Graphics Card without blowing all my Christmas Money.

SnipiousMax

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So a completely new and shiny computer (preferably with glowing blue things) is gonna have to wait a bit. I'd like to replace my Nvidia 7600gs with something a little more current, but don't want to spend more than $75.00. Is it possible to get a decent card around that price? I'm not looking for anything fancy, but I'd like to play some of the more modern games without sacrificing to much.

The rest of my computer isn't exactly a Gem either (Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 / 1.86 GHz, 2 gigs 533 MHz ddr2 ram) so I'm wondering if the Video Card is even the bottleneck?

Improvavel

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I would look for a nvidia Geforce 8600 GT or an ati 3850/3870. Should give a nice boost over that 7600gs.

You can also look on overclocking a bit ur processor.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125244

cheap and very powerful. what's really nice is that it doesn't require additional power, which means its guaranteed to work with the rest of your components.

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I have had my eye on that exact card that Moriz posted... it will give you a good bit of bang for your buck and enable you to play the newer games at a pretty decent rate too.... far better than your current card.

Improvavel - fyi the 8600 GT is not much better than the 7600 GS - I had the 7600 and now have the 8600GTS (actually better than the GT) and the performance increase is not very much. :/

SnipiousMax

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Quote:
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125244

cheap and very powerful. what's really nice is that it doesn't require additional power, which means its guaranteed to work with the rest of your components.
Awesome, thats exactly what I was looking for.

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I would go for ati radeon 4670

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125244

Blackhearted

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Personally i'd spend an extra $10 for a 9600 instead of a 4600 series. But then again, that's cause i prefer full upgrades instead of half upgrades, which is what you get with a 4600. But to each his own.

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Half upgrade?

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Personally i'd spend an extra $10 for a 9600 instead of a 4600 series. But then again, that's cause i prefer full upgrades instead of half upgrades, which is what you get with a 4600. But to each his own.
true, but you'll want to spend another $60 or so upgrading to a new power supply. without knowing how powerful the OP's current PSU is, the 4670 is the best upgrade available.

SnipiousMax

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without knowing how powerful the OP's current PSU is
Its this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371002

A sleazy sales rep convinced me I needed it for the 7600gs.

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yeah, that one is pretty good. you can take blackhearted's advice and get a geforce 9600GT if you wish... though it is more expensive (and more powerful).

SnipiousMax

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Other than taking up two slots, how is this card here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127333

I've never owned a MSI vid card before. Anyone know anything about the brand?

moriz

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they are ok for the most part.

keep in mind that the 9600GT does come in single slot form. that might be better for you.

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I've never owned a MSI vid card before. Anyone know anything about the brand?
They are pretty good, I got 2 8800GTS from MSI and am quite happy with them... no problems at all.

Of course, they are not like XFX or EVGA, but still pretty good.

SnipiousMax

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^ If EVGA is a better brand there is this one at the same price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9600gt&x=0&y=0

How does it compare with the MSI one?

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Get that card. You will not regret the purchase.

SnipiousMax

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Dupe, I'm a noob.

SnipiousMax

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What is the difference between these two cards?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130393
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130424

They are all the same brand, same card, same memory, same core speed, around the same price, but there are little differences here and there.

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other than the type of coolers, there are no difference, at least on paper.

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However Snipious, I must point out... If you are going to spend 105 bucks on a 9600GT, it would be rather silly not to take advantage of the amazing deals to be had on a 9800GT, which has very close to the same power requirements that the 9600GT has (a difference of 15-38 watts depending on distributor design)

Here you go, case in point:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130397

A ten dollar difference for that performance gain is absurd not to buy. It would be quite silly to pass up a price like that.

SnipiousMax

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^^ I'm already bottlenecking my processor with the very first suggested card, but I can't argue with logic!

Improvavel

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Improvavel - fyi the 8600 GT is not much better than the 7600 GS - I had the 7600 and now have the 8600GTS (actually better than the GT) and the performance increase is not very much. :/
I meant the 9600 GT. Too many 8xxx and 9xxx that are only shrinks or re-designations...

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Ummm... the 9600GT will SLAUGHTER the 7600GS, and I mean SLAUGHTER it.

They are not just shrinks and/or re-designations in many cases. Some are, simply because that market segment doesn't need anything new (which in turn means higher priced)

The 9600GT is extremely similar to the 8600GT, with a few minor modifications to improve performance and a die shrink, yes. The 9800GT is not nearly as similar to the 8800GT.

And Snipious, you will not be bottlenecking your processor anymore than you would be with a 9600GT. The 9800GT I linked to is the absolute best buy around right now. Get it.

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yes the 9600GT will slaughter the 7600GS, hands down, it also slaughters the 8600GT, by nearly as much. lol

this 9600GT at $70 may be the best buy in your budget range....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127333

or the Gigabyte 4670 on Newegg @ $55 if you want to save more money and lose a little performance.

SnipiousMax

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While I'm at it, should I upgrade my RAM as well? It's really really cheap for some 800 DDR2.

SnipiousMax

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130380

^This is the card I ended up getting, comes in another four days.

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Great!

And yes, why not up your RAM to 4 GB. Dump the RAM you have and get 4 gigs of 800MHz.

SnipiousMax

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Everything is freaking awesome. Totally worth it. Thanks for the recommendations (with a tip of the hat to Rahja for talking me into the 9800).

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The 9800GT is a great card, hands down. It is also one of the best buys on the market currently. Glad you are impressed with the performance. A RAM upgrade would do you a lot of good, as Snoggy said.

Check out this RAM for on the cheapz:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231192

The fact that Gskill completely destroys any other RAM manufacturer right now speaks for itself. That isn't even mentioning that at 4-4-4-12 timings, this kit blows away everything with ease.