Remains of Sahlajah

Because everyone else if farming Wintersday (barf) I started going to collect armor remnants. It took 2 days in Dajkah to get 4 remnants and finish out my first 5 heroes. I have been 3 days now in Remains of Sahlajah and I have not seen a single Lost Soul spawn once. Maddened Souls that eventually kill you I see plenty. I have not in 3 days seen a single Lost Soul spawn.

Guild Wars used to be a game. Now it is nothing except farm wars, with the goals for which you are required to farm being made ever more unobtainable. Farm Wars, the game we now all play, is filled with things that one is not meant to be able to accomplish. Remains of Sahlajah is a perfect example of the prolbems in the entire game. Nothing is happening in a reasonable time frame for play to be anything except drudgery.

Skills are constantly nerfed to prevent players from being successful. Where farming cooperatively can be done, such as VSF, skills are nerfed to ensure no one can accomplish anything or acquire anything. Denying player achievement has become the observable primary and sole purpose of the developers and their nerf bat. They establish goals, which the casual player is supposed to be able to participate in, and then place limitations which make it near impossible to achieve even for those who play in avocation. The concept of reasonable time and reasonable effort are completely and utterly foreign to the game of Farm Wars.

Given that it took 2 days, and hundreds of dead Guild Lords to acquire 4 Sunspear Remnants, I can expect thousands of years at Remains of Sahlajah since to kill even one Lost Soul it would first have to Spawn!

They need to back down on the bull game wide and start making things attainable with reasonable effort. And the meth freaks that play the game for 80 hours straight and type how, "Mmmaan n n i i it waaas soooo aaaahsum ezz zz z zz, i i it mm muss ss sst b b be yoooOOOOoooo," don't count as either casual players or examples of reasonable effort.

how about, instead of wasting 80 hours on trying to get it, which is farming, farm something for two hours and spend the 20k you made(or more if you do more lucrative farming runs, ie Underworld/uw sc)

Just did this 10 mins ago to test, worked for me. A lost soul showed up no problem.

Just did it again and not one lost soul spawned. Not one! They do not spawn.

And Here to Troll, if you are farming you are not playing. I am attempting with reasonable effort and reasonable play to get remnants through play. If I have to go purchase them then the game is a failure. If I cannot get what I am after in game established goals through reasonable effort and reasonable play then the game is broken.

The drop rate on armor remnants gets lower and lower the more you do the mission, or after having gotten so many.

Its something they added to these so people couldn't just farm armor remnants. These are supposed to be your heroes elite armor sets, they aren't just going to hand them to you on a silver platter.

If you've reached some sort of limit that they set on one character, try another.

Madden soul also give you armor remenent, a bit trickier to kill them, but very much possible.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rema..._%28mission%29

Just buy the stuff, they aren't THAT expensive, and stop whine how you spend XX hours trying to get some X that you can never get and start to actually think of a way to solve the situation. Guru isn't here for you to whine you ass off.

See it this way: I spent the same two days farming the mini polar bear, got it, sold it for 1600 ecto and don't have to grind any more.

I thought this was common knowledge. If you are not getting any armor on a character anymore, switch. Each character is only allowed so many pieces of armor. Same thing with Dajkeh Inlet.

If we took out the QQ threads and the truly banal threads there would be no threads left.

Your solution is of course the correct one. If it takes hours to farm up a cheap item, go do something more efficient and then buy the cheap item with the proceeds.

Realistically speaking, if you are going into an area with the sole purpose of obtaining a certain item, YOU are farming, an action for which you condemn everyone and the game.

Upgrading a hero's armor is nice, don't get me wrong. It also allows you to place a statue of said hero in your HoM. But it is NOT a part of the game, period. It is a side benefit, a bragging rights perk only.

Then why are you playing Grind Wars?

I got 5 armors in one day killing the maddened souls and mapping the area for cartography. How about actually reading the wiki on the mission before coming on here QQ'ing about people doing what they want to do.

The way I see it...change the thread title to Strength of Snow and the object to be farmed to the Mini Polar bear and you'll get what the OP really wanted to get across without having his thread closed.

Killing Maddened Spirits is how you obtain the hero armors in that mission. Regardless, it's not hard at all to find Lost Souls. You can kill them for Lightbringer, I suppose.

Regarding Dajkah Inlet, my experience was that 3-5 plays through that mission produced all the hero armors for the character I played them on. You just have to kill more than the first one or two Guild Lords each time to increase your odds.

Don't complain about the game being broken when the player is the problem.

Exactamant. If I have something not working for me, I tend to research/change up after a few MINUTES, not spend 3 days doggedly hitting it with a blunt spoon and wondering why I'm getting the same results.

It's easy to get caught in the "darn it, all I want is XXX" and forget that sometimes you just need to back off and take a break from whatever it is causing so much grief.

I don't pretend to understand the farming code (if such a thing exists, of course), but I have noticed that some of my characters have a much easier time getting certain drops than others. Maybe it's all coincidence, dunno. It's happened for over three years now, currently 11 'toons.....

I just think they are scared of you and thats why they don't show!!!! :-)

I smell a troll crawling out from 'neath the bridge...bad smelly troll.

Just got a remnant, btw.

If he thinks Sahlahja is bad, wait until he gets to Shadow Nexus...

Play on a different character. A simple trip to the wiki would have told you this.

With Shadow nexus, its not soo bad, the time I was there I notice that I need about 100 point per armor remenent drop, maybe the other two challenge are like that, they drop according to your points..

Just a theory of course, but a small trend I notice when I was there.

The Wiki says to kill the Lost Souls. I have read both wikis. And from Wiki:

Lost Soul (Remains of Sahlahja)

As of just now, I have aquired 2 Armor Remnants, presumably from Maddened Spirits since Lost Souls still have not spawned. And, 4 days is quite too long.

This is something i never understood, people say play on a different character (B) to get more remnants because character (A) has reached his limit of 3 pieces etc That's great, so i use the remnants i get using (B) on character (A). What happens when i want to change the armour on (B) heroes? use character (C)?

You should be able to get at least 5 pieces per character fairly easy without having to resort to swapping to another character. I gave up getting the final 2 pieces for the last 2 nightfall heroes because they just don't drop any more on (A) even if i spend hours trying. i also tried to find someone selling what i needed but people don't seem to play these missions any more and they certainly don't sell the remnants pieces.

I just know I spent like 5 hours trying to get the last 3 pieces I needed (for Norgu, Goren, and Olias, I'd gotten Zenmai and Morgahn theirs long ago). Even got onto the scoreboard a couple of times I think...

You must be reading a different wiki to me because from http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rema..._%28mission%29

And

You answered your own question.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Armor_Remnants

One more mouseclick and you'd have had your answer.

Kill maddened spirits and stop bitching about it on guru.

When NC West ceases to direct all concerns to forums then there will be a reason to quit airing them on Guru. Since they are unwilling and incapable of observing things that are wrong without, and nearly as often with, forum commentary this is where one points out things such as:

Requiring Four Days To Start Getting Drops Is Excessively Poor Customer Support.

This mission is a "challenge mission," an entirely optional mission with optional rewards. It also has a scoreboard, so competition is encouraged. It may be helpful to learn the definition of challenge before asserting that rewards should be distributed based on attendance rather than skill.

Four days is not required to earn rewards in this mission, unless you have not acquired the necessary tactics. Read the guides and practice. There is nothing wrong with the drop rates; they are meant to diminish to nearly zero once you have collected enough for all your heroes on a particular character. To get more, play on another character.

You're a goddamn idiot. Seriously. The mechanism to getting the armor remnants are there...it's not NCsoft's responsibility to make sure you use their program correctly in order to get what you want. You were the one being a moron and not killing the maddened spirits thus not getting a high chance of obtaining what you're going after.

you whine and bitch and just make shitty threads in general

i know this is a shitty post but if it makes you go away then it was worth it.

PLEASE STOP POSTING NOW!

gtfo scrub

Riiiigghhhtttt...

Learn to read lately? I was killing the Maddened Spirits. They were not dropping.

And Mister B, these missions ceased to be optional when they became they way one places heroes in the HoM. When the Heroes can be added without armor remnants being used then these missions will return to being optional.

No, Wish, I do not go away. I do not back up. I do not back down. I stand for what is right no matter how little you approve of it.

From the evidence, you either had shitty luck, or you are full of shit. Either way, the point of this is moot, and it's just another "Fritz bitch on the game" thread.

/lock please?

You said you got two and you didn't even know it, and said "maybe because I killed a few maddened spirits"

Moron.

Domain of Anguish.

So actually you have it the other way around, they used to be the only way to get armor for your NF heroes, now you have the Domain of Anguish. So yeah, they are optional.

I mostly did Domain of Anguish for armors anyways, they look nicer and were easier to get.