600 famine / smite farm foundry + city areas in 1 hr 03

runite ringleader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Spiral

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Finally, 350k lb later and 22 mil exp later i finally managed to get both areas not just under 1 hr 05 but at 1 hr 03!!! Thanks to my team. (Proof below)



That's4 Margonite Gems = 12k 2 Titans = 10k Altogether = 22k
That is garanteed, you also get other stuff and gems, meaning that you could get 25k-40k potentially

For those who are wondering what the farm im going on about its the 3 men farm in DoA, famine, 600 and smite that people occasionally do.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Te...ine/Smite_Farm <-- For more info

Anyways to my question ...Is this farm better then the conventional 600 / Smite farm in UW / FoW? Is it better then the UW SC farm? Why isn't this being overfarmed? How can I do Stygian Veil?
The reason why im asking is that I wonder if this farm I should stick to or do as well some pug SCs etc. or the conventional 600 / smite UW / FoW. Others are there out of interest.

Starmidder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

This is the best farming run possible assuming you do one thing. Take other people with you and charge 20k per head for the run (people pay 10k for City runs that I do personally, and 10k for foundry). That way you're guaranteed 122k per hour, which is far more than you can even dream about doing any other run (HM dungeons included). With UWSC, you're not guaranteed anything, you might even lose gold depending on consets and entry fee.

I am curious as to how you cleared foundry so fast, I'm guessing your City time was around 20 minutes (thats what my typical time is), but I have never gotten Foundry in under an hour. The Fury alone generally takes a good 10 minutes, so can you share how you cut down on the time for Foundry?

Oh yeah, and not that I'm doubting you, but others may, you should take a screenshot of the time after opening the chest and showing the 4 Marg on the ground. The SS you have could have been taken after just a City run, without Foundry.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

also curious as to how you kill the fury. i heard something about toggling your LB rank on and off but didn't really catch it. if someone could explain i would appreciate it.

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

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Nicely done, also not sure how sub-hour time was done... please share? Do any of you guys run foundry? Am willing to pay for it.

There are not a lot of runners in DoA the last few days...

Thanks

Pimpmyplatypus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/Rt

Could you please tell us the ways your team altered the wiki build, because to me it seems like it'd be pretty hard to do doa with those 3 builds

thanks

Mr.Kotte

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by runite ringleader View Post
..Is this farm better then the conventional 600 / Smite farm in UW / FoW?
  • Is it better then the UW SC farm? Why isn't this being overfarmed? How can I do Stygian Veil? 1. No, its about average.
    2. No it isnt.
    3. It used to be, now people got bored of it. (EoTN and CoF)
    4. Play with Symbiosis. (not sure how much of it you could do. I doubt you can do all of it using a build similar to this one)
  • Starmidder

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: May 2005

    People posting obviously have no idea how to do this run, so let me make it idiot-proof simple. When tanking the Fury, you have to run behind a wall so he cant hit you (and strip your enchantments with his monster skill). Ki's have to be maneuvered so they aren't behind a wall and are able to hit you. Getting both of them to be able to hit you takes some work, and thus extra time. Even with PI, and getting them setup perfectly, they will take a while to kill. Stop trying to be smart asses and know what you're talking about before you speak.

    Back on topic, gratz on your time OP, I hope you start running people through this so they will stop PM'n me for City.

    Avatar Exico

    Avatar Exico

    Wilds Pathfinder

    Join Date: Jun 2006

    Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

    We Trip Hard On [AcID]

    N/

    Nice Idea. The old 600/smite/Famine works everytime for DoA. Remember back day when you could make 40-70k+ in Foundry from Titans.

    jdm_ap1

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Mar 2008

    what is your asura rank?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Starmidder View Post
    People posting obviously have no idea how to do this run, so let me make it idiot-proof simple. When tanking the Fury, you have to run behind a wall so he cant hit you (and strip your enchantments with his monster skill). Ki's have to be maneuvered so they aren't behind a wall and are able to hit you. Getting both of them to be able to hit you takes some work, and thus extra time. Even with PI, and getting them setup perfectly, they will take a while to kill. Stop trying to be smart asses and know what you're talking about before you speak.

    Back on topic, gratz on your time OP, I hope you start running people through this so they will stop PM'n me for City. can you explain about the fury and behind the wall?

    DarK_AngeLX

    DarK_AngeLX

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Oct 2005

    Québec, Canada.

    Industrial Flood [iF]

    Mo/

    Well I'm really suprised by the time you did there.. The thing is that I don't understand how you did that fast... As a tanker, I normally take 1h00 to clear foundry and another 20-30min to clear torc'qua. So my question is... How do you clear the foundry that fast? And as another said, it take a good 10-15 minutes to kill the fury alone...

    Thanks in advance..

    Gmoney

    Pre-Searing Cadet

    Join Date: May 2005

    Hey guys, when doing foundry with the 3 man, how do u clear the 2nd room? I can clear the first margonites and titans, but the 2nd room everything spawns on top of everyone.

    Thanks for any help in advance.

    code1101

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Jan 2007

    your friends go into the room and stay at the other door and cast sq+qz .. you charge in and depending on your luck you might get a good spwan or a bad one.

    btw I noticed there isn't a guide about the 3 man team for foundry ... there is the build on wiki but alot of people don't know what to do inside there like after clearing the area what to do with the snakes and how to stash them after you save them.

    code1101

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Jan 2007

    sorry again guys for reviving an old thread but its better than creating a new 1.

    Anyway I really need any tip on killing the Fury faster. I can kill him but it takes a long time to do so.

    What I do is aggro them and hide behind the pillar so fury doesn't hit me. I try hard so that all foes beside fury can hit but it takes a couple of tries. sometimes I give up trying to get them all to hit me so I kill a few then die then kill the rest and then fury. Also why dont the mesemers hit me until all are dead ?! I mean there are 3 right, so the first start hitting only after the last ele dies then the second 1 start hitting after the 1st mesemer dies or one of the KIs die. Its like they wont attack if 3 or more foes are attacking you so why is that?!

    Thanks in advance.

    runite ringleader

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Jul 2007

    Mystic Spiral

    W/

    Quote:
    sorry again guys for reviving an old thread but its better than creating a new 1.

    Anyway I really need any tip on killing the Fury faster. I can kill him but it takes a long time to do so.

    What I do is aggro them and hide behind the pillar so fury doesn't hit me. I try hard so that all foes beside fury can hit but it takes a couple of tries. sometimes I give up trying to get them all to hit me so I kill a few then die then kill the rest and then fury. Also why dont the mesemers hit me until all are dead ?! I mean there are 3 right, so the first start hitting only after the last ele dies then the second 1 start hitting after the 1st mesemer dies or one of the KIs die. Its like they wont attack if 3 or more foes are attacking you so why is that?!

    Thanks in advance.
    Tips:
    - Drag Fury very near pillar at other side, so he pretty much can't attack anything (rammed into the pillar) and you will find his minions scattered around. If too far, its a lot harder imo.
    - Keep Famine in range of the minions and fury, it makes it faster.
    - Spam your single - targeting hex (Pain inverter / Spirit Shackles) a lot on a mesmer or a monk. This is to get them to cast Hex Eater Vortex thus using up more mana.
    - Idea is to get EVERYONE to attack you, so you can cast your hex more (more energy), so you can cause more energy denial to the mesmers and so make them attack you faster.
    - Once they hit 0 energy they will start attacking you.
    - Sometimes they hit 0 energy and don't start attacking you until the kis are down (bug?)
    - This takes me around 10-15 mins

    Quote:
    Well I'm really suprised by the time you did there.. The thing is that I don't understand how you did that fast... As a tanker, I normally take 1h00 to clear foundry and another 20-30min to clear torc'qua. So my question is... How do you clear the foundry that fast? And as another said, it take a good 10-15 minutes to kill the fury alone...

    Thanks in advance.. Tips:
    - I usually take 19 minutes to clear the mobs up to the Snakes, often 18 minutes with a competent group. To do this trap them ASAP around pillars and chokeholds to stop them scattering.
    - I don't rescue the 3rd snake but let it die. There is no need to. I flag him but let the mob chase the snake down and kill it. This is the snake with the huge horde of deminta Titans following it. I don't even kill these in order to save time. NOTE: Only 600 should accept quest until after Argh until when everyone else should as it will say FAIL on the 600 quest log and all others who took quest, but when after Argh they accept it, it won't say FAIL
    - To cut down time on Snakes I don't trap them at all. I use the smiter / famine range to strafe left and right to attract snakes while I go in and aggro Argh. However, since I don't usually die, I don't usually need to trap snakes. If you do die, you will need to trap (so smiter can ress) and to make it easier to do argh. Once Argh and his minions have been killed the snakes stop and won't follow you anymore anyway. This cuts down on around 4 minutes.
    - This next stage before Fury often takes around 5-6 minutes.
    - Fury then takes 10-15 minutes.
    - Foundry then takes 35-40 minutes.
    - City then takes around 19 minutes on a good run, as pain inverter makes things a whole lot faster. But on average around 22 minutes.
    - Averages at around an hour

    runite ringleader

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Jul 2007

    Mystic Spiral

    W/

    Well notice to all, I've started running this run like in Feb after the helpful mention on guru and started getting 130k an hour. Well, pretty nice cash for a was-average farm imo. This is good because:

    - Anet can't nerf it - it is far simply too hard for many and so goes unnoticed.
    - Not many will run it due to difficulty
    = Bonus.

    psykick5

    psykick5

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Oct 2006

    Salt Lake City, Utah

    W/Mo

    I really like how you did this but I am just wondering if this is capable with heroes as the QZ and smite?

    Thanks in advance.

    runite ringleader

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Jul 2007

    Mystic Spiral

    W/

    No and Yes

    -No: if you plan on completing full foundry including end chest. Otherwise can only do mobs. Works fine with city.
    -Yes: If you have 1 other human player in order to run snakes you can run full foundry which includes running others. Works fine with city.

    Ancient Aris

    Pre-Searing Cadet

    Join Date: Aug 2006

    Aris

    Mo/

    I hear that many people do not believe that foundry can be done that fast, so i give you an example... 14-18 min foundry clear, 10-15 min for snakes+beast+fury and 14-18 min city.
    Average run 25-35 minutes and my best time for both areas is 44 min.


    personal note: 25-35 min foundry runs are VERY fun as 600, i would like to see others do it, so i could relax and smite or famine.
    Your could do 20 min runs or even less with perma, he helps with fury and running snakes faster but i do not like it, it takes away my fun from fury group.

    Adam Silverwing

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Mar 2009

    Mo/

    What exactly does the the perma do? And what build should the perma have?

    syosha

    Pre-Searing Cadet

    Join Date: Jan 2010

    Las Vegas, New Mexico (don't believe me? Look it up :) )

    Anarchy Of Dark Chaos [Dark]

    Mo/Me

    Hi,

    I found this thread after searching it in google, as I do not use this forum excessively. I even posted on youtube asking to learn this and offering money for someone to teach me.

    I smite for this and sometimes 600 (but only with friends). I have not done 600/smite/qz foundry in FOREVER, and I recently made a Ranger so I could famine because it looks fun, well...funner then smite anyways, at least I get to do something.

    I repeatedly got this from people, "sorry, I do not teach people, pugs = fail". Trust me, I've looked ALL OVER and I'm continuing to try and find me someone nice enough to teach me.

    I will pay whatever you want, I'll do as I am told no questions asked, I just want to really learn this please. If you could help it, it would be more then appreciated. Please, shoot me an e-mail at: [email protected], or pm me in game. My IGN is: Healing Monk Of Yo, thank you in advance!!!!

    Marty Silverblade

    Marty Silverblade

    Administrator

    Join Date: Jun 2006

    You might want to hold back until the next skill update. Anet have stated it will target some prominent farming skills. You won't want to pay a large amount of cash only to have it become redundant with the update. Note that we don't actually know when it's going to be (people always say it's going to occur 'this week', but they've been saying that since November).

    runite ringleader

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Jul 2007

    Mystic Spiral

    W/

    Hey, im back from a long break from gw, I was just wondering whether its still possible to do foundry / city in this way ^^, i noticed a lot of skills have been balanced when I was away.

    Loot Junkie

    Loot Junkie

    Lion's Arch Merchant

    Join Date: Jan 2007

    in a utopian dream

    clan dethryche[dth]

    N/

    I'm back from a 15 month break myself, but I do remember them nerfing the 600/smite farm build to death by ruining holy wrath.