palm strike!!!!!

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

killing a shieldbash/disciplined monk with a palm striker is fairly simple. you spam palm strike without the combo, until those 2 skills are recharging. then do the full combo.

still, killing something else is more brutal. and the bos version does this consistently.

also...
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Originally Posted by Wild Karrde View Post
Nope, they target other sins for epic dueling. yes, the honorable thing to do. a battle for superiority... it is the ninja way!

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

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Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
If they time it right so that they knock out trampling then ur pretty gimped. Its still powerful, but ur are pretty gimped. Not useless, but at that point id rather have a warrior wailing on them. And this still returns to the point of, sins arent the only melee in the game.
Why are they going to knock out trampling if you didnt suck? oO Most monks in RA are pretty braindead or new or dont care so you do a false spike wait for them to use up all the stances they have shield bashes and oun them. Also only good PS sin is the one with two oxes everything else is prety crapsy.

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
yes, the honorable thing to do. a battle for superiority... it is the ninja way! weak

I soloed a RA party of 4 yesterday because they were stupid enough to scatter all around the map to "catch" me when I started running after other 3 noobs in my party got owned...was fun cutting their throats one by one...now THAT is how true assassin ninja do it!

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

the double ox version gives you 1 utility slot, that sucks

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

who needs utility when you can blow up stuff...

ahhh because you cant live without wasting two slots for mending touch and remove hex on your sin "spiker" lmao right?

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

besides that, the spike of the double horns version is damn slow and easy to catch. late deep wound and small horns dmg ftl. earlier deep wound and then 240++ dmg from palm-bos ftw.

petrorabbit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

qknocking > clutch prot spike shutdown

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Palm Strike can easily kill most of the average RA monks. for the good ones, you gotta risk some hits through Guardian, but I don't reall ylike that :P

however, considering so many people in RA monkstomp, it's MUCH better to go on different targets which are just so easy to finish.

the ability to lineback is also very useful, so half of the time my last choice of target is the monk -- exception is when I get a hex team that will take care of the other scrubs. :P

the quarterknocking is also incredibly awesome, that's why i just love the 5 attack chain with flurry. might not have defense but srsly, if you can instagib them..most sorts of utility are just SO useless lately.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

killing > qknocking
more damage in less skills > less damage in more skills

but whatever floats your boat

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qknocking > clutch prot spike shutdown what's a clutch?

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

I find it funny how 90% of the sins' running these builds are terrible, quite often you can wander just inside their aggro circle and aggro them like you would a mob, then you just throw up d-stance while your team spikes him down as he shadowsteps in.

For the sins that know what they are doing, it's alot harder, they usually targetswap and it forces you to spam guardian which in turn leaves you more susceptible to a d-shot. These sin's also tend to run dual KD which can be a nightmare when facing lot's of pressure as other teammates will often get killed during the five seconds you spend on the floor.

As a monk i'd like this to get smiterbooned, but as a gw player in general i would just want a longer recharge on palm strike, to give targets a chance to kite rather than getting continually trained. This would reward skill more instead of it being the 123456 it is currently. It would also tone down the balance significantly because you won't have permanent cripple on you while being trained by a dervish/WE warrior as well as a sin.

petrorabbit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
killing > qknocking
more damage in less skills > less damage in more skills
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Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath View Post
For the sins that know what they are doing, it's alot harder, they usually targetswap and it forces you to spam guardian which in turn leaves you more susceptible to a d-shot. These sin's also tend to run dual KD which can be a nightmare when facing lot's of pressure as other teammates will often get killed during the five seconds you spend on the floor. This is coming from a monk.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

No, I'd say 95% or more of the sins running thse builds are bad. THey don't know how to do anything else other that OP builds that are simple 123456.

I went into RA yesterday with the sole intention of DShoting as many Palm Strikes as I could. It was too easy and I got bored. Stupid sins are too predictable.

So I swapped to Mesmer to see how many Palm Strikes I could Divert. Again, too easy. Op builds make bad players that have no idea how to deal with problems. They train one target and attack though any Hex or condition they have.

Palm Strike IS overpowered reguardless of the stupidity of the person on the keyboard behind it. It needs a much longer recharge and less damage.

Vehemence

Vehemence

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Perth

[LOD]

W/

The current form is overpowered, but I hope if the skill will be nerfed, it will still be usable effectively.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

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This is coming from a monk.
so? i go for monks last. i have rigorously trained myself for many months to snobbishly defy their healing! unless they're really pro (very rare in ra) or my team completely fails at damage.

Quote: so you're saying any sort of shutdown is bad, because it doesn't deal damage and thus kill? good one.

it's more like this:

qknocking -> killing yes, qknocking is a means to an end (killing). but if you can achieve the end sooner and more reliably why not do that? besides, there usually isnt anything worth qknocking.

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Only the most pathetic assassin player in guild wars would say and I see youre making sure to continue being one.

Its slow because you run it with crap like mending touch or remove hex, the spike is fast and packs strong q-knocking ability which just rapes the monk and ig you want to twisting fangs in the start feel free to do so although finishing off with them is much better. said the idiot who monkstomps. im one of the greatest assassins ever, watch me play my palm striker and your mouth will be on the floor.

ias or not, any monk half awake will notice the sloooow chipping damage of palm-ox-fall-ox-fall, toss in a heal at any time, and save the target from the spike.

with my version though, monk sees deepwound, thinks oh that guy needs a heal, but soon after, BAM! goes BoS, target is dead, woh fails at 98% completion. (trust me i see this all the time, i can even feel the monk's heart sinking) ='(

but go ahead and bring your 10 damage quarterknock and monkstomp, lol.

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No, I'd say 95% or more of the sins running thse builds are bad. THey don't know how to do anything else other that OP builds that are simple 123456.

I went into RA yesterday with the sole intention of DShoting as many Palm Strikes as I could. It was too easy and I got bored. Stupid sins are too predictable.

So I swapped to Mesmer to see how many Palm Strikes I could Divert. Again, too easy. Op builds make bad players that have no idea how to deal with problems. They train one target and attack though any Hex or condition they have.

Palm Strike IS overpowered reguardless of the stupidity of the person on the keyboard behind it. It needs a much longer recharge and less damage. you must play in america. i love r/ and m/ that try to mess with my palm strike. i make sure they know it by pleasuring their asshole with a spear from the skies.

TheHaxor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

two

W/N

You guys make me want to pull my hair out. This thread makes me sad.

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk View Post
I went into RA yesterday with the sole intention of DShoting as many Palm Strikes as I could. It was too easy and I got bored. Stupid sins are too predictable. *assassin ques Palm Strike and proceeds to run up to target* </dshot> "lol wut? why i cant combo!@?"

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Drugs are bad Cytherea, really bad.

I think your head is way too big to understand whats going on here, or anywhere for that matter.

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im one of the greatest assassins ever I almost fell out of my chair, good one, keep the laughs comming.

petrorabbit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
so? i go for monks last. i have rigorously trained myself for many months to snobbishly defy their healing! unless they're really pro (very rare in ra) or my team completely fails at damage.
Actually, my point is that Wish Swiftdeath, someone who plays a monk, has shown, in one single post, that he knows a lot more about the assassin class than you have ever shown in all of your posts and RA vids combined.

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said the idiot who monkstomps. im one of the greatest assassins ever, watch me play my palm striker and your mouth will be on the floor. Just because you decided to put yourself in the same sentence with "greatest assassins" still doesn't change the fact that you're an RA scrub with delusions of grandeur. Have you ever wondered why nobody on this forum respects you or anything you have to say?

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but go ahead and bring your 10 damage quarterknock and monkstomp, lol. Oh I get it now, you're just trolling. Good one, keep up the troll persona, it suits you perfectly.

Beware guru readers, feeding the troll is not advised.

ele pl

ele pl

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

E/

Cytherea, i used to like you, but if you want to be my sin guru, do not act like this:
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im one of the greatest assassins ever Me, and my friends are runing palm strike. Each time, they bring double ox version, while i always bring version with DB and twisting fangs (ps+db=epic pressure). After gvg, i went to obs, and i have seen the results. It seems, that double-ox version is too predictable, and has some problems with energy.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Running with:

[palm [email protected]][trampling [email protected]][falling lotus [email protected]][twisting [email protected]][blades of [email protected]][wild blow][shadow walk][dash]

Stance removal over KD-lock, not sure if it's worth it but funny as hell. Also, IAS means having to deal with Shadowstep aftercast (rather not).

TheHaxor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

two

W/N

My comrades we need to band together to stop these sin punks from taking over RA. It is time for us to take a stand and eliminate this scum from our midst! Everyone must start running blind eles, hex necros, and anti-melee mesmers all with a /P secondary for "Can't touch this!" Names such as No Sins Please, No Wins For Sins, Sins Go Home, No Sins Allowed, Sins Are Sinners, etc. are also necessary. We can chant things such as "sins are ruining GW," "sins are the inferior class," "sins should go back where they came from," etc. We can inform the entire guild wars community of our intentions by saying "It's time to set fire upon the sin empire. We will not stop until every sins head is popped." When this battle is all over, I will hear my brothers and sisters say, "What is this new and exciting game we are playing?" I will look deep in their eyes and say, "Guild Wars, bitches. Guild Wars." They will then reply "F*** Purr" and I will jizz in my pants.

You Put the Ass in Assassin
by The Haxor

You think you good because you win
But you put the ass in assassin
Because you f***in stink
Every time you click this link (http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Palm_Strike_TA)
You look good, or so you think
But I'm gonna put a kink
In your genius plans
This dream is one man's
That might result in a few bans
I'm getting stocked on Red Bull cans
So I can pull an all-nighter
To show y'all that I'm a fighter
I'm gonna be known as the sin smiter
To start this fire we need a lighter
Thats when the OG Haxor came
All the RA crowds chantin his name
He showed the sins they were f***in lame
And their noob asses all quit this game

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

Remove the cripple. It's not that hard.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

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Originally Posted by Super Igor View Post
I kill everything into the ground monk or not swiftly and powerfully for your notice like a true ninja assassin!

I can imagine a fight between you and me, how powerfully I q-knock your weak pathetic IASless combo finishing you off with twisting fangs and then stand on your corpse typing /rank command into my chat window.
lol i bet you dont even know how to qknock.
- id pwn your cripple, lol at your combo failing, then kill you.
- or if you got the jump on me, id just stand and let you do your combo, cuz it's weak and i'll survive, pwn the bleed+dw, then kill you.

unlike yours, mine isnt imagination, that's how i deal with all enemy double ox palm strikers, with great success.

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On Topic:
Best assassin ever who isnt you by far Cytherea sorry would know false spiking and all those tricks well enough to destroy the weak little monk with strong arms fearfully hiding behind a tall tall shield.
Ofcourse without having multiple KD chain that would make the monk lose all hope of staying in this world and prepare for long journey to the underworld you wont do much to our little monky heartilly spamming every single gurdian, imbaspirit, woh, mending touch while you try to kill it with BoS => Impale or whatever funny youre using Cyth...
that whole paragraph sounds idiotic, dont try to do creative writing.

Quote: Actually, my point is that Wish Swiftdeath, someone who plays a monk, has shown, in one single post, that he knows a lot more about the assassin class than you have ever shown in all of your posts and RA vids combined.
no, that's just a typical monk's point of view. they would all say pretty much the same thing, i guarantee it. nothing special.

Quote: Just because you decided to put yourself in the same sentence with "greatest assassins" still doesn't change the fact that you're an RA scrub with delusions of grandeur. Have you ever wondered why nobody on this forum respects you or anything you have to say? they try to deny my brilliant ideas cuz the truth hurts.

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Oh I get it now, you're just trolling. Good one, keep up the troll persona, it suits you perfectly.

Beware guru readers, feeding the troll is not advised. lol im dead serious.

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Cytherea, i used to like you, but if you want to be my sin guru, do not act like this:

Me, and my friends are runing palm strike. Each time, they bring double ox version, while i always bring version with DB and twisting fangs (ps+db=epic pressure). After gvg, i went to obs, and i have seen the results. It seems, that double-ox version is too predictable, and has some problems with energy. ok i'll try to be more subtle. anyway your observations about double ox are correct. also, you should go bos over db. 60 > 43. even with only 3 attacks recharging, bos > db.

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Originally Posted by TheHaxor
snip another guy who shouldnt try creative writing

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Assassins on this forum are the same as assassins in game, they only one-on-one and they fight pretty dirty.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
lol i bet you dont even know how to qknock.
- id pwn your cripple, lol at your combo failing, then kill you.
- or if you got the jump on me, id just stand and let you do your combo, cuz it's weak and i'll survive, pwn the bleed+dw, then kill you.

unlike yours, mine isnt imagination, that's how i deal with all enemy double ox palm strikers, with great success.
You are terrible, [trampling ox] under 33% IAS says hi it would crush your poor [mending touch] no self respecting assassin would ever use and be sure you wont survive the power and strength of my combo.



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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus View Post
Assassins on this forum are the same as assassins in game, they only one-on-one and they fight pretty dirty. dont judge strong and powerful assassins of this forum by Cyhterea.

Napalm Flame

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Crimson Butterflies [CB]

E/A

Put DB in the bar and it's gg.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Best thread ever.

Two 12 year old "expert" button mashers with, as PetroRabbit stated, delusions of grandure argueing over who is the best button masher ever in the God of all PvP arenas, RA.

@ Snipus, yeah it was fun at first wasn't it? Good for a laugh, then boreing once you figure out how easy it is.

The Devs seem to love Sins and Smitters so I expect it to be around for a while and end up kinda like [Visions of Regret] another way OP skill that everyone sems to have stopped complaining about.
Wait 5s or targetswap?

Also, more AB fun!

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