Drunkard skill counting

bargaw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

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Drunkard skill should be given like points for sweets/party items eg. you get points for drinking alcohol not for spending lots of time afking/playing with weird video effects.
Current system is confusing and overall cause lost of precious alcohol.
Plain&Simple

??iljo

??iljo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

/signed


Like you remember how long where u drunk the next day.

Drain down the booze and points and gg.

Healing Fool

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Holy Avengers [HA] Guild Leader

A/

/not signed

Watch your title progress bar and it will tell you exactly when each minute is credited. Too many people complaining about how hard things are. If it's that hard to work on this title, then don't. If it's the in game effects that's annoying, turn them off.

P.S.
You don't waste any alcohol if you drink a level 5 alcohol, wait 3 minutes then drink another level 5 alcohol.

GWEXTREEMFAN

GWEXTREEMFAN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

in my house

N/A

W/E

lol
/notsigend <- never

who wants points for drinking? u get em anyway
...
minutes are better and more fun^^

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Switch the title progress to giving points when you drink the ale. Leave the minute-long and scaling effects.

/signed

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Switch the title progress to giving points when you drink the ale. Leave the minute-long and scaling effects.
This. Make sure you leave the screen affects as is, but make the title itself points. That way, those who like the effects will be more likely to do it the "old-fashion way" when/if the title gets changed.

isildorbiafra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Netherlands

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/Signed I dont have time to burn in towns and outposts.

Dookie Dookz

Dookie Dookz

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

USA

[any]

Mo/

It's fine the way it is. Do stuff while your drunk, I ran missions. farm and bought and sold things in town while drunk.

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

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I was thinking of getting my cartographer title by using [drunken [email protected]]
wouldn't that be a viable method to spending drunk time?

Running the edge of the maps while drunk using [drunken [email protected]] seems like a great way to multitask titles.

assassin shaun

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

England

black wolf pirates [awoo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Switch the title progress to giving points when you drink the ale. Leave the minute-long and scaling effects
this. with the same effects to the screen as it is now


/signed

hawaiian143

hawaiian143

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Mo/

/signed
as from what i read in order to maximize your effort you start by drinking a lvl5 drink and then a lvl 1 drink after every minute that passes. I would like to do what Daze had suggested but in order to maximize it i would have to really pay attention to the drunkard title in the hero panel or have a stop watch beep every min so that i would use a lvl 1 drink, which can be very difficult since in some areas u cant simply run past bad guys without having to fight. Just wish there was a better way to obtain IAH without having to spend 160+hours or real time not really playing the game.
So for now i guess i'll get drunk while buying and selling stuff in town.

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiian143 View Post
/signed
as from what i read in order to maximize your effort you start by drinking a lvl5 drink and then a lvl 1 drink after every minute that passes. I would like to do what Daze had suggested but in order to maximize it i would have to really pay attention to the drunkard title in the hero panel or have a stop watch beep every min so that i would use a lvl 1 drink, which can be very difficult since in some areas u cant simply run past bad guys without having to fight. Just wish there was a better way to obtain IAH without having to spend 160+hours or real time not really playing the game.
So for now i guess i'll get drunk while buying and selling stuff in town.
actually any enemies can be ran past as long as you have the right skillbar. But [drunken master] is only one skill so you can add 7 more skills designed to either take out any resistance or to avoid said resistance ([deaths charge][vow of silence][mist form][shadow form]etc.)

As for the stopwatch idea, i really hope it doesn't come down to that. I plan to just kinda wing it, ill have another drink periodically just to keep my drunkenness above lvl 3 so i may wait a minute or a minute and a half before i drink again and if i feel that i waited too long, ill drink 2.
Just treat alcohol like i do in real life, I dont drink until my blood alcohol content reaches .02. I drink until ugly chicks are hot and maybe a bit more.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Switch the title progress to giving points when you drink the ale. Leave the minute-long and scaling effects.

/signed

I would really like it this way. This mindless clicking every minute/3 minutes is driving me nuts. If this is implemented this way I may even reconsider drinking again.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Originally Posted by Dookie Dookz View Post
It's fine the way it is. Do stuff while your drunk, I ran missions. farm and bought and sold things in town while drunk
Having to do stuff while you're drunk just to burn time would be a big inconvenience. I don't see any reason in forcing players to wait out to get their points in the track for 1000-10000 minutes total, especially when the item effects and point gains could be split.

Similar to how Sugar Rush works, a person drinking alcohol could have a skill (not an Enchantment) in the Effects Monitor saying they're at Level x Alcoholism with a duration of a minute, and then drinking alcohols would increase it while waiting would drop it. That would also solve a counter idea that some people have been QQing over for a while.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

I would say if they dont change it to a point oriented system, at least put the effect monitor at the top so you could see how much longer it will last much like the sweet tooth. That way you wouldnt have to resort to using other means to obtain the title

elk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by daze View Post
actually any enemies can be ran past as long as you have the right skillbar. But [drunken master] is only one skill so you can add 7 more skills designed to either take out any resistance or to avoid said resistance ([deaths charge][vow of silence][mist form][shadow form]etc.)

As for the stopwatch idea, i really hope it doesn't come down to that. I plan to just kinda wing it, ill have another drink periodically just to keep my drunkenness above lvl 3 so i may wait a minute or a minute and a half before i drink again and if i feel that i waited too long, ill drink 2.
Just treat alcohol like i do in real life, I dont drink until my blood alcohol content reaches .02. I drink until ugly chicks are hot and maybe a bit more.

actually [drunken master] is the key.

Recharge = 60secs. Take a drink everytime this skill recharges.


elk

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

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Quote:
Originally Posted by elk View Post
actually [drunken master] is the key.

Recharge = 60secs. Take a drink everytime this skill recharges.


elk
So brilliant in its simplicity.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Use a script while you sleep!

owait. /sarcasm.

Seriously, if it's too painful to go for, don't do it? What I did is keep open the title bar as I was PvEing and just knock back some booze every few minutes. You can turn off the drunk effects if you want.

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

you'll get it eventually if you want

you cant just change a title that dramatically when it's been around for so long
so no
stop being a retard

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Currently, the Drunkard title it's like a clepsydra.
You have to look at it.

No title should be like that. Drop by drop...

With no way o see your current level and no title bar like the XP bar, it's only annoying.

It should be like the rest of Festival titles: Just use the items and don't bother about when you use them.

If this way is the way to fix that, then should be done. If a better way exists, then that other way should be done.

JASON626

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

I just maxed my title out.

I'd say leave it the way it is but add an icon in corner like the rest showing u your level drunkness (like carrying the urn around does)

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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I want to bump this up in hopes people will change this. I don't care I want them to keep the amount you would normally nead to use to get 10k minutes. Just let us do it points wise and not afk wise. They just allegedly nerfed the 3 minute zoning process which was the only way for legit people to get it without spending 10k minutes worth of game time afk clicking away.

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

/notsigned
It's no problem at all I got my 9.3k mostly by doing VQ and stuff just have the hero panel open and check it now and then and you're good to go.

Headchopperz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

always 5+ miles from you

Slayers of Lost Order

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/signed
i dont want to play for 16 days straight to get my max drunkard title
id rather drink all the beer at once and get it over with...

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

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/signed
the other "consume" titles are point based, why not make drunkard drink based?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Puddles View Post
/signed
the other "consume" titles are point based, why not make drunkard drink based?
The only reason stated so far is "Because I had to make the title with the old system".

But... look at the other titles. Most, if not all of them, can be made with WAY easier ways than just drinking.

I say double the points to the max, give one point for each consume alcoholic beverage, 3 for the 'strong' beverages and keep the 'stay drunk' point system, so people can get the title both ways: either slow or expensive.

Day Trooper

Day Trooper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guild With No [NAM???]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Healing Fool View Post
P.S.
You don't waste any alcohol if you drink a level 5 alcohol, wait 3 minutes then drink another level 5 alcohol.
Actually - doing it this way you technically are wasting alcohol.

When I was maxing the title, I'd first down a lvl 5 drink (spiked eggnog) - wait 3 minutes - and then drink 1 lvl 3 drink (firewater; or I believe you can also click 3 1-minute drinks) every 3 minutes thereafter.

1 level 5 drink is the same as 2 firewaters. So by drinking a lvl 5 drink each time, you're basically wasting the equivalent of 1 firewater each time you click the next lvl 5 drink...

-DT

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

/signed xxxxxxx times

but they should change also alot on the other titles ..., still much undone, what they should have changed with the title update a month ago ...

Sharkman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Day Trooper View Post
Actually - doing it this way you technically are wasting alcohol.
First of all, Firewater was upgraded to a level 5 drink a while of go.

Also, using a level 5 drink in place of three level 1's isn't really wasting, as the most points you can get out of a level 5 is three. I guess level 5 drinks are slightly more expensive than level 3s, but I would consider the storage benefits and other minor conveniences to outweigh the slight difference in price.

exploiter

exploiter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

ign Punk Isnt Dead

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/notsigned
just because already maxed and dont want other people to get it easier :P

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharkman View Post
First of all, Firewater was upgraded to a level 5 drink a while of go.

Also, using a level 5 drink in place of three level 1's isn't really wasting, as the most points you can get out of a level 5 is three. I guess level 5 drinks are slightly more expensive than level 3s, but I would consider the storage benefits and other minor conveniences to outweigh the slight difference in price.

See, this is why the prices for level 5's are so screwed up...people think they're the same as 3 level 1's, just because they only give 3 minutes when used alone.

Plain and simple, if you want to use level 1's in the same manner as you'd use level 5's, you'd have to use 5 level 1's to get the same amount of minutes as one level 5 if you stop drinking right after. The first two don't count towards the title, only the 3rd, 4th and 5th because you're not "drunk" until your 3rd level.

Therefore, level 5's should be worth 5x the amount as a level 1. It's people cheating the system by mapping in and out of their gh that pull the price down, and ignorant dumbasses who think "3 minutes = 300g noob!"

Dookie Dookz

Dookie Dookz

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

USA

[any]

Mo/

I think Sweet Tooth and Party Animal should have behaved the same way as Drunkard when they were added much later after the Drunkard title was put in. I guess why this is now, there aren't many Party/ Sweet drops as alcohols.

Healing Fool

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Holy Avengers [HA] Guild Leader

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Day Trooper View Post
Actually - doing it this way you technically are wasting alcohol.

When I was maxing the title, I'd first down a lvl 5 drink (spiked eggnog) - wait 3 minutes - and then drink 1 lvl 3 drink (firewater; or I believe you can also click 3 1-minute drinks) every 3 minutes thereafter.

1 level 5 drink is the same as 2 firewaters. So by drinking a lvl 5 drink each time, you're basically wasting the equivalent of 1 firewater each time you click the next lvl 5 drink...

-DT


This was changed a long time ago. There are no level 3 alcohols anymore. People should know what they're talking about before they post.


As for the level 5 vs level 1 alcohols....it is way easier to drink one level 5 alcohol and play (i.e. vanquish, missions, cartography, etc....) watching your drunk minutes in your hero panel off and on then sitting around in a town or outpost mindlessly clicking. They also take up way less inventory room. They should be worth more then 3 level 1 alcohols.

People should stop QQing and either use their alcohol or sell it to someone who will.

P.S.
Please don't try to sell to me as I have already finished my Incorrigible Ale-Hound Title

P.S.S.
Still /NotSigned

Day Trooper

Day Trooper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guild With No [NAM???]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Healing Fool View Post
This was changed a long time ago. There are no level 3 alcohols anymore. People should know what they're talking about before they post.
Well excuuu-uuuuuse me . People should just nicely point out other's mistakes without having to be tards in the process - the world would be a much better place!

I maxed out the drunkard title over a year ago - so I honestly didn't realize this was changed. My bad...

Golestandt

Golestandt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sweden

[test]

W/

If I had maxed this title the long and painful way and A-net suddenly decided to make it easier, I'd be pissed.

They should make it like sweet tooth/party animal, but change the name, e.i. make it another title and remove the currently existing one. That way the ones who already achieved IAH get recognized for their work if they display the title, and the ones who just clicked 10k times in a row get a separate title which will have lower prestige. (the ones who already have IAS won't be able to gain the other title, and vice versa)

Since all I care about is getting another maxed title for GWAMM title track, but don't really play this game enough to obtain it anytime soon, i'll /sign this.

However just making the current title easier would be unfair to the ones who put alot of time into it, I don't think it'll ever happen.

??iljo

??iljo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Who cares if you got it before.Dont be a wanker, there will be more updates b4 gw2 for even easire title maxing.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

They already made titles easier to get. Treasure hunter and wisdom being account wide (when some people spent a lot of time chest running on harder chars). Not to mention kurzick faction which people spent months getting through boring hff.

Just because some people (let's face it, a lot of people have used auto clickers and been afk while getting their drunkard title but a few actually did it the right way and I commend them for that) got their title maxed doesn't mean everyone should have been forced to do 10k minutes afk. The title was flawed to begin with, I am sure if you could only use one sweet tooth item every minute/ 3 minutes that people would be complaining for a change just like drunkard.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dookie Dookz View Post
I think Sweet Tooth and Party Animal should have behaved the same way as Drunkard when they were added much later after the Drunkard title was put in. I guess why this is now, there aren't many Party/ Sweet drops as alcohols.
Many sweets and most party items have no duration at all. They are instant.

For example, the moral recover sweets and the fireworks.

So, making sweets and party items work like drunkard would be even more senseless than how the drunkard works already.

The title was meant to treat those that used to drink while in parties and such and stay drunk, but now is a title that treats keeping the hero panel open with the title list tab selected and looking at a bar.

It must be changed so people no longer have to look at a bar, just drink all the time as much as they want. Whatever the way it is, it must be a 'Fire and forget' way.

stevedallas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

NY

The Ebon Vanguard

W/

/not signed

the point of the title is time spent being drunk, not number of alcoholic beverages consumed. if they made this change, people would just scream about how much more expensive drunkard will become since so much of the booze ingame is worth more than 1 minute/point towards the title.