heroes and signet of capture. please help

spartan4595

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

E/Me

30 Dec 2008 at 17:26 - 1

well i really want a nice minion master hero and i was saying to myself well i need shambling horror. however i have every campaign except nightfall.
since i just got eotn and noticed that there are enemies with skills from nightfall i searched for a necro boss that has animate shambling horror and i found one!! now the only problem was that im not a necro and since im sbout to get livia i was wondering if she can use signet of capture and if i can actually cap shambling horror anyway because i dont have nightfall.

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

30 Dec 2008 at 18:18 - 2

If you don't have Nightfall, you can't cap Nightfall skills in EotN.

Heroes can't carry a cap sig. You have to change your secondary profession to the one required for the skill and carry the cap sig yourself.

GWEXTREEMFAN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

in my house

N/A

W/E

30 Dec 2008 at 20:35 - 3

or you simply just can unlock it with balthazar points ^^

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

30 Dec 2008 at 20:58 - 4

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Originally Posted by GWEXTREEMFAN

or you simply just can unlock it with balthazar points ^^ You can't unlock a skill from a chapter that you don't have.

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

31 Dec 2008 at 07:24 - 5

Luckily you dont need Nightfall to cap [jagged bones] as long as yo uhave eye of north.

you can cap [[jagged bones] from any of the following locations.
Avarr the Fallen (Jaga Moraine) {he will be in the northwesternmost part of the map off a little pathway} He also has a nice 20/20 death magic wand that he may drop.

The Master (Cathedral of Flames level 2)

Taskmaster Nard (Battledepths, during Attack on Jalis's Camp)

Taskmaster Bellok (Vloxen Excavations level 2)

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

31 Dec 2008 at 08:58 - 6

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Originally Posted by daze View Post

Luckily you dont need Nightfall to cap [jagged bones] as long as yo uhave eye of north.

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Originally Posted by BrettM

If you don't have Nightfall, you can't cap Nightfall skills in EotN. 12charsrahc21

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

31 Dec 2008 at 09:04 - 7

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Originally Posted by Picuso View Post

12charsrahc21
says who? I dont see that documented anywhere.

nevermind
It is impossible to capture elites from another campaign (i.e. through EotN) without having access to that campaign.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Signet_of_Capture

damn thats bullcrap.

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

31 Dec 2008 at 18:04 - 8

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Originally Posted by daze View Post

says who? I dont see that documented anywhere.

nevermind
It is impossible to capture elites from another campaign (i.e. through EotN) without having access to that campaign.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Signet_of_Capture

damn thats bullcrap. yeah!
having to pay for content from another campaign is completely ridiculous!

/sarcasm

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

01 Jan 2009 at 03:04 - 9

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

yeah!
having to pay for content from another campaign is completely ridiculous!

/sarcasm Paying for Eye of North should be enough to cap skills that can be capped in Eye of North.
It doesn't affect me at all. I already have 3 accounts with all campaigns. But you just couldn't resist the smart ass comment huh?

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

01 Jan 2009 at 06:50 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by daze

Paying for Eye of North should be enough to cap skills that can be capped in Eye of North.
It doesn't affect me at all. I already have 3 accounts with all campaigns. But you just couldn't resist the smart ass comment huh? eye of the north is an expansion, not a campaign. they said before it was even released that there would be no new skills (real skills, not PvE).

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

01 Jan 2009 at 07:14 - 11

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Originally Posted by -Lotus- View Post

eye of the north is an expansion, not a campaign. they said before it was even released that there would be no new ELITE skills (real skills, not PvE).
And there were no new non-PvE ELITE skills just like they said. It still would have been nice if the elites were capable.

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

01 Jan 2009 at 19:41 - 12

^^ tis what i meant.

anyways, if you payed for the game the elites are from, you can cap them. if you dont own the game, you dont get the skill.

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

03 Jan 2009 at 01:19 - 13

You CAN capture skills from campaigns that you don't own if you can find a boss with them.

YOU CAN'T use these skills on your bar.

However, your heroes CAN use these skills if you cap them.

So if you cap Jagged Bones/Shambles, your Necromancer hero will be able to use them.

Prior to getting Factions, I capped one of the Factions Elites from a boss in that History of Violence quest. My heroes could use it, but I couldn't.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

03 Jan 2009 at 04:00 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

You CAN capture skills from campaigns that you don't own if you can find a boss with them. I thought it was changed so that you could no longer do that. Can't test it anyway, since I'm not missing any campaigns.

Either way, Op needs to change his secondary to necro to cap, as you can't put a cap sig on heroes.

*edit Thanks for testing it Yggdrasil

Yggdrasil

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

03 Jan 2009 at 05:53 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

You CAN capture skills from campaigns that you don't own if you can find a boss with them. Not true, just tried w/ the Me/ boss in the rabbits den, has Lyssa's Aura (Factions) and it wouldn't let me cap it. Wish it would, I'd deck my heroes out with some new skills...