Account-Wide HOM

I did some searching, couldn't find the thread/posts concerning the switch in the HOM to account-wide, so I figured I'd refresh the discussion.

When is this going to happen, because honestly it sounds like a load of crap shoveled onto our plates to keep us interested. What's the official word on this change and do we have a loose timeframe of when to expect this? Because as I remember it, it was supposed to be part of November's updates.

Could be a while since the GW dev team was reassigned to GW2. It also now seems that most of the GW2 team is working on GW3, so GW2 will be out as soon as the remaining 2 developers on the team can code it!

Seriously, who knows / never / this month.

Gotta remember that they could already have it done for GW, but still are working on it got GW2, in order it make it work, they gotta have them work togeather so that its not a failure. Also they gave no offical date on when it would be out, i figure sometime 09 and most likey closer to Gw2 Beta.

GW2's team was assigned before this change was announced. The best answer I can likely expect other than an actual time frame is that there are difficulties displaying armors that have no matches on the character for which the HOM is being displayed. If that's the case, then might I suggest displaying armors with the character's model and name that the armor is made for? That would require loading models of multiple characters on an account which might pose an issue but I don't know the details of the coding process.

I'd really like to see this change occur before I start customizing my non-main characters' torm/destroyer weapons.

This was as of September 25 of last year. The source is here: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena...l_of_Monuments

And why do you say it's a load of crap? Honestly, whatever cuts down on the work I do to make a better HoM for myself, I will think as a freaking blessing, especially since my main doesn't have all the titles some of my other characters have (considering some of those I have no desire to do again!!). I don't see how this update will be "bad" in any way. :/

If I remember correctly, it was stated that the GW1 side of the changes were done and they are working on the GW2 side.

So it can happen anytime, my bet is the next month without an event. Meaning first/second Thursday of February. February will be the earliest it shows, won't be this month due to the Canthan New Year.

Edit: Also, the November update was never to touch on the HoM, that was player speculation. The only update so far that was meant to have a HoM change was the October update, which had the Tormented weapons included.

Its bad because its punishes duplicity, those who actually play multiple characters will have their achievements nullified instead of recognized which was originally the purpose of the HoM. Take a guy who has 10 toons and finishes all campaigns on each one earning three protector titles per toon. This guy gets the same reward as some guy with one toon who completed every campaign which is nowhere near the achievement of the first player.

To be fair there is good as well. Take a guy like myself with a pre factions main who was unable to get Legendary Survivor or LDoA because the hero predates those particular titles. Any toon I make in GW2 will gather these rewards from other characters on the account as well as the rewards from my main. So as with any change half the community benefits and half get screwed.

There has been no news on this as of late so there is nothing to really add to what is known. The only thing they didn't tell us is the date of implementation anyway. So when news does come it won't be anything new.

I think they're hoping folks forget about it

I always viewed it as the other way around. It reduces grind needed for those who play multiple characters. Prior to the change, people need to get all the achievements/armors/etc. multiple times. After the change, only once. The only "bad" part about it is that those who filled out the HoM on multiple characters will have less benefits. But unless they grinded like crazy to do it (and if they did so prior to the announcement, they either are robots or eBays money), there won't be any "bad" parts without them being the idiots.

That won't be happening. As proven by yet another thread being made.

It will happen eventually. We just need to keep being patient... though sometimes complaining gets things done faster...

Find me "yet another" thread dealing with this and I'll gladly ask for this one to be closed. I did 10 minutes of searching using various key words and found nothing dealing specifically with this issue, only people injecting this issue into other update threads.

And it was given an "official" timeframe of November 2008 when it was first announced, but that timeframe was subsequently pushed back to "we don't know."

This seems to be anet's motto for everything now... that accompanied by deafening silence.

I have noticed that every toon I enter the HoM with already has a tapestry on the titles monument. They can't all access it, but it is there. I was able to add my survivor titles to it for my survivor, even though they don't have KoaBD yet.

That is the only one I have seen yet that is account wide though.

Frankly, while they're at it, I would like them to make the EotN titles account based as well. I am NOT looking forward to grinding those titles 4-5 more times.

From what I understand, nothing except the HoM is going account based. Although ppl had been asking for wisdom/treasure hunter to go account, it was not planned.

But I don't see the reason to max eotn titles on non-main chars.

In addition, I do not think that the account-wide HoM will affect KoaBD, you will still have to max all the titles on one char to get that rank.

They'll update HoM when they give us concept art for GW2. Basically it's a timeframe of 1 month - xx months.

It may be hard for you to believe, but there are many people out there with many stacks of ectos/zkeys they got legally. Don't assume everyone who has millions of gold are bots/ebayers.

Yet another person that if you have done more than them, then the blanket statement that you didnt do it a legitimate way /disgust

Adding a tapestry to the titles monument was never an option, and you never needed any maxed titles to add to that monument. Other than changing customized pets to be account wide nothing has been done to make it account wide. ( I mean that pets are customized to account instead of character, not the monument being account wide)

And he's an assassin what did you expect? They always think they are better than everyone until you blind one of them then they call you noob and cookie cutter and all kinds of foul names because they are useless without their eyes. lmao

Yeah he's a slimball, Don't even respond his venomous gibberish maybe he'll go away.

tbh if this update does happen soon it would revitalize my interest in gw, atm im dwindling and my playtime has dropped considerably, whereas if this happens i may be able to actually get my head around the title farming seeing as it would be for all my characters not just my monk.

Actually it not a punishment at all because they never explained how the HoM will work until last summer. You only speculated that you would gain benefits for doing the same title over and over again, but that didn't pan out. Personally i think ALOT of people assumed that it would be that your gw2 character would get benfit from only one of your gw1 character, that would explain the tons of title whoring that started to happen right after EotN when it was shown HoM wasn't account based.

Absolutely wrong. The titles were out 2 years before EoTN even came out. I didn't speculate anything and neither did any of the other thousands of players who were sitting at 22-25 maxed titles before EoTN and HoM were even revealed . To be honest I have duplicate titles only because I wanted a rainbow phoenix on all my guys and that was done way back before there was a HM when no one knew the max on the KoaBD track. The HoM is just about keeping your stuff be it armors or titles or whatever since there is no direct character transfer over to the sequel.

Again the title hunters hunted the titles years before there was an HoM and could really care less about it. You do have the people who just hopped up and started doing a bunch of stuff for the HoM just to keep up with the Jones, but that is not the average player. The average player is just going to put his stuff in the HoM and forget about it. IMO the only people who can't shut up about it are the people who don't have anything to put in it who seem to have some sort of weird complex about the whole thing.

HM was introduced four months before the Hall of Monuments. Rainbow Phoenix has always only been attainable through the HoM. How did you get something for all your characters months before the only method to get it was introduced?

That s true, I was mistaken. I remember grinding out ss/lb as my last titles to get the phoenix on all my characters. Since that those were nightfall titles I was thinking only nightfall was out. I stand corrected.

i dont see how it deters you from playing getting titles on multiple characters - its a bit of fun to get the titles and this actually allows you to both have the account based one as a benefit and also you can do a single on instead.

I don't see why people are in such a hurry for the account wide change in the first place. It doesn't make a difference until right before Guild Wars 2 comes out anyways. As it is now, nothing is hindering you from working on your titles.

Except for the fact that you must work only on one character now. And GW 2 is vaporware.

Plus, there is no sure way to tell if they even remember the account-wide HoM promise. I wouldn't count on it.

I guess main reason i hope the update come out is the hope that once u put that characters achievements into the HoM, they are saved to the account in case the character is delited. I beleive but dont' 100% sure account wide titles work that way, even if all your characters are delited. I guess i'm paranoid my account may get hacked, and my characters delited with all the work i've done for gw2 gone forever. Plus there at least another year probably 2 til gw2, if it isn't just vaporware, making me worry if it may be attack if i shelf the game during that period, and come back with it completely stripped.
Of course this is speculation in it self.

I hihgly doubt you did 10 minutes of searching, you probably entered "Hall of Monuments" and "HoM" and the like. Also, it is the threads where people "inject" the issue into is what I was talking about - aside from the original "update to HoM" thread and GWO threads.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena...-_24_June_2008
I do not see the word "November" mentioned anywhere here. Do you? This was the original post. The only other mention of the HoM changes was in the September update stating that the October update will have the Tormented Weapons added, which it did.

If I am looking in the wrong spot, I suggest you find where it was stated that the HoM changes would occur in November - by Anet staff please.

That has always been like that. The Honor monument doesn't need anything to be "activated" as it always is. The KoaBD just brings out that statue.

Title changes were made already. Anet said that those titles are not a big grind and with the HoM, you won't need to max them aside from the skill bonuses and counting for KoaBD - and tell me, how many of your characters are going for GWAMM or will need a skill in every title track all the time?

Uhhh, you are not up to date on the November update, are you? They made wisdom/treasure hunter go account, it was planned, for that update, the title update.
You two look at the present case. I said maxed multiple characters' HoM *meaning 20 mini pets, 11 Destroyer Weapons, 5 Elite Armor Sets* before the announcement. This was before Perma Shadow Form. Yes there are some that would be able to max out the HoM in a legit way, but not many. Besides, I said "grind" or "buy money" - i.e., grinding it is legit.

I have an assassin character, yes, but I do not use Perma Shadow Form. As hard as that is to believe, in fact, I hardly play my Assassin anymore. I do not call people noobs, and I make my own builds and never call others' builds - even if they are - cookie cutter builds.

Is this bash on me day? One small comment - that people seem to misunderstand - and I get automatically put on the "everyone hate this person on Guru" list?

I thought Guru had a little more merit than that. (Oh no, I'll be called something worse than a slimball for that one -__-)

Not like I insulted many people with that comment anyways.

I could have sworn my first character needed to put a tapestry up in there. Maybe even my second.

I ran in there with a toon that had never been to the eye, and the tapestry was already up.

As I recall, doing it the first time, you get a tapestry:
1) for getting to the Eye
2) for completing Norn quests
3) for completing Ebon Vangaurd quests
4) for completing Asura Quests
5) for completing Eotn.

Maybe I am mistaken. Wiki says Honor does not need to be activated, but I could swear that I had to activate it at one time.

You do not get a tapestry for completing the game. There are only four tapestries. There is no requirement to the Honor statue, never was.