A Treatise on how to stop Botting in JQ and/or FA

Rife

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ok so maybe not a treatise just an idea. Why not a feature that requires typing in a word. Like when you create email accounts. Every time you try to enter a match you need to retype a word that appears on the screen. The botting is getting really bad.

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

oh lol i hate those things o.O

So no!











Bah!


Fair idea however... not sure it was ever a proplemo

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

No. It'd only start a cat and mouse game between ANet and botters. For other websites, there's bots which can extract the picture of one of those, submit it to a certain website like Decaptcher, and it sends back the word that's contained in the picture, which the bot then inputs. I'm fairly certain something like that could be adapted for GW...

Rife

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2008

Well something like that. Maybe a simple question like what is 2+2. Anything, there has to be something that can be done that would be simple for a human but impossible for a bot. It's really bad. Over half of the people are bots in my experience. My strategy consists of helping the bots now. If you get to the yellow shrine first you usually win.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

if bots can move, they can press a couple letters to make a word.

While bots is an issue that needs fixing, this is not really going to help.

Rife

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2008

Yes they can type words, but only repetitively. If the question changes they would not be able to adapt. Are we not smart enough to think of a device that humans can do that bots can not? If you don't like my idea please suggest your own. I'm trying to open up a discussion. I think the bots are so good, most people don't even notice.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Introduce random events a la runescape imo.

Yes, it's a crappy game and this and that (Even tough it ouclasses GW on pretty much every aspect BUT graphics, and I play both games, so I can tell from a neutral point of view) but Jagex (Runescape's Anet) maneged to destroy botting. There still is ALOT of botting going on, but remember, making in account in runescape is free, and doesn't take long at all to set-up a bot.

In Guild Wars, I doubt people will trying 1 more time after they got perm banned for botting.

Anyways, about these random events, it's a really basic array of minigames, which occure randomly every XX hours, and require some brain tought. E.G.: Kill the demon in the next room, and then a room filled with reg "people" enemies, and then a demon.

Bad example, but you get the point. Something a BOT SIMPLY CAN'T DO. Also, DON'T copy Jagex' idea to give shitty rewards, and actually make them worthwhile, so you don't iss off the regular community. (So many QQ threads about randoms on their forums it's not even funny, they simply ARN'T FUN to do time after time again, when there is no good reward)

original.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

{FoU} fate of unwanted

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed u man View Post
Introduce random events a la runescape imo.

Yes, it's a crappy game and this and that (Even tough it ouclasses GW on pretty much every aspect BUT graphics, and I play both games, so I can tell from a neutral point of view) but Jagex (Runescape's Anet) maneged to destroy botting. There still is ALOT of botting going on, but remember, making in account in runescape is free, and doesn't take long at all to set-up a bot.

In Guild Wars, I doubt people will trying 1 more time after they got perm banned for botting.

Anyways, about these random events, it's a really basic array of minigames, which occure randomly every XX hours, and require some brain tought. E.G.: Kill the demon in the next room, and then a room filled with reg "people" enemies, and then a demon.

Bad example, but you get the point. Something a BOT SIMPLY CAN'T DO. Also, DON'T copy Jagex' idea to give shitty rewards, and actually make them worthwhile, so you don't iss off the regular community. (So many QQ threads about randoms on their forums it's not even funny, they simply ARN'T FUN to do time after time again, when there is no good reward)
you seriously should think about your statement that runescape is better than guild wars in every aspect but graphics, i know it is your opinion but this is just not true.
about the whole botting part?
nerf JQ/FA, e.g introduce a new foe or something like that. maybe even something like you require 2 or more players to do JQ/JA as in pre-searings "across the wall" (although it screws up single players but hey, its GUILD wars after all)

~Ori

Bobulation

Bobulation

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

USA

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by original. View Post
nerf JQ/FA, e.g introduce a new foe or something like that. maybe even something like you require 2 or more players to do JQ/JA as in pre-searings "across the wall" (although it screws up single players but hey, its GUILD wars after all)

~Ori
.....Do you know what JQ/FA are....?

original.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

{FoU} fate of unwanted

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobulation View Post
.....Do you know what JQ/FA are....?
o yes, was confused with the faction farms :/
just ignore my above post then

Travek Lavv

Travek Lavv

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Here, watching, always.

[NPF]

W/

uh, theres a pretty simple way to ban the d*mn leeches/bots. Most of them leech for long segments of time. Ie "Remember Lots Wife" or "Jum Rock". These guys sit and leech/bot for hours. Just look for names that may not get enough reports during a round but who consistantly get reported every round and tada: every leech in the arena pops up. ban. kthnxsbai. It doesnt take much investigation to go ingame and observe ppl like Lot running his crappy bot script.

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rife View Post
Well something like that. Maybe a simple question like what is 2+2. Anything, there has to be something that can be done that would be simple for a human but impossible for a bot.
Still won't work. What happens is when the bot submits the picture, a HUMAN who's JOB is to work for that website inputs the correct answer and returns it. You normally have to pay for the website, though...

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

this all sounds like QQ to me. /shrug -Lena

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

This would be really gay. Anet could rather just stop wanking and ban these bots. There was this 'Oh Yo' bot in DA which reported for leeching and botting EVERY MATCH and he didnt get banned during the festival (2week duration, nice). And later he also showed up in FA...

JASON626

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

leechers are just as bad if not worse. People who sit at there computer watch tv or do some type of work paying minimal attention to GW.

I wouldn't care if i clicked ENTER battle then had to type a word. Takes a whole 4 seconds?

A Non Ymous

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
this all sounds like QQ to me. /shrug -Lena
Your opinion comes as no real suprise considering how much time you spend leech-botting in JQ. We know you don't care if you get /reported as all you lose is the Kurz faction and you have maxed the title. No, you are there for the Balth faction for your Z-title. Leech-botting is a liability to your teammates trying to win the battle. This is why I and many in my alliance have reported you numerous times to help.plaync.com complete with screenshots, dates, times, and a description of your method and the districts you were botting from. We are keeping our fingers crossed in hopes of a ban.

Tetrazon

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rife View Post
Ok so maybe not a treatise just an idea. Why not a feature that requires typing in a word. Like when you create email accounts. Every time you try to enter a match you need to retype a word that appears on the screen. The botting is getting really bad.
That's when I hit log off.

warrior running

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Cape Is A Lie[Trim]

W/E

Anet will never be able to get rid of bots all it takes is someone smarter then anet

MStarfire

MStarfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

[SOS]

Rt/

Someone once suggested that we should compound the penalties if you try to enter PvP arenas when you're Dishonoured. I think this is the best idea.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

permanent ban

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

decent idea but with those a lot of time i have to refresh a half dozen times til i get one i can actually read

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed u man View Post
Introduce random events a la runescape imo.

Yes, it's a crappy game and this and that (Even tough it ouclasses GW on pretty much every aspect BUT graphics, and I play both games, so I can tell from a neutral point of view) but Jagex (Runescape's Anet) maneged to destroy botting. There still is ALOT of botting going on, but remember, making in account in runescape is free, and doesn't take long at all to set-up a bot.

In Guild Wars, I doubt people will trying 1 more time after they got perm banned for botting.

Anyways, about these random events, it's a really basic array of minigames, which occure randomly every XX hours, and require some brain tought. E.G.: Kill the demon in the next room, and then a room filled with reg "people" enemies, and then a demon.

Bad example, but you get the point. Something a BOT SIMPLY CAN'T DO. Also, DON'T copy Jagex' idea to give shitty rewards, and actually make them worthwhile, so you don't iss off the regular community. (So many QQ threads about randoms on their forums it's not even funny, they simply ARN'T FUN to do time after time again, when there is no good reward)
I would quit Guild Wars in a second if ANet implemented a similar system as Jagex did for Runescape. Yes, they managed to get rid of bots, but at a very high cost. They removed many good (by good I mean good in runescape, not good in general) aspects of the game, which lost them tens of thousands of members.

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by warrior running View Post
Anet will never be able to get rid of bots all it takes is someone smarter then anet
while the solution is simply:
Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
permanent ban
conclusion: yes anet is retarded and cant figure out how to bannish leechers.


Quote:
Originally Posted by MStarfire View Post
Someone once suggested that we should compound the penalties if you try to enter PvP arenas when you're Dishonoured. I think this is the best idea.
If you mean like deleting title points. No. You can get dishonor from disconnecting, reporting leechers and being the only one who does etc.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

have everyone report known botters in the match.....if ur afraid that u may be wrong, then u shouldn't be accusing someone. there is a /report leech for a reason. c'mon now...

Auron of Neon

Auron of Neon

cool story bro

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mililani

yumy

captchas are bad irl

having to do them every single time you loaded into jq would be ridiculous

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc View Post
have everyone report known botters in the match.....if ur afraid that u may be wrong, then u shouldn't be accusing someone. there is a /report leech for a reason. c'mon now...
You forget that many people are totally retarded and don't report bots. ESPECIALLY in FA/JQ.