E/N for Orders

I like the idea
maybe [glyph of swiftness] to keep up [ether renewal]? Heroes are dumb. It wouldn't work unless microed

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Why micro? Which brings me to the question:
If heroes use that correctly, what about Ether Renewal? Is it confirmed they use it like an orders derv uses Arcane Zeal? They function very similarly, so I am not sure.

Which brings me to the question:
If heroes use that correctly, what about Ether Renewal? Is it confirmed they use it like an orders derv uses Arcane Zeal? They function very similarly, so I am not sure. I haven't used an ether renewal hero in a while but I believe they used it decently, just don't expect them to use Glyph of swiftness before it all the time if at all. IOW, you gotta micro with an ele hero.

If you use a Major Storage rune and have a +20% enchant weapon ER last 24s, the 6s of downtime of ether renewal will not hurt the ele's energy supply - especially seeing as he will have so much due to the high energy storage. I would suggest a build like this:

[build prof=E/N energy=12+1+2 Blood=12 pve][Order of Pain][Dark Fury][Blood Ritual][Blood Bond][Strip Enchantment][Energy Blast][Aura of Restoration][Ether Renewal][/build]

Energy blast/Blood bond are changeable for other skills. That looks a little too taxing on the health. Besides heroes dont always cast ER on their own as soon as it renews unlike arcane zeal or pious renewal. ER Orders Ele played by a human is fine, but I doubt Ele heroes are the best choice for an orders build. I prefer an orders N/Rt hero for Splinter Weapon support.

If you use a Major Storage rune and have a +20% enchant weapon ER last 24s, the 6s of downtime of ether renewal will not hurt the ele's energy supply - especially seeing as he will have so much due to the high energy storage. I would suggest a build like this:

[build prof=E/N energy=12+1+2 Blood=12 pve][Order of Pain][Dark Fury][Blood Ritual][Blood Bond][Strip Enchantment][Energy Blast][Aura of Restoration][Ether Renewal][/build]

Energy blast/Blood bond are changeable for other skills. Interesting, needs some imporvement but Im liking the idea of blood bond.

That looks a little too taxing on the health. Besides heroes dont always cast ER on their own as soon as it renews unlike arcane zeal or pious renewal. ER Orders Ele played by a human is fine, but I doubt Ele heroes are the best choice for an orders build. I prefer an orders N/Rt hero for Splinter Weapon support.
Bear in mind that with Aura of Resto they gain 400% of the energy cost back as healing, with a 10 energy skill thats 40 health, combined with 60 (assuming you only have 3 enchants on at the time, the order, aura and ER - in reality you're likely to be under Blood Bond and maybe enchantments from other sources) from ER, thats 100 health back with each cast. Admittedly this may be a little trying on health as with this build the hero will probably be at about 500-550 max health (with the 17% sac removing about 80-90 health) but combined with the use of other non-sac skills (energy blast, blood bond, ER, Aura, Strip Enchant) which will gain health without sacrificing every time they're used, and with Strip occasionally hitting you with a bit of health gain the hero will probably pull though.

Blood bond may be a bit much to handle - I've not tried it yet - its just theorycrafting though, try it and see. Also, I'd disable blood ritual so it can be manually used when needed.


I often use a ER prot/smiter and their energy is managed absolutely fine, even when theyre maintaining [[Strength of Honor] and casting with [[Zealot's Fire]. He seems to maintain ER when he can.