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Big Domage Krewe [DoMe]

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Dec 13, 2008 at 3:09 AM • #1

I've often heard that Rits in PvE function better with Assassin's Promise then with Offering of Spirit. Is the same true for Heroes, do they use AP for its effect rather then as an actual degen hex or something stupid like that?

Lyynyyrd

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Dec 13, 2008 at 3:14 AM • #2

In my experience... they don't use it.

Keep in mind the Hex itself has no function, so yeah.

Rick Thene

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Dec 13, 2008 at 3:19 AM • #3

Ah yes you're right, I was thinking of the Necro version, Reaper's Mark or whatever it is.

Are you sure they don't use it at all? Even when they are set to guard mode?
They hardly use OoS, so not much change there then...

Kerwyn Nasilan

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Dec 13, 2008 at 4:05 AM • #4

Dont use rit heros, they is baed

Rick Thene

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Dec 13, 2008 at 4:14 AM • #5

Razah looks 100 times cooler then the Necros, and looking good is what wins PvE.

Plus Xandra has bigger boobs than Livia. You know it to be true.

ac1inferno

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Dec 13, 2008 at 6:10 AM • #6

From my experiences, hero ritualists are good with the following elites: [[Wielder's Zeal], [[Weapon of Quickening], [[Offering of Spirit], [[Animate Flesh Golem], and [[Weapon of Fury]. Many people say they don't use Offering of Spirit until very low energy. I seem to have the exact opposite. Mine spams it on recharge if any spirits are within earshot.

FlamingMetroid

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Dec 13, 2008 at 6:11 AM • #7

Heroes tend to fail Assassin's Promise pretty hard

Zodiac Meteor

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Dec 13, 2008 at 6:20 AM • #8

Quote: Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

Heroes tend to fail Assassin's Promise pretty hard Really? I see them use it very well. Maybe it's just me.

paragon hero
[Assassin's Promise][Ballad of Restoration][Aria of Zeal][Aria of Restoration][Finale of Restoration]["Fall Back!"]["Go for the Eyes!"]and rez

It works really well.

upier

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Dec 13, 2008 at 7:17 AM • #9

Quote: Originally Posted by Rick Thene

I've often heard that Rits in PvE function better with Assassin's Promise then with Offering of Spirit. And in 90% of the times - it's coming from me.

The biggest issue, in my experience and what I heard from other people, is that heroes do not understand what the skill does. And as such they won't throw it on a foe that is already hexed with of a copy from a different party member. Meaning if you are going to run more then one AP - you are bound to run in some inefficient use.
Still, for a rit hero - AP might be a bit tricky. The reason being that you kinda want them to be a resto/channeling hybrid (since they do not have PvE skills) and that means you're going to be left up with 3 attribute levels worth of points. So I'd more likely just stick in something like [Soothing Memories], [essence strike] or [power drain] if you have that free slot.

Rick Thene

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Dec 13, 2008 at 7:32 AM • #10

Yes upier, that is true.

OK, so, generally they suck at using it (I'm too lazy to micro btw) and the Deadly Arts spec isn't easy/worth it considering what else would be sacrificed.
Right now Razah uses OoS and GoLE, which is fine, just wondering if AP was more efficient for them.

Super Igor

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Dec 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM • #11

I like AP on heroes, problem is that sometimes you would kill shit faster than they can cast AP on that when that thing is at 10% of hp.