There seems to be a rash of these things I call 'follow bots' primarily in fort aspenwood and jade quarry, although I have seen them in ab as well. Last night was like the last straw, as there was a monk follow bot from eF which I thought was a well known pvp guild. These things will target whoever is first on the allies list and simply follow them around and do nothing else - they die at the same time, res, and continue to follow. They don't cast any spells or do anything, just follow the exact same path you take. I had fun getting the one following me killed, as it just stands there until it dies. Then it waited around at the res until I died, then continued to follow me. One other guy on my side saw the bot as soon as we entered the competition and reported him, saying that was the 3rd fight in a row he'd been stuck with that bot. I also reported him (I was the one it was following) and a couple other people did too.
Now, this thing is not a stationary bot, it IS moving, but it's a leeching bot that does nothing and gets loads of faction. Has anyone else noticed a rise in the amount of these things, and will it actually get banned (in other words, will they see that it was moving and decide it wasn't a bot, or will they realize that it did nothing and is in fact a bot) It's really frustrating to be sided with these things.
"Follow Bots" in FA/JQ/AB
crazybanshee
Issac
I've always wondered how ppl got those bots working, but then again all we can do it report them :S.
Marverick
Hey at least they draw incoming fire away from you and NPCs =P lol
But yea, reporting doesn't really work because most people in the typical PuG team are too lazy to do it. Plus, the botter doesn't really care if he misses out on faction for one battle since he's not losing anything by botting (except electricity money but meh).
/report needs to have more severe consequences. If you get /reported by 1/3 (rounded up) or more of your team for 2 battles in a row, you lose all faction and cannot gain any for one day for each time this occurs.
But yea, reporting doesn't really work because most people in the typical PuG team are too lazy to do it. Plus, the botter doesn't really care if he misses out on faction for one battle since he's not losing anything by botting (except electricity money but meh).
/report needs to have more severe consequences. If you get /reported by 1/3 (rounded up) or more of your team for 2 battles in a row, you lose all faction and cannot gain any for one day for each time this occurs.
makosi
Surely not. A member of eF going for the quick fix way to earn e-peen status by means of the allegiance titles? They all legitimately earned - and never paid for - their gold cape trims which they brandish oh-so-proudly so I can, therefore, conlude that their practices are honest.
I'm just jealous.
On topic: I'd report them for botting if the leeching part of the report feature is disabled because of movement. They'll get caught out sooner or later although it's still unfair to be disadvantaged in the mean time.
I'm just jealous.
On topic: I'd report them for botting if the leeching part of the report feature is disabled because of movement. They'll get caught out sooner or later although it's still unfair to be disadvantaged in the mean time.
credit
lol eF lol eF lol eF lol eF
that is all
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fusa
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follow bot from eF which I thought was a well known pvp guild
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Daenara
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from eF which I thought was a well known pvp guild.
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Anyway, these bots are really annoying, but I don't see anet doing anything about them. There are still bots in FA, there are still bots in AB.
TideSwayer
Question: do any legitimate players use the party hotkeys and/or the target nearest ally hotkey in low-level forms of PvP, such as FA/JQ/AB? If the answer to this question is a resounding "no", then ANet should try disabling those hotkey functions (not the hotkey itself; the function associated with that hotkey) for these modes. I understand that function is important for higher-end PvP, but for the faction-gain stuff, really who needs it?
This would stop the Follow bots. Granted, they would just move back to leeching at the start soon after, which is why I also suggest there be a severe faction-gain penalty (both Kurz/Lux AND Balth) for dishonorable leechers/botters when they are allowed back in. Really hit these bots where it hurts. Sitting out for a day or three when they can just come back and leech faction at a full rate once again (right away) isn't much of a penalty at all, to be honest.
My current qualm with FQ and JQ atm is that the wait times for getting into a match are starting to reach AB levels. In my opinion, while it's still more than before, the 'rebalanced' faction rate for playing & end reward for FA and JQ (and I guess AB too) aren't taking into account the average wait time (which means you sit there in the outpost counting down earning NO faction whatsoever). Don't balance it for those optimal times when you can get in almost right away (and faction gain is continuous). What about the poor joes who want to play for faction when they have to wait like 10 minutes just to get into ONE freakin' game? That's 10 minutes of 0 faction without being able to do anything else but wait, wait, wait.
This would stop the Follow bots. Granted, they would just move back to leeching at the start soon after, which is why I also suggest there be a severe faction-gain penalty (both Kurz/Lux AND Balth) for dishonorable leechers/botters when they are allowed back in. Really hit these bots where it hurts. Sitting out for a day or three when they can just come back and leech faction at a full rate once again (right away) isn't much of a penalty at all, to be honest.
My current qualm with FQ and JQ atm is that the wait times for getting into a match are starting to reach AB levels. In my opinion, while it's still more than before, the 'rebalanced' faction rate for playing & end reward for FA and JQ (and I guess AB too) aren't taking into account the average wait time (which means you sit there in the outpost counting down earning NO faction whatsoever). Don't balance it for those optimal times when you can get in almost right away (and faction gain is continuous). What about the poor joes who want to play for faction when they have to wait like 10 minutes just to get into ONE freakin' game? That's 10 minutes of 0 faction without being able to do anything else but wait, wait, wait.
Bob Slydell
Well when the "/report" function came out with "leeching" people figured they could run around and make it look like they're doing something and not get reported so the tards developed a bot to do this.. LOL people will come up with anything, next ban account wipe remove all these people who just wont ablide by the EULA... its so simple to follow the EULA..but this people just will never learn. Why'd they get the game in the first place? To play.....not make bots to play for them, to play the game and enjoy it.
I'd rather have them hit hard by this:
Botter: "Oh lemme go log in so i can leech"...
Guildwars: *loading gw*
Botter: *type in password*
Guildwars: *This account is banned due to a breach of the EULA*
Botter: "WHAT ACCOUNT BANNED?!?!?! WTF ANET OMG QQ WHY BAN ME"
That's what they deserve.
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Botter: "Oh lemme go log in so i can leech"...
Guildwars: *loading gw*
Botter: *type in password*
Guildwars: *This account is banned due to a breach of the EULA*
Botter: "WHAT ACCOUNT BANNED?!?!?! WTF ANET OMG QQ WHY BAN ME"
That's what they deserve.
*Edited multiple times because i suck at typing and kept saving post.*
Empress Amarox
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Question: do any legitimate players use the party hotkeys and/or the target nearest ally hotkey in low-level forms of PvP, such as FA/JQ/AB? If the answer to this question is a resounding "no", then ANet should try disabling those hotkey functions (not the hotkey itself; the function associated with that hotkey) for these modes. I understand that function is important for higher-end PvP, but for the faction-gain stuff, really who needs it?
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Zahr Dalsk
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As to the bots? Eh. FA/JQ.
Nodair
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Well when the "/report" function came out with "leeching" people figured they could run around and make it look like they're doing something and not get reported so the tards developed a bot to do this.. LOL people will come up with anything, next ban account wipe remove all these people who just wont ablide by the EULA... its so simple to follow the EULA..but this people just will never learn. Why'd they get the game in the first place? To play.....not make bots to play for them, to play the game and enjoy it.
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Leechers are useful for 2 things:
1. a meat shield
2. getting favor
sticky keys can also be used for afking drunkard title
MercenaryKnight
Everyone in here can go sign the thread I started in sardelac. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10335105
Basically if your dishonored and try to enter pvp again first time receive a warning saying if you continue to click to join pvp again it will add even more dishonor. Then bots will keep trying to join and thus never get back into the pvp once you report them once. This won't affect people negatively at all and should be easy to implement.
Hopefully a.net will actually care and implement it.
Basically if your dishonored and try to enter pvp again first time receive a warning saying if you continue to click to join pvp again it will add even more dishonor. Then bots will keep trying to join and thus never get back into the pvp once you report them once. This won't affect people negatively at all and should be easy to implement.
Hopefully a.net will actually care and implement it.
afya
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I've always wondered how ppl got those bots working, but then again all we can do it report them :S.
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BuD
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and will it actually get banned
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Nessar
I've had the same lux bot following me over...and over...and over -.- Owell, free faction I guess. But they are pretty annoying and maybe anet is trying to find a way to fix it..meh who knows
Lord Sojar
eF is epic.... fail. The guild was sold ages ago to some failure idiots who have since destroyed anything the guild ever was or stood for. Pity really...
As for the bots, give Gaile Gray a message on her wiki page regarding the issue. She can assign task forces to investigate and monitor JQ/FA for these bots. Remember, she isn't Community Relations Manager anymore, she is the support liaison (aka, she has more power now)
As for the bots, give Gaile Gray a message on her wiki page regarding the issue. She can assign task forces to investigate and monitor JQ/FA for these bots. Remember, she isn't Community Relations Manager anymore, she is the support liaison (aka, she has more power now)
StormX
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Botter: "Oh lemme go log in so i can leech"...
Guildwars: *loading gw* Botter: *type in password* Guildwars: *This account is banned due to a breach of the EULA* Botter: "WHAT ACCOUNT BANNED?!?!?! WTF ANET OMG QQ WHY BAN ME" That's what they deserve. |
Dishonor points should stack with heavier punishment(ie.BAN) for consecutive dishonors.
That said I'm also tired of getting dishonor points for reporting the [email protected] simply because the rest of the team can't be bothered to report or can't understand english. Something really needs to be done about that.
Nodair
There is a big problem with the whole reporting system, and that is that anyone can report anyone. That means if someone gets pissed off cause someone on there team sucks then that person can go and report that person. This was happening when the reporting system was first introduced people we getting reported for absolutely nothing but not being as good as everyone else. so basically if they would increase the punishment for dishonor more and more people will get banned for no reason and people with get other people banned for the fun of it.
Bob Slydell
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There is a big problem with the whole reporting system, and that is that anyone can report anyone. That means if someone gets pissed off cause someone on there team sucks then that person can go and report that person. This was happening when the reporting system was first introduced people we getting reported for absolutely nothing but not being as good as everyone else. so basically if they would increase the punishment for dishonor more and more people will get banned for no reason and people with get other people banned for the fun of it.
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Puddin Cheeks
It is useless to think there will be consequences to the botters/leechers. Most people that play FA i have seen dont even report leechers even when there are 3 on one team at a time. They are truly lazy and most of them don't care anyway. As far as follow bots, i have seen one person( name excluded) Running a follow bot in FA for well over 4 months and I know for a fact that he gets reported every single match that I'm in and as well as others stating they did as well. Obviously I must be some type of macro scripting thing and Anet doesn't get much of a damn anymore anyway.
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It is useless to think there will be consequences to the botters/leechers. Most people that play FA i have seen dont even report leechers even when there are 3 on one team at a time. They are truly lazy and most of them don't care anyway. As far as follow bots, i have seen one person( name excluded) Running a follow bot in FA for well over 4 months and I know for a fact that he gets reported every single match that I'm in and as well as others stating they did as well. Obviously I must be some type of macro scripting thing and Anet doesn't get much of a damn anymore anyway.
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But I do gotta say, a moving bot is better than a stationary one.....one more choice for the enemy to choice to attack....not "too" bad i have to say. ;D
StormX
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There is a big problem with the whole reporting system, and that is that anyone can report anyone. That means if someone gets pissed off cause someone on there team sucks then that person can go and report that person. This was happening when the reporting system was first introduced people we getting reported for absolutely nothing but not being as good as everyone else. so basically if they would increase the punishment for dishonor more and more people will get banned for no reason and people with get other people banned for the fun of it.
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Shasgaliel
they cannot easily bot HFFF anymore, they cannot bot vq so now they bot FA/JQ. Nothing special there.
Nodair
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That's why I said to implement punishment for consecutive dishonors. Typically if someone gets reported for some false reason it is usually a one off thing and the dishonor doesn't last that long anyway. However if the same individual gets dishonor like 10 times in one day then there probably is a good reason for it. Say for example, if you get dishonor more than 3 times a day you get banned from pvp for the rest of the day..that would discourage the serial leechers at least
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Ekelon
Lol failwars. I've seen some bots be more productive than actual players so I'm not really complaining. I'd rather a bot follow me around than a human player go work on their cartography title in FA or JA 
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That still doesn't change that fact that they can report any time they see you in game. If they wanted to get people banned whats to stop them from adding you to there list and any time they see you in game report you. If someone gets pissed off enough they will do anything to seek revenge on the other person. And its all anonymous so you don't know who reported you unless they tell you other wise. So making the punishments harsher will only hurt other players who are not leaching but getting reported by stupid people. Maybe if we lived in a perfect world where people don't do any wrong your stricter punishment might work but if that was the case there wouldn't be the need for a reporting system.
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And if a lot of different people report you.. you probably did something to piss them off. Please don't give people reasons to report you.
sibelang
i love this bots...
if i see them at the other side xD
or just F12 and switch acc and side to make it happen ><
if bothside have bots... meh Alt+F4 is better or just go GH and read some QQ at guildwarsguru/forum or watching anime
and got dishonor coz leaving arena is better than diversion my brain for 1 match
if i see them at the other side xD
or just F12 and switch acc and side to make it happen ><
if bothside have bots... meh Alt+F4 is better or just go GH and read some QQ at guildwarsguru/forum or watching anime
and got dishonor coz leaving arena is better than diversion my brain for 1 match
Bob Slydell
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i love this bots...
if i see them at the other side xD or just F12 and switch acc and side to make it happen >< if bothside have bots... meh Alt+F4 is better or just go GH and read some QQ at guildwarsguru/forum or watching anime and got dishonor coz leaving arena is better than diversion my brain for 1 match |
Marverick
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That's why I said to implement punishment for consecutive dishonors. Typically if someone gets reported for some false reason it is usually a one off thing and the dishonor doesn't last that long anyway. However if the same individual gets dishonor like 10 times in one day then there probably is a good reason for it. Say for example, if you get dishonor more than 3 times a day you get banned from pvp for the rest of the day..that would discourage the serial leechers at least
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bobrath
Actually no, they are botting to build up faction. If they can't get on for one day, then their profitability goes way down - reduce that benefit and the risk/reward equation goes out the door.
crazybanshee
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Good idea......but we shouldn't HAVE to leave, the bots need to be cleaned out. Why can't undercover GMs play in these bot-reported areas and witness them for themselves?
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Lycan Nibbler
Yep, stop the botters doing HFF and they just move to the next thing.. shame that anet did not just ban the HFF botters (properly) in the first place..anet wont do anything, they dont care about the game being broken in such ways.
cyberjanet
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Nerthing
Nothing will ever be done to the bots. Why?
/report is completely useless. Nobody takes it seriously because it does nothing.
Think the bots will get banned for breaking the rules? Wrong. Remember what happened to the HFFF bots?
/report is completely useless. Nobody takes it seriously because it does nothing.
Think the bots will get banned for breaking the rules? Wrong. Remember what happened to the HFFF bots?
Klem Da Aussie
I like the way how the mods RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing remove post by ef members defendig our guild when they still havent removed everthing else, if ur gonna delete posts do it right plz.
RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing
Just some insight onmy deleted posts, WE DONT SCAM< WE DONT SELL INVITES, WE DONT BOT AND WE DO SHIT LEGIT!
and its nice now that every RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing time i make a post this red engine shit appears
RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing
Just some insight onmy deleted posts, WE DONT SCAM< WE DONT SELL INVITES, WE DONT BOT AND WE DO SHIT LEGIT!
and its nice now that every RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing time i make a post this red engine shit appears
pumpkin pie
I found this bot-watch project on Ms Gaile's talk page.
Please use this page to report areas in which you're seeing a large number of bots. Identify as follows:
* Date
* Time and timezone
* Map Name, such as Marhan's Grotto
* District, such as Europe - Italy - District #1; International District #1
* Observation: Botting; gold sellers; etc.
* Please note: While we don't want you to list individual player character names (use /report to let us know about those), you are free to list the names of gold-selling companies that you see advertising in the game.
Thanks so much for your help!
Please use this page to report areas in which you're seeing a large number of bots. Identify as follows:
* Date
* Time and timezone
* Map Name, such as Marhan's Grotto
* District, such as Europe - Italy - District #1; International District #1
* Observation: Botting; gold sellers; etc.
* Please note: While we don't want you to list individual player character names (use /report to let us know about those), you are free to list the names of gold-selling companies that you see advertising in the game.
Thanks so much for your help!
Crispie
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baltarius
Warriors from the guild GoPK on the luxon's side are bots too...they are moving, attacking, using skill...but they all do the same path/skill's combination...but they will never move from an AoE spell like Ray of Judgment. They are following the first target they see... screenshot as evidence... i really hope Anet will do something about bots/leechers in JQ/AB/FA
crazybanshee
Wow, a whole bunch of follow bots in one match - epic. Seriously... something needs to be done about this. I don't go there often but when I do, I always run into these things.