Where are the game servers located?

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

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The reason I am asking is the following:

0 xxxxxx-96c53591
1 isp1.grm.net
2 customer111_206.grm.net
3 65.255.143.9
4 65.255.143.205
5 ge-6-22.car2.KansasCity1.Level3.net [4.53.34.1]
6 ae-11-11.car1.KansasCity1.Level3.net [4.69.135.233]
7 ae-5-5.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.135.230]
8 ae-72-72.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.142]
9 ae-73-73.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.157]
10 ae-7.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.134.22]
11 ae-2.ebr1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.132.86]
12 ae-71-71.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.134]
13 ae-72-72.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.149]
14 ae-43.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.137.57]
15 ae-2-2.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.132.142]
16 ae-61-61.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.2]
17 ae-11-69.car1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.68.23.3]
18 62.67.33.218
19 206-127-156-82.plaync.com [206.127.156.82]
20 206-127-145-228.plaync.com [206.127.145.228]

This is the route taken to reach the servers. Quite probably the cause of some of my recent lag.

SmartBomb

SmartBomb

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Join Date: Nov 2008

Illinois

Necropolis Warlords

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Haha, I just desperately hope they know what they're doing.

Jongal

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Join Date: Jan 2008

rest assured the ping isn't better if you are in germany

Lykan

Lykan

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Join Date: May 2005

StP

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How do you get this info?

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

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To get info, before you log in, click "test my computer".

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

the american server is located in texas. don't know about the other ones.

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

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still I get a lot of bad lag lately.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

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I would like to point out that ArenaNet/NCSoft has no control over the route your computer takes to reach their servers.

That is controlled by the service contracts between different suppliers and gateways.

Quaker

Quaker

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Since that tracer route was during "test my computer", it may be (and appears to be) the route to a PlayNC server that handles the testing. It may not necessarily be the route to the game servers.

It does point out though, the number of various places that the route goes through to get anywhere. Like Darcy says above, ANet has no control over the routing decisions your computer takes to get there.

Perkunas

Perkunas

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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I know ANet doesn't establish the route. I find it a bit silly to go to Texas from Missouri via Frankfurt, Germany. A nonstop "flight" would be nice.

Darcy

Darcy

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

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It could have been Paris, Kentucky and Frankfurt, Tennessee.

ne33us

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Athens, Greece

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perkunas View Post
I know ANet doesn't establish the route. I find it a bit silly to go to Texas from Missouri via Frankfurt, Germany. A nonstop "flight" would be nice.
Going to Texas from Missouri seemed to be the fastest "route" at the time.
Try out this link http://www.traceroute.org/ using U.S.A. servers and foreign servers and you will notice that there are alternative "routes" to/from your location. Anyway I wouldn't trust those FQDNs that much nowadays.

You seem to have proven one thing. The "test my computer" is using a single European server for all GW clients/players no matter where they are located, which is not very informative for the U.S.A. players, unless, it serves some other functionality I'm not aware of.

Nice Internet resources
http://lacnic.net/cgi-bin/lacnic/whois?lg=EN
http://whatismyipaddress.com/
http://www.traceroute.org/

Perkunas

Perkunas

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy View Post
It could have been Paris, Kentucky and Frankfurt, Tennessee.

True. It also went to Dallas then back out.

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

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When you sent information through the Internet, such as e-mails, it is broken into smaller "packages" which are sent separately and "reassembled" upon arrival. Some of these packages might well be sent through China, though the receiver is in the same country as you. This all depends on traffic and availability of routers at the time.
I have no knowledge of the method GW uses for transmitting data, but unless it differs greatly, this might well explain the circumvent routes people experience.

ne33us

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Athens, Greece

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind View Post
When you sent information through the Internet, such as e-mails, it is broken into smaller "packages" which are sent separately and "reassembled" upon arrival. Some of these packages might well be sent through China, though the receiver is in the same country as you. This all depends on traffic and availability of routers at the time.
I have no knowledge of the method GW uses for transmitting data, but unless it differs greatly, this might well explain the circumvent routes people experience.
What you describe is P2P torrent and all the alike protocols traffic, which also involves multiple "senders" of the same information and a single "reassembler" of what has been received.

Http, Ftp, smtp and the rest the "good old" protocols can't and won't ever juggle packets like that. Gw is not a juggler either.

Fortunately "the network" uses the most efficient "route" between two endpoints which have "negotiated" a connection, and it sticks with that route no matter what because it is simple... the best.
And there is no reason to start shiping packets all over the world just because it there may be multiple routes available.

Quaker

Quaker

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by ne33us View Post
You seem to have proven one thing. The "test my computer" is using a single European server for all GW clients/players no matter where they are located, which is not very informative for the U.S.A. players, unless, it serves some other functionality I'm not aware of.
What functionality did you think it had? The "test my computer" thing is mostly design to make sure your computer has the required hardware to play GW and to make sure you have a good internet connection. If you can connect to Europe, you have a good internet connection.
It's not designed to test your ping to any particular game server. You can do that once you have passed the "Test my computer" and start up the game.

ne33us

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Athens, Greece

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker View Post
What functionality did you think it had? The "test my computer" thing is mostly design to make sure your computer has the required hardware to play GW and to make sure you have a good internet connection. If you can connect to Europe, you have a good internet connection.
It's not designed to test your ping to any particular game server. You can do that once you have passed the "Test my computer" and start up the game.
This is a (way too) late answer
THe topic is "Where are the game servers located?" so it seems that, testing against an E.U. server, lead at least one player to wonder if that is right for him/her since s/he is located in U.S.A.

On the other hand that same test seemed completely normal to me since I'm located in E.U. But I would also be wondering if my test was against a U.S.A. server

I agree that the test is not about "ping" but it is surely an obvious way to locate latencies on the network and pinpoint who is to be blamed for those latencies.

For example, if between my machine and my ISPs machine I have 400ms latency then my line is heavily used somehow and that is something I must resolve asap

Quaker

Quaker

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ne33us View Post
The topic is "Where are the game servers located?" so it seems that, testing against an E.U. server, lead at least one player to wonder if that is right for him/her since s/he is located in U.S.A.
Well, my take on it is ..... the OP used "Test My Computer" and he thought (not unreasonably) that the route would be to the game servers. But, it appears that the part of TMC that tests your internet connection only tests your throughput while connecting to a server in the EU. It would seem that TMC figures if you have good throughput to Europe, your internet connection is good enough to play the game smoothly.

Unfortunately, for the OP (and others), this does not test your connection to any particular game server. But on the other hand, if you are having problems with a particular game server and the TMC is OK, then the problem usually is a "routing issue". If you've read any of the tech sections on here, you'll know that many people don't understand the whole "routing" concept and every time they have lag, they blame ANet.

moriz

moriz

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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TMC tests ALL the servers, right after one another.