junk exp.

Shiro's Return (NM and HM) = HM is definitely worth it, only 11 pages for all that factions. May not be as fast as faction farming though.

Nightfalls (NM and HM) = 17 pages, but HM gives 9000 LB points which is not so bad. Most probably not as fast as LB farming.

Young Heroes of Tyria (HM) = 13 pages, HM for only 4500 LB points. Meh...4 more pages for Nightfalls book above and I get double that.

What do you think?

Szymaa

Szymaa

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Super Zealous Youths

R/

Young Heroes is also worth 90k faction if you turn it in. Turning it in for LB points seems like a bit of a waste...

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Szymaa View Post
Young Heroes is also worth 90k faction if you turn it in. Turning it in for LB points seems like a bit of a waste...
If you consider HM Shiro's Return gives 120k factions for just 11 pages. Young Heroes 90k factions for 13 pages doesnt seem to be alot.

Besides, Young Heroes book needs HM on many of the 4-man team missions, which is a pain. Shiro's Return doesn't.

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

^ that is true, it seems overall shiro's return is probably the best book out of them all.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Not a good source of money

Vanquishing is better for Faction

But good to bring along when working on the titles.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daesu View Post
Besides, Young Heroes book needs HM on many of the 4-man team missions, which is a pain. Shiro's Return doesn't.
The missions you do for young heroes book are all easy. I'd rather do 4 man HM missions than go through Factions HM again. Factions has some really annoying missions.


Anyways, they aren't really worth going out of your way for, but if you're going through a campaign, they're great.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Every book is worth doing if you're doing something, or most of the items, the first time through.

The only one I'd consider redoing though is Shiro's Return in HM for the faction bonus, but I haven't found that to be as quick/easy/convenient as I might have hoped.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Every book is worth doing if you're doing something, or most of the items, the first time through.

The only one I'd consider redoing though is Shiro's Return in HM for the faction bonus, but I haven't found that to be as quick/easy/convenient as I might have hoped.
Ok, so I take that to mean faction farming is still faster.

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

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The only pain about Shiro's Return is Vizunah Square. It's quite hard in hardmode if you don't have the right build or get a group of henchies to join you. I keep doing them though.

Master Knightfall

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

Playing pvp is faster than all of that. Plus I earn zashien keys besides.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

What people seem to be missing is that you aren't meant to 'farm' the books to max Luxon/Kurzick or whatever else, unlike the EOTN books which give a good number of points per book (allowing easy title maxing). The point of these are to get a bonus for simply playing though the game, but in addition can give you a boost of points towards the rank required to display the title/s in HoM.

So they were never MEANT to be xbox hueg rewards, just as a free bonus, so I suppose they're quite worth it if you're playing through the game for the first time in NM/HM or going back through for Guardian (although other than that, they're not worth the time).

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
Anyways, they aren't really worth going out of your way for, but if you're going through a campaign, they're great.
This.

A nice addiction if you plan to go through a campaign. Nothing more.

Unless you're among those brainless nerds who claim to be able to fill 4 HM Shiro books a day, they're not worth "farming". Rewards are comparatively smaller when compared to anything out there.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Books are too slow. They are only useful if you are going through campaign. Shiros return HM takes around 4,5 hours and there are some nice missions such as eternal groove HM on the way... Vanquishing gives more: both money and faction..

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I won't bother with the Prophecies one, unless I decide to take a character through it that hasn't already done it.

Nightfall: Again, only if I want to run a character that's new to the continent. I'll stick to the wurms for Farming points.

factions: Since I'm using the Kurzick title for #30 (pre-survivor char ), it actually got me motivated to take ONE of my characters through the story line in NM. I don't think I could stomach doing that story-line more than that. But I'm spending most of my time vanquishing, since I've always enjoyed doing that and am getting some nice loot in the process. I do carry a book on my main for those occasions that I'm helping a guildie with a mission there.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aera View Post
The only pain about Shiro's Return is Vizunah Square. It's quite hard in hardmode if you don't have the right build or get a group of henchies to join you. I keep doing them though.
Minions!

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I've done about 10 Shiro's Return books and I've learned each mission inside out but it's not as efficient as Vanquishing areas like Morostav Trail. Once you tweak and optimize your builds, you can complete it in 30 minutes with 2 people and 6 heroes. That equates to about 24k Kurzick Faction which is 48k when you donate.

Three runs (1.5 to 2 hours), add 144k towards your title whereas Shiro's Return takes 3.5 to 4 hours and gives only 120k points.

Books, however, are a good method of farming points with a friend who is on the opposite allegiance.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Well i think theyre 'worth it'...your not forced to do them, they are extra if your doing the missiosn anyway. They actually attacted me to continue doing the hard mode missiosn and therefore i earned an extra bit of gold/xpr/rep along the way. Its the retroactive thread all over again - theyre not forcing you (as ive already said), if you have all the books think ones you actually 'need' to do.