Asuran Scan or Pain inverter?

Y Tim K

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Enternal Dragon

D/W

Ok well i am going to try and start vanquishing and doing all missions in HM for Masters. I have both of these skills but I dont know which one to bring on my Dervish, and my current bar already has 2 PvE skills that are required so I have a extra spot open for a third PvE skill.


So which do you think I should use?

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

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Pain Inverter any day, hands down. It became a mandatory skill on my bar for HM, it can handle elementalists in particular extremely well, since they always do +80dmg on hit and hit multiple targets, it's fairly common for them to kill themselvs almost instantly, even more if you're running an MM. Also, it's also a must for bosses.

Seraphim Angel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Sacred Knights of Orr [SKoO]

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Pain Inverter! A top 5 skill in terms of effectiveness in all of the game. Possibly top 3.

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

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I'm assuming your running [[save yourselves], so what is the other skill that you need? Between these two, [[pain inverter], but [[asuran scan], is stupid good.

here to troll

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

aura of holy might i think savage nornbear

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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I prefer to prevent large amounts of damage instead of returning it. So I'd say Asuran Scan over Pain Inverter. I always take a Monk with Protective Spirit and a Ranger, Mesmer, or combination of the 2 with interrupts. Not much fun to get half your team wiped out or more just to do large amounts of damage to an enemy.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

if you can handle the energy run asuran scan. scythe+AoHM+scan=lol am hittin u wif mah sithe

Y Tim K

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Enternal Dragon

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by here to troll View Post
aura of holy might i think savage nornbear
lol I am sorry but I didnt understand what you said?

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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I take Pain Inverter just because I like seeing strings of pretty yellow numbers on my screen. Pain Inverter + any AoE + minions = lol kthx byebye.

I do like the scan too, though.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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lol double post

The Red Messenger

The Red Messenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

America

on a dervish? neither. what kind of bar are you using anyway?

on the average bar pain inverter>scan, but derv really should use neither one. i would focus on increasing damage with each scythe attack.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger View Post
on a dervish? neither. what kind of bar are you using anyway?

on the average bar pain inverter>scan, but derv really should use neither one. i would focus on increasing damage with each scythe attack.
LOL, no, I didn't mean on my derv. She's my main, but I play almost every class in the game.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

I usually take Pain Inverter because I like seeing all the numbers come up when the enemies wipe themselves. But as I often say "Remember, PI has to cause pain to have it inverted". It works best if you have tanks that can sustain the damage, or pets that can be rezzed afterwards, or disposable minions. Otherwise, Asuran Scan is probably better.

take_me

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

Pain Inverter. I just love to see those high lvl Eles nuke themselves^^
...and it makes killing many Bosses a lot easier.

X Shadow Reaper

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Pain Inverter made killing the end bosses in hm dungeons way easier......

Tuesday

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Generation Of Legends [EviL]

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Pain Inverter all the way. Pwns eles in a matter of seconds.

Y Tim K

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Enternal Dragon

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lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

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I think it depends what char you're playing.

Pain Inverter is a more passive skill to use, fire-and-forget and casting it on recharge. It fits on a caster bar better than melee. The foe does the damage to himself.

For melee chars Asuran Scan works very nicely, since it increases the damage output quite heavily, especially with Asura maxed. It will also form part of your normal skill setups and activations while in battle while you are now putting out damage, especially with having Aura of Holy Might already. You can easy go into 100+ damage digits with these 2 skills. And with enemies in a ball around you when you hit, watch the pretty yellow numbers.

I like both.

Pain Inverter I normally use if no other skills are available from primary or sec lines, especially on casters.

Try both and see for yourself.