Survivor title

The Thrasher

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

What's the fastest and cheapest way to r3 survivor?

Thanks in advance!

Forgotton200

Forgotton200

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Thrasher View Post
What's the fastest and cheapest way to r3 survivor?

Thanks in advance!
Kilroy's boxing.

gaweph

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Grolsch Guild

R/Mo

I believe he also asked Cheapest. Although the boxing is indeed the fastest, it also is only that way if you are willing to spend money on the triple xp scrolls.

If your after a fast and cheap method, then have a look at all of the alternatives on the GW wiki: wiki.guildwars.com

i believe hfff is the safest and fastest once you get to lutgardis conservatory, there are also others, but without the triple scrolls i do not think that the boxing is the fastest.

My Fav ==
Elite skill capping is a useful way, and also allows you to progtress through the campaigns at the same time (this makes for a more fun survivor title)
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DeFFik

DeFFik

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

Bielsko-Biała, Poland

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hfff was nerfed.. now you have to go and kill luxons so it isn't quick way to gain experience

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

~ Retired ~

Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

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I think you have to decide what matters more: fast, safe or cheap.

Killroy's is about as safe as it gets (you can still die though), but unless you spend some money on scrolls it is not that fast.

shogun avatar

shogun avatar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Croatia

Precko Boys [PREX]

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Killroy runs alone will net you enough money for 1 or 2 scrolls each run (if you run in HM), so run basicly pays for itself

dasmitchies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Sacred Forge Knights

W/P

Killroy, bar none. Even without scrolls there isnt a faster way to gain xp without either paying a leveler or major risk of death while farming.

Anon-e-mouse

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

Snow Worms outside of Boreal Station. 13 lvl 20 worms = 1300 XP per run. More if you use scrolls. And the drops from the worms are fairly ok, with the occasional lockpick and dyes.

Take ranged attacks/spells and there is no way you can phail.

Vehemence

Vehemence

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Perth

[LOD]

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I don't really like snow wurms farm since the wurms like to burrow and it really cost me a bunch of time. Is there is any way to prevent it from burrowing?

Anon-e-mouse

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

Give them bleeding or disease, then even if they do burrow, they still die, and you can move to the next target.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

My turn to chime in.

Yes SNOW WURMS IS the Fastest and the make you GOLD GOLD GOLD.

My IGN: A S L A N and I have the title running wurms. The trick is DO NOT USE NORMAL MODE.

OK jump on a different toon and complete GW:EN this gives access to HARD MODE then get on your survivor and click on gold old hard mode.

The wurms are then LVL 30. Yes LVL 30 and there are only 10 of them that you can kill. Yes normal mode has the 13 (other 3 at the bottom of the hill) but the "Oaks" will and I mean WILL kill you before you map out Happened to me once and I had to restart at lvl 2 of the title ( crappers.....I hated that day I went ape running around waving my arms in the air and shouting like a crazed animal))

Do not buy the 3X scrolls but rather the cheapest one. This will net you almost 500XP PER KILL! (492 Xp to be exact) times that by 10 and you can get a huge 5,000 xp in a 5 min run.

A S L A N is a War/Monk I used sword skills with WAR Endurance to keep energy up and then went with Healing Breeze for health regen. After 3 weeks of tweaking my build just right I could kill all 10 wurms before the scroll ran out.

Took me a while but there is a PATTERN to the WURMS. If you approach some of them they will pop right out of the ground or they will go under the ground and then pop right back up. Uses this to sequence the Wurms for effective killing and skills/heath regeneration in combination with scrolls so that the scrolls do not expire.

So if I went ape for a 3 hour period i would easily net 150,000 XP. Not only that but I would average one gold every 3-4 runs and do not forget to get the chests.

Use your lockpicks that you pick up to open HARD MODE CHESTS. There is nothing like getting a For Get Me not at 19% (man that sucks). In hard mode I got 2 Forget me Nots at 20% which I sold one for 25K and the other for 22K. There is gold to be had here that is for sure.

So recap...

HARD MODE
OPEN CHESTS with FOUND LOCKPICKS
Use CHEAPEST SCROLLS
Learn PATTER OF Wurm POP UPS
GET a RUNNING SKILL
Have Fun

nameless bond

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by imnotyourmother View Post
My turn to chime in.

Yes SNOW WURMS IS the Fastest and the make you GOLD GOLD GOLD.

My IGN: A S L A N and I have the title running wurms. The trick is DO NOT USE NORMAL MODE.

OK jump on a different toon and complete GW:EN this gives access to HARD MODE then get on your survivor and click on gold old hard mode.

The wurms are then LVL 30. Yes LVL 30 and there are only 10 of them that you can kill. Yes normal mode has the 13 (other 3 at the bottom of the hill) but the "Oaks" will and I mean WILL kill you before you map out Happened to me once and I had to restart at lvl 2 of the title ( crappers.....I hated that day I went ape running around waving my arms in the air and shouting like a crazed animal))

Do not buy the 3X scrolls but rather the cheapest one. This will net you almost 500XP PER KILL! (492 Xp to be exact) times that by 10 and you can get a huge 5,000 xp in a 5 min run.

A S L A N is a War/Monk I used sword skills with WAR Endurance to keep energy up and then went with Healing Breeze for health regen. After 3 weeks of tweaking my build just right I could kill all 10 wurms before the scroll ran out.

Took me a while but there is a PATTERN to the WURMS. If you approach some of them they will pop right out of the ground or they will go under the ground and then pop right back up. Uses this to sequence the Wurms for effective killing and skills/heath regeneration in combination with scrolls so that the scrolls do not expire.

So if I went ape for a 3 hour period i would easily net 150,000 XP. Not only that but I would average one gold every 3-4 runs and do not forget to get the chests.

Use your lockpicks that you pick up to open HARD MODE CHESTS. There is nothing like getting a For Get Me not at 19% (man that sucks). In hard mode I got 2 Forget me Nots at 20% which I sold one for 25K and the other for 22K. There is gold to be had here that is for sure.

So recap...

HARD MODE
OPEN CHESTS with FOUND LOCKPICKS
Use CHEAPEST SCROLLS
Learn PATTER OF Wurm POP UPS
GET a RUNNING SKILL
Have Fun

could you post your skill bar for us here?

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

Sure.

Healing Breeze
War Endurance - Elite
Sprint
Gash
Sever Artery
Flurry
Pure strike
Galrath Slash

Start off with Sever and then Gash. This reduces the health of the wurm to almost 50% right off the top.
Then spam Pure and Slash AT THE SAME TIME. One will hit on the forehand and the other on the back hand for fast damage.

As you can see Keep the War Endurance going. I have Strength at 15 and sword at 14 and Monk skill healing breeze gets the rest.

When it is around 1/4 Health hit frenzy. the moment it dies RUN to the next wurm. Strike it 4 times for adren if you do not have any left cause you are using sever and gash as they become available. Why?? cause they have 20% ARMOR PEN! Even if it is still bleeding use it again and again.

Of course use sprint right when you leave. Oh always get the Norn hunt thing as you go. Points are points. I have lvl 5 norn on my Survivor sure I did this. You will get 20 points a run. You will need to kill almost 2,800 wurms for max title and that is 5,600 Norn points gone to waist.

Now that you have the skills you need to figure out what weapon to use and what shield if you are Meele.

I was amazed at what sort of damage the SNOW wurm does. It is not what you think.

nameless bond

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/W

i currently use a sundering highlander blade of fortitude (perfect) and an Agis of Terror I have so much trouble finding a shield thats any good,

also what runes should I run? I currently have

head survivor/minor swords
Chest knights/vitae
Hands survivor/sup absorb
legs knights/vitae
feet survivor/major health (can't remember what it's called

Massive Impulsa

Massive Impulsa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

In Viking land! (Norwaii)

Beyond the Gates of Infinity [sKy]

R/Mo

Nameless bond a little tip put the Armor runes on

#1Chest
#2Leggs
(Check Wiki on Armor or something)
in this order since they takes the most damage / reduces most.

Also if your going full perfect armor getting Elemental reduce dmg mod on your sword

7+ vs Ele and maybe getting the Sentinel armor (13strengt| 20armor vs ele)

So thats my toughts^^

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

Well runes are very important. You want Health health and more health.

I do not like absorb especially since you are loosing 75 heath. Its pointless.

I use the one that gives +20 Armor with Strength at 13. I can not remember the name.

I then run SUP Sword and Sup Strength. Yes I loose 150 health but killing FAST is the key if you are using scrolls. The healing breeze takes all of a second to cast and off you go.

So Survivors on the chest and the other healths all the way around.

My head piece I used Sword just because that is what I prefer.

I also have the Health +50 on my armor.


Also please take note. If you are trying things out and tweaking your playing style bring a hero. Yes they take half of your xp but you will not dye this way. Hero's are stupid too so bring healing breeze on your hero as its ONLY and I mean ONLY skill. Remember death = fail

I used Koss that I picked up in nightfall. Just kill wurms and he will lvl up fast. Give him healing breeze and nothing else. He will add damage and heal you and himself.

Your weapon is Very important. Remember that the wurms are MEELE. So I use FIRE!!!!! its a SNOW WURM!!! Does way better damage ALL OF THE TIME not 1 in 5? What are people thinking. Sundering sucks. Its a lazy way to maybe get a bonus once every 5 hits.

Come on people FIRE damage. That's a no brainer against a SNOW WURM. As for the health +30 it is interesting.

Here's why.. Armor +7 vrs PHYSICAL Wurms are PHYSICAL damage dealers right cause they are Meele right?? WRONG. They deal Fire damage. WTF did he say you are thinking to yourself.

WELL after 3 weeks of testing and pattern running. Fire is the type of damage. Therefore you are better served with at STRENGTH Shield with 16 armor +10 in the fire and +30 health. Your sword should be FIERY whatever sword 15-22 dmg with +7 vrs ele damage then Strengh and honor 15% more damage as your inscription.

The +7 will give you armor of 133 vrs the wurms. If you find that frenzy kills you a bit fast. Get the dolyak's signet ( spelling might be wrong) and use that the moment you strike the wurm and SPAM frenzy as you will not take 2X more damage I would swap out the run skill.

I do not own Factions so there might be some killa skills there that I do not have access to that you might want to try instead of mine.

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

I saw this post here the other day when I was looking for a way to level up my heroes. There was this reply by daze that I thought was bloody brilliant:

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Originally Posted by daze View Post
I have yet to try my method using the fire imp but i imagine that it would make the process faster. Since im almost off work ill hurry up and post my method anyways.
Quests needed to be open - Welcome to cantha, chasing zenmai
Items needed - lightbringer scrolls, unlocked MM skills, gold to pay taxi...
Helpful Items - Max armor, runes, elite tomes, Fire imp

Step 1: Create character in nightfall (because it is the fastest route to the other campaigns)
Step 2: Get ferry to consulate docks (for Max armor and taxis to LA and KC)
Step 3: Have friend help or find runner for olias quest (make olias MM)
Step 4: Taxi to KC (pick up Welcome to Cantha and Chasing Zenmai)
Step 5: Go outside KC to Bukdek byway (bring only Olias with MM build and monk spells to keep minions healed)
>>>>>>Stand near Mhenlo until he stops talking and starts following you
>>>>>>Go to where Zenmai spawns (kill the popups) talk to zenmai she will follow you
>>>>>>backtrack a bit then go to the middle to where Emi is and wait till she follows.
Step 6: Kill enemies in a path that takes out the bulk of them in 10 minutes(LB scroll takes 10 minutes)

You will have a team of 8 but the exp will be split between only you and olias (team of 9 if you count your fire imp)

[hint] let your allies block for you and let them hold aggro, depending on what profession you play you may want to just support them or olias.

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Each run takes about 15 minutes upon entering Bukdek byway (including picking up allies)
At first you will gain 3 to 4 levels per run (about 800 exp per enemy)

When you hit level 12, kick olias because you wont need the protection anymore.

But my fastest time is 3 and a half hours from creation.. Im curious to see what the time is for other peoples methods too. Please post your times.
Now I dunno how well it works past leel 20, but I figured that it was worth an honorable mention at least.

As for my own personal opinion, I hate Kilroy's boxing. B (wait for it) ORING. I'd rather do hm worms, boring as well, but the rewards are more.... well.... rewarding. I used the worms to level up some heroes and it works fine.

Deimos Zargarda

Deimos Zargarda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Many Professions can farm the Undead in the Gates of Kryta Mission, taking the back way where the large group spawns, I got it that way for my Ele in HM, you will get 10k Faction in 5 Min., more with Scrolls.

Forgotton200

Forgotton200

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaweph View Post
I believe he also asked Cheapest. Although the boxing is indeed the fastest, it also is only that way if you are willing to spend money on the triple xp scrolls.

If your after a fast and cheap method, then have a look at all of the alternatives on the GW wiki: wiki.guildwars.com

i believe hfff is the safest and fastest once you get to lutgardis conservatory, there are also others, but without the triple scrolls i do not think that the boxing is the fastest.

My Fav ==
Elite skill capping is a useful way, and also allows you to progtress through the campaigns at the same time (this makes for a more fun survivor title)
==
I don't think so Tim. I never bought a single triple xp scroll. I used the quest reward item to exchange it for the cheap xp scrolls and I got r3 survivor in 2 days (I played all day though), including from the time I created the new character and to the r3 survivor. I also made 80k from selling items to merchant and I still have couple Elite warrior tomes from the drop in kilroy's boxing. The 80k could've been used to pay for the triple xp scrolls on every or almost every run to make it even faster.

Absinth187

Absinth187

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

32??45′26.49″N, 97??19′59.45″W

Some Like It Hot [sake]

Quote:
Originally Posted by imnotyourmother View Post
I do not like absorb especially since you are loosing 75 heath. Its pointless.
You are mistaken.

BogusDude

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

MARA

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Don't you guys think that this title has been devalued so much now, you can get r1 in a hour now, that the "0 /death" should removed and replaced with consecutive exp. I always felt it was a cool title when it was first released until i realised it excluded any chars you'd already created and even back then i'd used all my slots up and would only want it on me main anyway

It doesn't really hold any purpose or value anymore unless you just want to do it properly for the challenge, which excludes all the quickest and easiest methods

Start char in nightfall
ferry to LA
go to D'alessio Seaboard and kill the mob outside the wall, change zone, repeat upto lvl 10
get runner to gunnars
Do the Kilroy dungeon with scrolls for last 10

watch this video

realtalk916

realtalk916

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2008

California

Reign Of Judgment [RoJ]

W/E

as everyone said, kilroy, can get to 20 in an hour and a half that way, scrollls r optional

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

OK I am wrong. I still do not use them. I would rather deal more damage as My armor rating is sky high and healing breeze will counteract any of the 22-28 damage that I take when the wurm hits me in HM. So even at 350 health or so it the wurm will not kill me even if I do not activate the skill.

I can kill a snow wurm in NM in around 7-8 hits and around 12-14 hits in HM. That is just enough time to kill the wurm before it goes into the ground. I can kill 2 of the wurms that are side by side in HM if I have my skills charged before the second one goes into the ground 90% of the time.