I think it would be really funny (and also helpful to the economy) if Arena Net chose to either temporarily shut down UW and FoW, or make the drops absolutely horrible for a few days.
Any comments on this?
Temporary nerf to UW/FoW
Pony Slaystation
Valkyria
omgomgloooooooooolthatsofunny lololol
No. gtfo.
No. gtfo.
Unreal Havoc
Or how about just give players more incentive to play other elite areas instead.
noneedforclevernames
or completely nerf SF..
the only problems are coming from these damn UW speedclears and 2 man FOW runs...and UW is A LOT worst that FOW, since the end-chest can be farmed.
the only problems are coming from these damn UW speedclears and 2 man FOW runs...and UW is A LOT worst that FOW, since the end-chest can be farmed.
Stop The Storm
what would be the point?
to annoy people?
i can think of a million and one other ways to do that
to annoy people?
i can think of a million and one other ways to do that
MirkoTeran
How about they just nerf PvE-only skills, PvE/PvP-split skills and cons... and not just temporary.
zelgadissan
Speedclears need to die but this is certainly not the answer.
Empress Amarox
Do you wake up in the morning and go: "Man, I wish someone would hit me in the face with a bat. That'd be funny!"?
Abedeus
You are insane, right?
Evil Eye
I like how all the pro speedclearers are jumping in.
Arduin
Even more fun: halve all progression to all titles, and clear out everyone's HoM! Now we got a motivation to continue playing! Yay!
Abedeus
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I like how all the pro speedclearers are jumping in.
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Summer.
June 7th.
And it was HM Physical Team DoA clear, 2:31 without Mallyx.
So sorry, your theory is crashing and burning.
SOF
In my opinion, a complete Shadow Form revert would help more than anything...
21 Seconds at 16 Shadow, 60 Seconds recharge & no damage reduction.
Just my two cents. (:
21 Seconds at 16 Shadow, 60 Seconds recharge & no damage reduction.
Just my two cents. (:
FengShuiDove
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In my opinion, a complete Shadow Form revert would help more than anything...
21 Seconds at 16 Shadow, 60 Seconds recharge & no damage reduction. Just my two cents. (: |
I'm really tired of these economy rambling. I'm not suffering because of any of the new things going on. The only people taking a hit are the people doing these runs because there's a slightly higher availability and slightly lower demand for ultra-rare weapons and items.
So... who cares? Nobody in the game would say "meh" if an Eternal Blade dropped out of the UW chest, even with all the farming of the chest going on. ANet thought the VS farm got out of hand and nerfed it. VS are still work quite a bit. Sure, not as much, but that's the tendency of any item when the game no longer introduces new content.
/notsigned, majorly.
Carboplatin
add a few signets of disenchantments in there or other methods that can take off SF.
UW should not be completed in 15min.
Make it at least 1 hour to clear.
UW should not be completed in 15min.
Make it at least 1 hour to clear.
Siirius Black
Why do you guys worry so much about the economy? is not like this game is going to last that long once guild wars 2 comes out (if it comes out).
Martin Alvito
Explain how a temporary disruption of the system does anything constructive.
The most it could possibly do would be to lead to a short-term spike in prices that advantages the already wealthy. If people were rational, even that wouldn't happen and there would be no effect beyond annoying speed clearers.
If the problem is that UW/FoW are too easily cleared, the solution is not to put a Band-Aid on the problem. The solution is to make UW and FoW harder to clear. There are two ways to do that: make the areas harder or nerf skills.
Implication: what you really want is for the devs to finally kill perma-SF, but you either know that opinion won't go over well with this audience, or you don't realize that's what you really want.
The most it could possibly do would be to lead to a short-term spike in prices that advantages the already wealthy. If people were rational, even that wouldn't happen and there would be no effect beyond annoying speed clearers.
If the problem is that UW/FoW are too easily cleared, the solution is not to put a Band-Aid on the problem. The solution is to make UW and FoW harder to clear. There are two ways to do that: make the areas harder or nerf skills.
Implication: what you really want is for the devs to finally kill perma-SF, but you either know that opinion won't go over well with this audience, or you don't realize that's what you really want.
Headchopperz
how about just make a new dungeon / elite area / place like uw/fow
place where u get to from toa etc
but unable to solo
but this place has awsome drops and amazing chests and amazing rewards and amazing new gear...
now that will change the market
(cos u need a team)
and u should make it that u need like 8 diffeent classes to do it
eg it will be different than other places =)
place where u get to from toa etc
but unable to solo
but this place has awsome drops and amazing chests and amazing rewards and amazing new gear...
now that will change the market
(cos u need a team)
and u should make it that u need like 8 diffeent classes to do it
eg it will be different than other places =)
Tyla
Wouldn't that hurt the people who aren't concerned about the economy / pr0 tiemz aswell?
/Signed!
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How about they just nerf PvE-only skills, PvE/PvP-split skills and cons... and not just temporary.
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jackinthe
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how about just make a new dungeon / elite area / place like uw/fow
place where u get to from toa etc but unable to solo but this place has awsome drops and amazing chests and amazing rewards and amazing new gear... now that will change the market (cos u need a team) and u should make it that u need like 8 diffeent classes to do it eg it will be different than other places =) |
upier
/Signed for laughs.
You know the game can not be in good shape if one is willing to agree with a stupid idea like this just for giggles.
You know the game can not be in good shape if one is willing to agree with a stupid idea like this just for giggles.
The Little Viking
I dont get it at all... mess up UW/FoW for a while.. not a good idea.
And whats the deal with people always wanting to BREAK shadow form? Each and every person that complains that shadow form needs to be broken can just as easily make an assassin and do those very same speed runs they gripe about others doing. I dont see where the economy is falling. Ecto has been at 5.5 ever since...well not ever, yea it used to be worth more...but so did silver dye. Big Woopie! And yes its cheaper to just buy parchment from the trader then to go get it crafted, but in all honesty...does it really matter? You have your millions of Platinum, and so do I, but I made mine on my monk. And 1 more thing... why does it seem like the same people that complained about Ursans are the same ones complaining about SF? The same ones that "refused" to learn how to use the skill properly. And more then likely the same ones that have not been on the game for the past 9 months as well. Get over it folks, clear a charicter slot, make an assassin and get to speed clearing along with the rest of us.
Yes, this was a bit off topic. sorry.
And whats the deal with people always wanting to BREAK shadow form? Each and every person that complains that shadow form needs to be broken can just as easily make an assassin and do those very same speed runs they gripe about others doing. I dont see where the economy is falling. Ecto has been at 5.5 ever since...well not ever, yea it used to be worth more...but so did silver dye. Big Woopie! And yes its cheaper to just buy parchment from the trader then to go get it crafted, but in all honesty...does it really matter? You have your millions of Platinum, and so do I, but I made mine on my monk. And 1 more thing... why does it seem like the same people that complained about Ursans are the same ones complaining about SF? The same ones that "refused" to learn how to use the skill properly. And more then likely the same ones that have not been on the game for the past 9 months as well. Get over it folks, clear a charicter slot, make an assassin and get to speed clearing along with the rest of us.
Yes, this was a bit off topic. sorry.
Slash From The Shadows
LOL , laughed about the idea, altaugh i do think uw/fow are elite areas ( and YES i'm against chest farming) i think your idea is way too much, simpily, anet can add new monsters which CAN counter the uw sc build ( there isn't to much of sc for fow, as almost none does it :P).
oh, and just if someone will say " wtf go home noob" , i do have exp in those sc ( i did it like hundred times and i know all areas) , i'm just a person who got tired of this :P.
EDIT: why in RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO's sake you want sc to be nerfed? you are jeleous : make a sin and do it too, you don't have factions: too bad, if it's not those 2 things well, get a life and do something else ^^
oh, and just if someone will say " wtf go home noob" , i do have exp in those sc ( i did it like hundred times and i know all areas) , i'm just a person who got tired of this :P.
EDIT: why in RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO's sake you want sc to be nerfed? you are jeleous : make a sin and do it too, you don't have factions: too bad, if it's not those 2 things well, get a life and do something else ^^
EinherjarMx
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Do you wake up in the morning and go: "Man, I wish someone would hit me in the face with a bat. That'd be funny!"?
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Why do you guys worry so much about the economy? is not like this game is going to last that long once guild wars 2 comes out (if it comes out).
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Tyla
Directed towards the people who say "lol u jelus of sc maek a sin":
I have an Assassin who can work in these areas - but I still support the nerf. Why? Because Godmode shouldn't be that easily accessable, and Godmode should not be open at all in an online game.
"Learning how to use the skill properly" is like asking people to write down the first three letters of the alphabet in order, with the writing already infront of you.
The economy means f*ck all.
In conclusion, you missing the point or are some carebear who can't help but lose his ease machine.
I have an Assassin who can work in these areas - but I still support the nerf. Why? Because Godmode shouldn't be that easily accessable, and Godmode should not be open at all in an online game.
"Learning how to use the skill properly" is like asking people to write down the first three letters of the alphabet in order, with the writing already infront of you.
The economy means f*ck all.
In conclusion, you missing the point or are some carebear who can't help but lose his ease machine.
Lishy
IT IS TOO EASY TO GET MATERIALS OH MY FACKEN GOD LIEK I AM SEEING PEOPLE WHO'VE PLAYED LESS THAN ME HAVE OBISDIAN ARMOR!
I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR SIX YEARS WHY THE FACK HASN'T ANET GIVEN MY ANYTHING, WHY THE FACK AAAAAAAAAAA REMOVE MATERIAL TRADER NOW! FACKEN REMOVE IT! WAHAAHA REMOVE IT ITS TOO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING EASY FFFAAAAAAAAACK
/me Watches to see if ANET listens to people in Ascalon city who fail at the game
This thread is comparable to that ^
Also, /signed for teh lulz
I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR SIX YEARS WHY THE FACK HASN'T ANET GIVEN MY ANYTHING, WHY THE FACK AAAAAAAAAAA REMOVE MATERIAL TRADER NOW! FACKEN REMOVE IT! WAHAAHA REMOVE IT ITS TOO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING EASY FFFAAAAAAAAACK
/me Watches to see if ANET listens to people in Ascalon city who fail at the game
This thread is comparable to that ^
Also, /signed for teh lulz
Latham
O'my gosh, What am i supposed to do while FoW is unaccessible. I suggest you place the Forgemaster in ToA for them few days, just to help me out, not all my characters can cast 1,2,3 and solo it !!!?!
And those people whining on about how we are all jealous of your uber 1337 skillz of casting sf, Did you even read the OP ? Get on topic plox.
But /signed, for the lol, and the QQ's you would get from people.!
And those people whining on about how we are all jealous of your uber 1337 skillz of casting sf, Did you even read the OP ? Get on topic plox.
But /signed, for the lol, and the QQ's you would get from people.!
weretoad
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I lol'd IRL
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MagmaRed
Since the only people who do UW or FoW are farmers, this makes complete sense. /sarcasm
Lets nerf the drops so that the people who actually play these areas are screwed for being 'normal' instead of farming. Think of an idea that actually works, and I'll consider it.
Lets nerf the drops so that the people who actually play these areas are screwed for being 'normal' instead of farming. Think of an idea that actually works, and I'll consider it.
Keira Nightgale
I did an UW yesterday with 6 heroes and a friend, we died at 4h after 1 hour 
Should have sticked to FOW, going to study again now.
yeh tyla and upier are carebears, and ugly as my shiat engrish.
Should have sticked to FOW, going to study again now.
yeh tyla and upier are carebears, and ugly as my shiat engrish.
Nessar
/signed
I wanna see moar QQ then usual
I wanna see moar QQ then usual
Issac
/signed
Just because people will lose their minds over it.
Just because people will lose their minds over it.
asleep
I am not big on nerfing if the skill was good enough that no nerf was needed, but a good idea is to add a new item to each of the games except gwen every 3 months and only in the end game zones. Make the drop rate somewhere around 1 in 1 million and that should move some of us to action. A new really good item in the Ring of Fire, new item in Unwaking Waters explorable zone, and new item in the Domain of Anguish.
Another idea is limited time bosses they have a 1/100 chance of spawning and drop new unique items. They last only a month and disappear at the end of a month. An each person is only allowed to kill the boss 5 times a day to account for farming and such.
Improve FOW chest with a new item drop around 1 in 10,000 so people don't give up. Possibly add another boss with a green drop.
Since you can farm HM and get uw and fow scroll drops.
Another idea that may be implemented in GW2 is the idea of zones for Melandru. Lyssa, and Dwayna. Why do them all just be lazy and put all three of them in 1 zone with new rare items and a possible new end chest with new gold items and a rare consumable 1 in 100 adding 100% chance of an enemy dropping gold and triple gold item drops for 10 minutes great for bosses and some zones for rare items .
A new zone accessible to all and you fight swarms and swarms of enemies of all classesbase and a boss every minute. At the end of 30minutes a new chest pops out. With 2 teams of 8 fighting the swarms of enemies. Hundreds incoming with mes- energy surge, crippling anguish + signet of disenchantment & interupts and nec-grenths balance,lingering curse have enchant removal, wars- hundred blades, devastating hammer, ranger -barrage, escape, +antidote signet monk- word of healing, spell breaker and ele-obsidian flesh, mind freeze. Environmental effect- move 20% slower and take 20 dps while standing still. This allows people to farm golds while needed a huge group if lucky great new items.
all core skills
Most likely nothing much will happen so ignore the top.
Another idea is limited time bosses they have a 1/100 chance of spawning and drop new unique items. They last only a month and disappear at the end of a month. An each person is only allowed to kill the boss 5 times a day to account for farming and such.
Improve FOW chest with a new item drop around 1 in 10,000 so people don't give up. Possibly add another boss with a green drop.
Since you can farm HM and get uw and fow scroll drops.
Another idea that may be implemented in GW2 is the idea of zones for Melandru. Lyssa, and Dwayna. Why do them all just be lazy and put all three of them in 1 zone with new rare items and a possible new end chest with new gold items and a rare consumable 1 in 100 adding 100% chance of an enemy dropping gold and triple gold item drops for 10 minutes great for bosses and some zones for rare items .
A new zone accessible to all and you fight swarms and swarms of enemies of all classesbase and a boss every minute. At the end of 30minutes a new chest pops out. With 2 teams of 8 fighting the swarms of enemies. Hundreds incoming with mes- energy surge, crippling anguish + signet of disenchantment & interupts and nec-grenths balance,lingering curse have enchant removal, wars- hundred blades, devastating hammer, ranger -barrage, escape, +antidote signet monk- word of healing, spell breaker and ele-obsidian flesh, mind freeze. Environmental effect- move 20% slower and take 20 dps while standing still. This allows people to farm golds while needed a huge group if lucky great new items.
all core skills
Most likely nothing much will happen so ignore the top.
kostolomac
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I am not big on nerfing if the skill was good enough that no nerf was needed, but a good idea is to add a new item to each of the games except gwen every 3 months and only in the end game zones. Make the drop rate somewhere around 1 in 1 million and that should move some of us to action. A new really good item in the Ring of Fire, new item in Unwaking Waters explorable zone, and new item in the Domain of Anguish.
Another idea is limited time bosses they have a 1/100 chance of spawning and drop new unique items. They last only a month and disappear at the end of a month. An each person is only allowed to kill the boss 5 times a day to account for farming and such. Improve FOW chest with a new item drop around 1 in 10,000 so people don't give up. Possibly add another boss with a green drop. Since you can farm HM and get uw and fow scroll drops. |
/signed , but only for a day
Mystica
/signed...seriously...not for the lulz
Goes well with my idea to have a "7 days of creeping jolly - 5000ms+ Ping" event. SlowMotion and Bullet-Time worked for Matrix and May Payne. They will work for GW aswell.
Goes well with my idea to have a "7 days of creeping jolly - 5000ms+ Ping" event. SlowMotion and Bullet-Time worked for Matrix and May Payne. They will work for GW aswell.
faraaz
People will just go back to Obby Flesh Terras + imbagon & physicals teams to clear it. Instead of 15 mins, it would take an hour'ish...
This isnt going to fix the problem.
This isnt going to fix the problem.
MStarfire
Let's see. I think it would be hilarious (and also good for the in-game community) if we broke both your hands. It would be a temporary nerf, you'd heal. Comments?