Petname Policy

II Lucky Charm II

II Lucky Charm II

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Seoul, Korea

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First of all, I'm not religiously biased when I'm writing this thread so please understand.

Recently, I have been exploring the pet naming policy and it seems that Anet does NOT respect other religions as much as Christianity. In naming your pets, you cannot name them "JESUS," however you can name them after the main figure of Buddhism - "Gautama" or "Siddhartha." Why would Anet block the name "Jesus" and not block Gautama or Siddhartha? (Gautama Siddhartha is the full name of the Buddha. I'm sure Jesus has a full name too but it seems like part of his name can't even be used in naming pets). To me, this is a clear sign of religious discrimination on Anet's side. This is DISRESPECTFUL to Buddhism. Imagine IF you could name your pets "JESUS" and let them die in battles. I'm sure it would be offensive to Christianity as well. I am well aware of the fact that this is a video game. I have a solution to this but I don't think Anet is listening to me.
My solution:
Ban all the main figures of all the other religions (I believe there are more than one million) OR lift all religious restrictions on naming pets.

Please express your thoughts and views on this issues and also please keep your flames to a minimum and stay on topic. If you have free time on your side, please help me by experimenting with different MAIN figures names of your religions. I am trying to get Anet to solve this issue.

Keep this question in mind when you respond: Would you like to name your pets after your religious figures and let them go into battle and die? Would that not be offensive to you at all?

kostolomac

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Or allow all names? Now that you say , naming my pet Jesus would be awesome

captain_carter

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Buddhism is not a religion.


If somone finds it offensive, and reports it, it will be banned. If this doesn't happen, it won't.
Seems like a far easier way to go about it than hours of research to find all the names of all these figures, and then to input them all at once.

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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II View Post
Would you like to name your pets after your religious figures and let them go into battle and die? Would that not be offensive to you at all?
No, that would be a dum name for my pet, I'd look pretty stupid.
Not really. But neither would naming a teddy bear Muhammed, or a child Jesus, or your mum Mary.

II Lucky Charm II

II Lucky Charm II

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Originally Posted by captain_carter View Post
Buddhism is not a religion...
Buddhism is one of the Major Religions. Google "Major Religions" or go look in any educational textbooks about religions, I'm 100% sure Buddhism will be on there.

FengShuiDove

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Most religious figures share a name with many other people in both history and current times. Jesus (as in Hay-soos) is a popular Latin name in any number of Spanish speaking cultures. I assume the same to be true for most other, if not all religious figures.

Also a factor to consider is that GW is played in many different languages where the translations and spellings are different. This is why curse words in other languages often slip through the filter. It would only make sense to allow all of these to be permissible then.

Still, I appreciate the consideration of ANet to not let people use the name. Nothing's sacred anymore and it would probably be abused just because. An argument could be made either way using any number of factors, but ultimately, this seems like a pretty much moot issue overall.

Clarissa F

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Considering the name Asura comes from one of the five beings of reincarnation in Buddhism, it's doubtful their religious sensitivity runs Asian. Name your Stalker Muhammad, however...

It's always been a matter of threats, either physical or legal, that motivates these. Though it would be funny to hear in Urgoz, "I'm sacrificing Jesus!", "Jesus is risen from the dead!"

Yeah, if there's a Hell, I got a room.

Edit: Like Christianity in the beginning, Buddhism wasn't a religion. It became one, however, when the Tibetans and Chinese got a hold of it and used it to placate the masses(Amida, or Pure Land, Buddhism, and Tibetan Buddhism). The Tibetans believe their holy leader has been reincarnated 16 times! You don't call that belief system a religion? Just because it differs from your judeo-Christian ideas of what a religion is, doesn't mean it isn't one.

zwei2stein

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Quote:
Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II View Post
Buddhism is one of the Major Religions. Google "Major Religions" or go look in any educational textbooks about religions, I'm 100% sure Buddhism will be on there.
Something being Google result does not equal it to be true.

Buddishm is best described as philosophy. Equaling it to religion is only show of ignorance.

(Tibetian Buddism is mostly the way it is because it, unfortunatelly, fused with native religion that was there before that. But anyone following original teachings should be pretty free of supernatural mumbo jumbo)

kostolomac

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Originally Posted by Clarissa F View Post
"I'm sacrificing Jesus!", "Jesus is risen from the dead!"
I lol'd , does this mean I go to hell?

Silverhand

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Buddishm is best described as philosophy. Equaling it to religion is only show of ignorance.
i agree that it is best described as philosophy
however i studied this in my ap history class and there are certain forms of buddhism that do regard him as a god


also i think Jesus just has a deeper meaning to people in America
especially since we just had a huge holiday regarding His birth

DarkFlame

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Rather then saying Anet doesn't respect other religions, I'd say they simply do not know those names. You'd forgive them for mostly being white Americans not exposed much to a religion not dominate in this part of the world.

I'm sure if you do /report such instances when you see them, they'll be happy to swing the ban hammer and get around to updating the name filters.

Clarissa F

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Something being Google result does not equal it to be true.

Buddishm is best described as philosophy. Equaling it to religion is only show of ignorance.
Most minds on this matter might disagree with you. However, if you need a little help on the matter:

dictionary.com:

religion-

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and shits like a duck, it's a duck. They don't make temples to Kant, Descartes, or Aristotle, or have practices such as chanting "Om mani padme hum", similar to a nun sitting silent counting the rosary. Just because they use a different path in their religion, doesn't mean they aren't both religions.

Don't call someone ignorant, when they have good factual basis for their ideas.

Yang Whirlwind

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This is just another angle of an issue that have existed for as long as GW has: The lists are incomplete! Do you think they have had ten people working around the clock for several years coming up with names to disallow? I'm sure Odin, Thor and the rest of the Norse Mythology is not disallowed either. As Aser Lore is a recognized church in Denmark, some might take offense of someone naming a pet after the Great Father: Odin.
I've also seen several names in Danish that would be considered offensive by the fainthearted.

As always: report the name if you find it offensive! If you don't,- ignore it!

To answer OP's question: no, I would not find that offensive!

Tushi

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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They have to allow u use deity names, or its against the law. in poland or german you can go to jail for it.

zwei2stein

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarissa F View Post
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If it quacks and walks like a duck, it it is just something that quacks and walks like duck.

Mantras that you mentioned have different meaning than rosary.

Rosary is prayer, plain and simple, pruporse is to come closer to god and talk to him.
Mantra is supposed to cleanse your mind so that you can think in calm state. Similar to way that some people free their mind from stress by listening to hard rock.

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Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind View Post
This is just another angle of an issue that have existed for as long as GW has: The lists are incomplete! Do you think they have had ten people working around the clock for several years coming up with names to disallow? I'm sure Odin, Thor and the rest of the Norse Mythology is not disallowed either. As Aser Lore is a recognized church in Denmark, some might take offense of someone naming a pet after the Great Father: Odin.
I've also seen several names in Danish that would be considered offensive by the fainthearted.

As always: report the name if you find it offensive! If you don't,- ignore it!
If was able to make character named Kundalini Kumari. With pet named Kundulu.

Not only are those names of various gods, they all also double as indecent reference to female genitals.

Beat this!

Nessar

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It wouldnt offended me at all. Infact I could careless what people name their pets. I wouldn't name my pet after a religious god anyway, unless it was tied to my chars lore.
If its gonna offend you that your pet named *insert deity name* died in battle, why would you name it that in the first place...? Its going to die anyway unless its on heel, being healed constantly, or you never take it out...People confuse me :I

masterjer1

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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All religions are flawed. This is 1 of the 2 topics that you never discuss while drinking. The other being politics. ANet stands behind their own standards that they may pick and choose from. As for religious names, I see no wrong in it for pets or toons.

makosi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by captain_carter View Post
If somone finds it offensive, and reports it, it will be banned. If this doesn't happen, it won't.
This. All of these 'grey-area' religously drawn names are a touchy subject although I personally find none of them offensive because I live my life by logic, reasoning and rationale. Everyone knows that naming your character or pet with a risqué name will come with a, ummm, risk of offending someone out there who chooses stories over reasoning in their daily life.

If I were to name my new pet Jinglebear Bipolar Bear it would be a properly risqué name because bipolar people genuinely suffer in their lives unlike Jesus, whose suffering, and existence, is debatable.

PC has gone waaay too far in this day and age.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

I am very religious but...

I don't care what you name your pet or, for the most part, your toon either.

If I find your pet name offensive I can just zone back to town and not join a party with you and I'll never see it again - big deal.

As to your toon, unless your name advocates cruelty to other human beings, It doesn't bother me either.

Interesting thing in life, I have found that those who are not religious have an inflated sense of what religious people might find offensive.

Konig Des Todes

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Quote:
Originally Posted by captain_carter View Post
Buddhism is not a religion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Buddishm is best described as philosophy. Equaling it to religion is only show of ignorance.
Buddhism is in fact a religion. It has an afterlife and "supernatural" teachings just as much as Christianity and Hinduism. Taoism and Confucianism on the other hand, are more of philosophies, even though they are considered religions as well in many cases. Although it can be argued that Buddhism is a philosophy, the same can be said about Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

But it can be said that Religion and Philosophy are one in the same. Because this:
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Originally Posted by Clarissa F View Post
dictionary.com:

religion-

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Sounds a lot like philosophy to me.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Mantras that you mentioned have different meaning than rosary.

Rosary is prayer, plain and simple, pruporse is to come closer to god and talk to him.
Mantra is supposed to cleanse your mind so that you can think in calm state. Similar to way that some people free their mind from stress by listening to hard rock.
Prayer can be viewed as a method to "cleanse" your mind. Prayer, to some - myself included - is simply meditation. Mantra is meditation.

In simplicity:
Philosophy is one's belief in life and is what said person strives to set his/her life to.
Religion is one's belief about life, is what said person strives to set his/her life to, and is reassurance about what happens after life.

Going back to Buddhism, the idea of Nirvana is afterlife, and is therefore more than just a philosophy. It is a religion.

Karuro

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Originally Posted by DarkFlame View Post
Rather then saying Anet doesn't respect other religions, I'd say they simply do not know those names.
Going with this. This is the first time I've heard of those names too.

Unreal Havoc

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Pretty dumb really when you can name your characters after egyptian gods.

upier

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Done.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II View Post
Keep this question in mind when you respond: Would you like to name your pets after your religious figures and let them go into battle and die? Would that not be offensive to you at all?
Now why would I want to do that?
Sugarlumps, Sweetypie and Honeybunny are all the petnames I need!

Master Knightfall

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Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Keep this question in mind when you respond: Would you like to name your pets after your religious figures and let them go into battle and die? Would that not be offensive to you at all?
No it would not be offensive to me. This is a silly topic as names do not a religious sect make. There are already plenty of people in the world named Jesus btw. Many are hispanic and of course it's pronouced Hay Suse, but, that's beside the point. They could argue they want to name their pet after them. Frankly there's all too much complaining and griping and reporting about every little detail now in life that doesn't make a hill of beans. Words, names only hurt/bother you if YOU let them. You want to be upset, YOU make yourself upset not Anet. It's quite easy to control your emotions if you really want to. It's also quite easy to overlook anything pertaining to words or names as well. YOU *(OP) made an issue out of this because YOU wanted to. Notice nobody else made the thread before you.

[Morkai]

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Religion based threads on Forums always end badly.

Arduin

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Well, if religious names were to be blocked, all my characters would need a namechange; all of them borrowed one or two names of Celtic Deities. (Arduinna, Druantia, Gwydion, Lugh....). Not to mention my Pet, Arawn.

AKB48

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Quote:
Originally Posted by captain_carter View Post
Buddhism is not a religion.
Are you seriously mental retarded or are you trying to act like a brainless idiot?
Buddhism is one of the biggest religion in Asia, go look it up on wiki. It's pathetic to see there are people out there as brainless as you are, and a shame to see he/she uses GW

But back to the OP. I don't think this is as big as a problem as you are making it to be. Most people don't name their pets after religious names, mainly because they don't even know/they don't give a dam if they do. So just leave the thing as it is right now, as long as no one is complaining, it's all good. Anet cannot fix every little thing, give it a break for once, its New Year[almost]. (Also, even a wounded dog would howl, so certainly a angered man/woman would complain)

tmakinen

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Quote:
Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II View Post
Why would Anet block the name "Jesus" and not block Guatama or Siddharta?
For the same reason that they don't block "Juses Cristus"?

Siddhartha Gautama is still the official transliteration.

Snow Bunny

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Buddhism is a religion, stop being idiots.

Continue on with your rather pointless discussion.

Lawliet Kira

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Quote:
Originally Posted by captain_carter View Post
Buddhism is not a religion.
That made me lol, i have a college textbook with me says Buddhism is one of the major religions of Asia.

makosi

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I wouldn't consider Buddhism a religion either. It's a way of life instead based on good morals, ethics and elimination of desire so as to avoid unhappiness. It's not filled with magical fairytales and stories so much as it is based on purposeful anecdotes.

Religions are believed, phiolosphies are lived.

shoyon456

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Buddhism can be both a religion and a philosophy.

The reason you cannot name your pet Jesus is because Christianity is one of the major religions in the world. They aren't discriminating, they are preventing the majority from becoming oppressive in a game that most ppl go to escape such problems in the world.

Kamatsu

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As this thread has degenerated into a discussion about whether or not Buddhism is a religion or not, and is completely off-topic now..

Thread Closed.