I haven't played the game for a while and im just wondering are Warriors still good for PvE PVP and Farming? I say this because i made a Warrior before i left and want to know wether to continue using her or move onto Elementalist as this seems what a lot of people have done
TIA Boon
Are Warriors Still Viable?
boontheloon
BJuno
many ppl say yes..... but when the dervish arrived..well...
FengShuiDove
Each profession is going to be different at different things. Warriors aren't the best farmers anymore (as far as popularity and range of use go), but they have some great builds in both PvE and PvP.
faraaz
Depends what you want to do:
Farming - Assassin
Regular Pve/Pvp - Any class will do, so its not really that important
And if high end PvE like HM etc is your kind of thing, I'd highly recommend a Necromancer OVER an Elementalist, as they were pretty much designed for HM.
Farming - Assassin
Regular Pve/Pvp - Any class will do, so its not really that important
And if high end PvE like HM etc is your kind of thing, I'd highly recommend a Necromancer OVER an Elementalist, as they were pretty much designed for HM.
boontheloon
Thanks for the quick replies i have a Necro but im not overly keen on him he seems to die very easily 
FengShuiDove
Part of the fun, for me anyway, has always been finding how to play each profession to its potential. I prefer frontline characters myself, but it's good to know how the others function as well.
I don't know what games you have, but you've got at least 4 slots. No harm trying out a bit of everything =).
I don't know what games you have, but you've got at least 4 slots. No harm trying out a bit of everything =).
boontheloon
The most fun i ever had was with Assasin but getting refused entry to a party because a lot of people can't play them well did my nut in after a while :P
maraxusofk
in pve, go use paragon to tank. p/w doylak sig, adred skills and watch yourself.
Sirius-NZ
Warriors still work pretty well. I'd say they're more mainstream in PvP than PvE, but they still work there, even if the only truly spectacular build that comes to mind at the moment is FGJ DSlash.
Luminarus
@ maraxusofk - I hope you are joking...
@ Siruis-NZ - Earth Shaker build is very strong as well, with a reward that is proportional to ur ability at positioning urself.
And boon... make whatever class you want tbh. Pugs are no more apart from certain areas. As well as this, assassins are no longer the weak things they were before when you can blow mobs apart with [Critical Agility][Golden Pheonix Strike][Wild Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike]. Its the assassins insta win build.
Warriors however have many options, but for farming are near on obsolete. With the release of HM, almost all farms take place in HM. Warrior armor doesnt cut it as well in HM as NM, and so it doesnt have the survivability it did before. Current farms generally focus on invulnerability through shadow form, prot spirit, spirit bond, or vengeful was kanaai (solo farms that is). Team farms are currently revolving around [Cry of Pain], [Shadow Form] etc.
@ Siruis-NZ - Earth Shaker build is very strong as well, with a reward that is proportional to ur ability at positioning urself.
And boon... make whatever class you want tbh. Pugs are no more apart from certain areas. As well as this, assassins are no longer the weak things they were before when you can blow mobs apart with [Critical Agility][Golden Pheonix Strike][Wild Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike]. Its the assassins insta win build.
Warriors however have many options, but for farming are near on obsolete. With the release of HM, almost all farms take place in HM. Warrior armor doesnt cut it as well in HM as NM, and so it doesnt have the survivability it did before. Current farms generally focus on invulnerability through shadow form, prot spirit, spirit bond, or vengeful was kanaai (solo farms that is). Team farms are currently revolving around [Cry of Pain], [Shadow Form] etc.
matsif
earthshaker > hard mode...warriors do hammer the best so...
Master Knightfall
Warriors in many of the pvp arenas are worthless now. There are so many melee shutdown skills now it's funny. Blinding surge and other blinding skillls can quickly shutdown most warriors and you can have your fun just degening them to death or spiking them. The warrior day is done. Rangers are about the only physical class left with still overpowering skills an advantages to play.
yourbane
^ that is by far fail of what you just said
hammer warriors are used everywhere in pvp and are by far superior to rangers and dervishes
and if your warrior is getting shut down then your monk or ur rupters or your foul feast[ta / ra] is trash
hammer warriors are used everywhere in pvp and are by far superior to rangers and dervishes
and if your warrior is getting shut down then your monk or ur rupters or your foul feast[ta / ra] is trash
Konig Des Todes
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If you want a tank with good damage - go Dervish. Scythe and enchantments for self survival and PBAoE damage.
If you want a tank that can support himself and his teammates, go P/W and slap on a sword or axe. Spec into Leadership, Tactics/Command/Motivation, and Sword/Axe Mastery.
Of course, I hate warriors because 90% of those I meet are idiotic Wammos with FoW armor and Chaos Gloves that overagro EVERY time.
yourbane
rend says hello ^
Mantra Kase
As far as I know, Warriors in PvE and PvP have many builds. My Main char is actually a Warrior/Ranger and mainly play in PvE, but he fares quite well in PvP too. Being new to the game I havent really had the chance to learn how to 'Farm' yet so i would leave it more experienced players to tell yu tha.
Shasgaliel
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Nope. Paragons and Dervishes outclass them pretty much.
If you want a tank with good damage - go Dervish. Scythe and enchantments for self survival and PBAoE damage. If you want a tank that can support himself and his teammates, go P/W and slap on a sword or axe. Spec into Leadership, Tactics/Command/Motivation, and Sword/Axe Mastery. Of course, I hate warriors because 90% of those I meet are idiotic Wammos with FoW armor and Chaos Gloves that overagro EVERY time. |
You can use them successfully in both pve and pvp. They do not have many farming possibilities but the ones which they have are still a good source of money.
distilledwill
PvP= nothing slices through people like a good warrior.
PvE= Godmode warrior build still pumps out SY!
Farming= I believe the W/Rt UW build still works, as does Obsidian Tanking.
all in all, warriors are still incredibly viable.
PvE= Godmode warrior build still pumps out SY!
Farming= I believe the W/Rt UW build still works, as does Obsidian Tanking.
all in all, warriors are still incredibly viable.
Ben-A-BoO
1. Stonefist Insignia
2. High Armor
3. Strength for a extra bit of spike
That are the only reason's I can think off why you would play a warrior. In PvP those three make a warrior still one of the most reliable frontliner's. In PvE? Well less so, Paragon or Sin are more effective but well Warrior works too. It's PvE in the end ...
2. High Armor
3. Strength for a extra bit of spike
That are the only reason's I can think off why you would play a warrior. In PvP those three make a warrior still one of the most reliable frontliner's. In PvE? Well less so, Paragon or Sin are more effective but well Warrior works too. It's PvE in the end ...
Dronte
In PVP, warriors > any melee, thats pretty clear. Especially after warriors endurace buff, they are überpwnage. If u run derv or anything else as caller in HA or GvG you are just bad.
HawkofStorms
LOL at all the people saying warriors are finished.
In PvP, they are still EVERYWHERE. They are still good and used often, unlike Dervishes and Sins.
In PvE, anything really goes, so it doesn't matter.
In PvP, they are still EVERYWHERE. They are still good and used often, unlike Dervishes and Sins.
In PvE, anything really goes, so it doesn't matter.
Wish Swiftdeath
so many fail posts i don't know where to begin...
basically run whatever you want its pve >.<
basically run whatever you want its pve >.<
BlueNovember
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^ that is by far fail of what you just said
hammer warriors are used everywhere in pvp and are by far superior to rangers and dervishes and if your warrior is getting shut down then your monk or ur rupters or your foul feast[ta / ra] is trash |
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Originally Posted by boontheloon
i have a Necro but im not overly keen on him he seems to die very easily
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But yes, it's pve, run what you like.
Wish Swiftdeath
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qft. Plus add monks to that list for failing with spotless/veil usage.
Run Echo SS Necrosis on yourself and take 3 N/{Mo,Rt} discord heroes. Pve rape. Vanquish any kurzick area in 28 minutes or less. But yes, it's pve, run what you like. |
bungusmaximus
Warriors are fine, pretty reliable class if you ask me. For those who think dervishes are better, give a warrior a scythe and watch him have fun with flail and warriors endurance 
netniwk
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Originally Posted by BJuno
many ppl say yes..... but when the dervish arrived..well...
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Snow Bunny
[warrior's endurance]
Eragon Zarroc
warriors can play very essential roles in pve and pvp, it is not a dead class
FengShuiDove
For those of you who think Warriors are dead in PvP, push "B" once in a while in game and watch, well, pretty much any of the high ranked GvG matches.
Wish Swiftdeath
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
For those of you who think Warriors are dead in PvP, push "B" once in a while in game and watch, well, pretty much any GvG matches.
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Quaker
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Originally Posted by boontheloon
I haven't played the game for a while and im just wondering are Warriors still good for PvE PVP and Farming? I say this because i made a Warrior before i left and want to know wether to continue using her or move onto Elementalist as this seems what a lot of people have done
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Yes, there may arguably be classes/builds that are "better" at some things than a warrior, especially in PvP, but that means nothing if Warrior is what you like to play in PvE. In PvP it's all about having the "best" - in PvE it's about what you "enjoy".
The Meth
I hear killing things isn't viable in the game anymore. You are supposed to engage your enemies in diplomacy and get them to surrender without violence. That's why warriors aren't viable.
Lykan
At OP. Yes.
Have you actually pressed 'B' lately?
Get a clue before you open your mouth.
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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
Warriors in many of the pvp arenas are worthless now. There are so many melee shutdown skills now it's funny. Blinding surge and other blinding skillls can quickly shutdown most warriors and you can have your fun just degening them to death or spiking them. The warrior day is done. Rangers are about the only physical class left with still overpowering skills an advantages to play.
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Get a clue before you open your mouth.
Grego
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Originally Posted by The Meth
I hear killing things isn't viable in the game anymore. You are supposed to engage your enemies in diplomacy and get them to surrender without violence. That's why warriors aren't viable.
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ROTFLMAO!!!
This is the best post in this thread!
Thanks!
Eddie Frenzy Spam
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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
Warriors in many of the pvp arenas are worthless now. There are so many melee shutdown skills now it's funny. Blinding surge and other blinding skillls can quickly shutdown most warriors and you can have your fun just degening them to death or spiking them. The warrior day is done. Rangers are about the only physical class left with still overpowering skills an advantages to play.
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So what you're saying is, ALL melee classes are dead and you plan to kill with a ranger who is susceptible to the exact same anti-melee? The only reason rangers don't get a lot of anti-melee spammed on them is because Warriors are far more important targets for anti-melee spam. The only anti-melee that will be put on a ranger is a blurred vision and the rest goes onto the frontline because warriorz are strong.
You can have your fun degening them to death or spiking them? Dude, I want whatever drugs you're on because that shit is insane. You actually spike warriors?? You realise they have the highest armour value in the game right? And as for degening them to death, I'd tell whatever monks you play with to /uninstall because they're bad to.
I think essentially if we get past all the bad comments you made, what you've actually done is supported the case FOR warriors by outlining that, yes, there is quite a lot of anti-melee but ALL melee classes are vunerable to that and so therefore it doesn't really come into the arguement. You also brought up spiking, which doesn't really work when you spike a warrior, another plus side and so by running a 2 warrior frontline, you essentially can make 2 targets in your team very hard to spike just by wearing their armour.
Not to mention the INSANE pressure warriors can do as well as their spiking potential. The downside of Dervishs is that they are mainly spikers. It's relatively hard to pressure with a Dervish compared to with a Warrior and Assassins are pure spike characters and if one of your skills in your attack chain gets blocked, that's that spike RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed.
So, yes, in PvP terms Warriors are not only viable but also still the BEST way to kill stuff and pressure teams out.
hellyea526
warriors and monks = most important classes in pvp
pve, anything works
pve, anything works
Tyla
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Nope. Paragons and Dervishes outclass them pretty much.
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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
Warriors in many of the pvp arenas are worthless now. There are so many melee shutdown skills now it's funny. Blinding surge and other blinding skillls can quickly shutdown most warriors and you can have your fun just degening them to death or spiking them. The warrior day is done. Rangers are about the only physical class left with still overpowering skills an advantages to play.
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warriors and monks = most important classes in pvp
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Lyynyyrd
Warriors are the best damage class in the game.
That is all.
The end.
Anyone who says otherwise is stupid.
That is all.
The end.
Anyone who says otherwise is stupid.
mage767
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Warriors are the best damage class in the game.
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LoL, warri-tard.
gg, stay bad.
Elder III
Warrior is viable - so is every other profession - just find a good build and you can do almost anything. Pick what looks best or whatever fulfills your secret fantasies the most.