Elona reach

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

How the hell does anyone get through this VERY unfair part of the game,I have done it with 2 other people and some henchmen 5 different times and all times ended with the death of the party,we are all at our wits end!!!!!!!!!
Can someone help please
S_S

October Jade

October Jade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

drifting between Indiana and NorCal

It would help if we knew which part of the mission is giving you problems. My guess is that it has something to do with the forgotten monks who spam Word of Healing. You really need a way to pin them down and prevent them from casting their spells; otherwise you might sit there all day in a stalemate. Ranger interrupts or mesmer skills like Diversion should go a long way in getting you through.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Sometimes you have to lure towards the end, using ppl with heros is better sometimes as well. If all else fails I'll help.

IGN's

Issac Vale
I Scorpion I

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

we are at the part where we have to do the Accension and we need to get 3 of the crystals for the ghost so he can fuse them together.We have the first one,but can't seem to get the second one where we cross the bridge.As far as the third one,we are not sure about that one yet.
S_S

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Don't cross the bridge, just go to the path on the side of it and just lure the monsters, that's the important thing to do in this mission.

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

we will have to try that,I'll let you know how we make out.
Thanks
S_S

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

This game is TOTALLY RETARDED and it is this mission that has decided the fate of the future of the Guild Wars games for me,I wont be buying any more,it's just a waste of time and money.The level cap,the death penalty,the runes for the armor,they all play a part in my not wanting to buy into the GW games,sorry guys,I just don't like the setup of this game.
see you all
S_S

October Jade

October Jade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

drifting between Indiana and NorCal

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This game is TOTALLY RETARDED
Okay, you're entitled to an opinion.

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waste of time
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level cap
This is an enormous contradiction. I suppose you prefer games where the level cap is, say, eighty?

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see you all
Trust me, no one cares.

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

What class are you playing? What heros/ henchmen are you using? Did you check mission info here on Guru or in wiki? Get thru it and you will be a better player.

Which group are you going after first? Did you clear out any roaming npcs that may be spoilers? The Mission isn't the easiest one but its been done many many many time so its doable. Check to see which npcs are giving you the problem...getting trapped on the bridge is the most common reason for failure. Try flagging warrior types forward and take out the healers if possible.

You might try to get in a group...lfg for mission.

Good luck

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

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Originally Posted by October Jade View Post
Okay, you're entitled to an opinion.




This is an enormous contradiction. I suppose you prefer games where the level cap is, say, eighty?



Trust me, no one cares.
lol, nice. Quoted for truth.

Someone who quits a game because he/she/it can't get past one part of it? Man, good luck when you move out of mommy and daddy's house and into the real world.....

"Wah! This job is too hard! I quit! I just can't get the hang of flipping burgers! Wah!"

I'm calling the waaaaaambulance.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

Thanx, you payed anet some money to improve their service and then left leaving ur server space clean. People like you explain how anet can keep the servers running.

The forth fly

The forth fly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

england

Mo/

if you cant do that mission in NM u should quit the game, loser

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Thanks for the laugh
No kidding, that bridge isn't the best place for a fight.
If you quit something instead of asking yourself why you keep failing I think you made the right choice.

King of Clubs

King of Clubs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Williamsport, Maryland

The Might of Kings

R/W

If you are pugging this mission good luck. I have never had too much trouble with it myself. Just make sure to keep aggro to a minimum, and bring lots of interp's. Shutting down the casters makes a huge difference. Last time I did it I think I was an R/W with a R ranger and then a mixed bunch of front line and back line support. It didn't pose to many problems. We just took it slow and easy.

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

Well,first off I am not going to turn this into a war.To answer October Jade's question,I do like playing games that have a higher level then 20.Jade I'm 42 years old and only lived with my "mommy" until age 18 any way.I don't understand the builds in this game and really never had to do them in games I have played before.I also come from a different part of RPG games,the single player party based games that didn't have that much,if anything to do with stacking runes and things like that.Last thanks to Antares Ascending for hopefully seeing my rants as me being Pissed about a part of the game I have tried over and over to complete but am not able to do,because of,yes you guessed it operator error.
Thanks
S_S

Amantis

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Mursaat Guardians

Me/

I'll take your crap!

King of Clubs

King of Clubs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Williamsport, Maryland

The Might of Kings

R/W

If you want give me a shout after 8pm E.S.T. I'm usually on. I'll help.

ign: Memory Lost

I'm an old gamer myself (34) who feels your pain about trying to understand half this game.

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

Thanks King,not sure if I'll get on tonight or not,if I do I'll give you a shout.
S_S

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Actually, there could be a lot of stuff that you need help with. If you are having problems understanding Runes and Skills and stuff, it could be that you need help from the ground up. So, if you want help, start by telling us what class you are playing, what armor you are using, and what Runes and Insignias you have.
I'd be happy to answer your questions. (I'd even be happy to help you get through the mission, if you can find me actually in game.)

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

I remember this mission.

Pay someone 10K and BAM!!! One completed mission. Nuff said

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

I posted my stats here before and got some help from Healing Fool that worked out real good,until this mission.I will post my stats a bit later since they changed.I think that maybe the Char I and my 2 friends have may need to be done from the ground up like Quaker said.We also would like to try and not pay someone to run for us,just to get it done.We wanted to try and get it done as a group and with the advice of anyone who would help.This is just madness I hate not knowing what to do,and trying to figure all this out while getting my butt handed to me just adds to the madness even more.
I'll post my stats after diner.
Thanks again
S_S

notskorn

notskorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Clan Roxor

W/E

I can't believe noone has posted this yet. Basically if you just do what the wiki says you should be able to beat the mission without any problems.

S_S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

upstate new york

S_S

W/N

These are the Stats on my Char of right now,hope this helps.
And thanks for everything
S_S

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

[Healing Signet][Crushing Blow][mighty blow][irresistible blow][desperation blow][power attack][heavy blow][resurrection signet]

I believe that is what you have for your skills, but it was hard to see the bottom of the picture.

You don't have all 200 attribute points yet, but that is not your fault, you aren't able to get them all yet. Your runes and armor look to be good enough. Could use some improvement, but it would be a small improvement for what you are looking to do, and not worth worrying over at this point in time.

Your skill bar is a problem though. Rez Sig is very good for PvE and PvP both, allowing you to rez a fallen team member. 6 attack skills, however, is not needed. You should easily have enough to deal damage with 3 or 4 attack skills, leaving 3-4 slots open for utility. The only utility skill you have is your self heal, Healing Signet. At only 5 tactics, you get a heal og 92 health, which isn't bad, except that it takes 2 seconds to use, and you lose 40 armor while using it. This means that while trying to get healed for 92 health, you will take more damage, making the actual healed amount less than what it should be. This is where another utility skill would come in handy. Stances allow you to defend yourself, and yet you have none. Frenzy and Flurry would allow you to attack faster, but you use neither. Bonetti's Defense you have available, and it would protect you long enough to use Healing Signet, as well as help regain energy. Watch Yourself would boost the defense of the entire team (as long as they are within earshot). Although it won't remove the -40 armor lost from Healing Signet, it will decrease the amount lost by adding more to you. This would lower the damage you are receiving, as well as help the team out.

Using a Hammer, you lost the option for a shield, which lowers you armor. Hammer can be used well, but don't forget you will take more damage than a Sword or Axe user who also has a shield.

Read the wiki to learn about the mission. Both of the wikis have good information on what needs to be done, and advice on how to do it. They also provide information on what monsters you face, what skills they use, and what skills can work well against them. That alone should be enough to learn how to complete the mission.

For help with your character, post in the Warrior forum in the Campfire. They can make good suggestions on equipment, skills, and advice on how to use them. Warrior should be about dealing damage, but you don't do anything else. Learn how to make a build that will help you more, and the game itself will become easier and more fun at the same time.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

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Originally Posted by S_S View Post
We wanted to try and get it done as a group and with the advice of anyone who would help.This is just madness I hate not knowing what to do,and trying to figure all this out while getting my butt handed to me just adds to the madness even more.
S_S
S_S,

Now we are getting somewhere
Others posted wiki as advice and that help answering with what to do.
To sum it, you need to run 3 crystals to the ghostly hero, two while a timer is running.
The bonus is bringing those crystals to two additional points.

Now if you fail once, it could be somewhat bad luck.
If you fail twice, specially if it's on the same spot, you need to rethink your strategy.
For example, if you cross the bridge towards the left crystal after the cutscene you walk through a mine, cross the bridge and walk into another one. Meaning your party will be crippled most of the time.
Furthermore, the bridge functions as a choke-point. There is little room to move sidewards. You can use this for your advantage, but with the cripple this is most probably a disadvantage.
Next there is a boss on the other end of the bridge. He's not a problem, but there is another patrol near him. That patrol has two elementalists and a monk in it.

If you fight on the bridge your team will get hit hard by those if you aggro them. Why?
Because the boss group move up on the bridge and block you from reaching the monk. At the same time the elementalists will use spells that hit your entire team at once and you can't step aside since you are on the bridge.
That's one of the dangers here, stand too close together and you'll get hit hard.

The rangers can also be a problem. I think they can interrupt casters and I know for sure they blind melee attackers.
And when you as warrior are blinded you can't do much.

In this mission and the other desert missions things ain't so much on specific skills but on what your task is. In this it's running crystals around, in Dunes it's protecting the ghostly hero (bonus ganking 3 bosses outside main area) and in Thirsty River it's speed killing, bonus making sure an npc doesn't die and you kill before he walks off.
In all cases make sure you have enough punching power to kill small groups of enemies with a monk in them. The only dual-monk group is found in Thirsty River and that second monk is a boss. You might want to bring some serious caster hate for that one (knockdown, daze, anti-caster hexes).

Maybe not the kind of help you are looking for, but perhaps it gives you some better understanding on the game mechanics and how to handle a certain situation.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

Bring a longbow to help with pulling...

Hollygen

Hollygen

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2007

UK

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

R/

As the_jos says the bridge is a choke point and can give you grief. You don't need to cross it, however.
It's possible, heading right from the nearside of the bridge and following the path up the hill and round to get you to the same spot, but with more room for pulling and evasion, and with no cripple from the mine

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

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Originally Posted by Hollygen View Post
As the_jos says the bridge is a choke point and can give you grief. You don't need to cross it, however.
It's possible, heading right from the nearside of the bridge and following the path up the hill and round to get you to the same spot, but with more room for pulling and evasion, and with no cripple from the mine
If you decide to take this route remember to pull the two ele + one monk team towards you, far past their regular patrol path.
There is a second group that patrols there and their monk will heal the monk in the first group.
Killing one monk healing itself is doable, killing one that's healed by itself and another (hard to reach for melee/ranger) can be very annoying.
And when you aggro the second group your group will be pounded by four elementalists instead of two.

On the other side make sure to thoroughly clear the path you will take back.
Picking up the crystal will activate several groups and there is the same advice as on the bridge side: don't fight several groups at once.