Why no "balance" comes to PvP!

gfullgrates

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Only so few people can change things in Guild Wars! very little people who still play the game get to decide what happens and they get to keep power! Why is this? What goes on?

There are forms that Izzy skill balancer makes to get help with skill balance and only so little people get to contribute. The rest public get to sit back and watch while these little people get to decide and know everything far before things happen? What is this?

sorry for my English

[DE]

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Oh no, Riverside finally caught wind of Izzy's super secret forum.

While members of [rawr] do have a say on the forum you're blowing the whole thing out of proportion. Izzy isn't that biased.

Div

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god damn rawr!

ele pl

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lol @ palm strike nerf
One skill changed? Nice

Sindo

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lololololololol what a dumbass

Winterclaw

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If you don't like it stop playing and don't buy GW2.

Master Knightfall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by [DE] View Post
Oh no, Riverside finally caught wind of Izzy's super secret forum.

While members of [rawr] do have a say on the forum you're blowing the whole thing out of proportion. Izzy isn't that biased.
Yes HE is and has always been. Just look at rangers overpowerment with interupts and most especially energy management. When a 15e skill only costs them 5e and everyone else 15 and they can spam touch touch touch without blinking an eye for energy something is definitely not balanced with the class. Rangers have never been nerfed enough and have always been overpowered.

Age

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They simply washed thier hands of it and gave up.

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They do more damage than warriors at a longer range and have lots of good interrupts
They do?

ZenRgy

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall View Post
Yes HE is and has always been. Just look at rangers overpowerment with interupts and most especially energy management. When a 15e skill only costs them 5e and everyone else 15 and they can spam touch touch touch without blinking an eye for energy something is definitely not balanced with the class. Rangers have never been nerfed enough and have always been overpowered.
And all credibility is lost when you mention touch rangers.

kvndoom

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If you don't like it stop playing and don't buy GW2.
amen. Vote with your wallet. Send a complaint to Anet directly and tell them why you won't support them financially anymore. This post will serve to change nothing.

+1, IBTL, yadda yadda...

Bug John

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Originally Posted by gfullgrates View Post
Why is this? What goes on?
Izzy has a negative IQ, that's all...

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Originally Posted by holymasamune View Post
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and, as you can see, he's not the only one

Rothan Celt

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Aura

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And all credibility is lost when you mention touch rangers.
I <3 you......

TrippieHippie89

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Knightfall View Post
Yes HE is and has always been. Just look at rangers overpowerment with interupts and most especially energy management. When a 15e skill only costs them 5e and everyone else 15 and they can spam touch touch touch without blinking an eye for energy something is definitely not balanced with the class. Rangers have never been nerfed enough and have always been overpowered.
alright...unless i've missed some HUGE reappearance of touch rangers in the 2 weeks or so ive been away from gw....i cant remember the last time i saw one outside of AB/RA

which would make you a complete idiot who probably doesnt know shit about pvp outside of the above mentioned formats

TrippieHippie89

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lololololololol what a dumbass
dude, tell your cousin i said sup

Forgotton200

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[burning arrow] is balanced. It's [poison arrow] that needs a nerf. plz no nerf BA.

Wish Swiftdeath

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Originally Posted by Forgotton200 View Post
[burning arrow] is balanced. It's [poison arrow] that needs a nerf. plz no nerf BA.
shut the hell up

everyone knows it's punishing shot that's OP

lord of all tyria

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Oh my god only good people are allowed access to a forum about game balance! How dare bad people not be allowed to try and make stupid suggestions!

Shadowmoon

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I think the main complaint is that they know weeks in advance what skills are being altered, while the rest of us find out a few hours AFTER the update goes live. I have no problem that the best pvper are consultants, i have a problem that seem to be the only voice (izzy doesn't play gw anymore) and their bias seems like the only thing that gets heard.

jiggles

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Join Date: Sep 2007

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most of the top pvp'ers who post on izzy's supa sekret forumz dislike him still because he never listens to them

shut the hell up now plz

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

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Yeah stupid people like me like to play gw PvP. I do it all the time for fun. I just go and stand there and sit on the ground and die. Makes people feel good. gg they say. I am like gg. I'm sitting on the ground. look here I am.

Someone said what are you doing this is pvp not an out post. I said then you had better kill be before I get up and send a virus to your computer!. He killed me and I never got up.

Too funny. I wonder what the worst rank I can get is. Maybe I'll go without armor next time.. ohhh I will laugh.
PvP stands for People very pissedoff

Lykan

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Still waiting for Izzy to approve my forum membership.

Yarly

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Divine couldn't have put it better. qqmoar

What Now

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ele pl View Post
lol @ palm strike nerf
One skill changed? Nice
If this skills nerfed you seriously are oblivious to pvp tbh :S if you kite away you can easily remove it with mend touch/dismiss before they reach you to continue the chain, and you can pull of a chain without even cripple which shows its not the skill. That and dshoting it makes it as reliable as backbreaker tbh :S the games fine people just forgot how to play.

Master Knightfall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenRgy View Post
And all credibility is lost when you mention touch rangers.
Yep the credibility of Izzy for allowing rangers to have the use of those skills in the first place. But, of course touch rangers aren't the only overpowered build rangers have. But, there's a lot of them in pvp at any rate.

Krill

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I'm pretty sure if Izzy posted on public forums or responded to players on his wiki page like some anet employees do it wouldn't change anything, he'd just being ignoring a larger group of players.

Abedeus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Knightfall View Post
Yep the credibility of Izzy for allowing rangers to have the use of those skills in the first place. But, of course touch rangers aren't the only overpowered build rangers have. But, there's a lot of them in pvp at any rate.
Are you sane?

The last OP build Rangers had was the Escape Scythe used in Sway.

Touch Rangers suck. You just have to drain their energy/cripple them/interrupt their touch skills (3/4, when they constantly spam it, is easy)/KITE/learn to avoid them.

They are only "mediocre" in AB, where people are idiots. They are bad everywhere else.

Still have to see other overpowered Ranger build there.

Skyy High

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Join Date: May 2006

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Originally Posted by What Now View Post
If this skills nerfed you seriously are oblivious to pvp tbh :S if you kite away you can easily remove it with mend touch/dismiss before they reach you to continue the chain, and you can pull of a chain without even cripple which shows its not the skill. That and dshoting it makes it as reliable as backbreaker tbh :S the games fine people just forgot how to play.
Unblockable damage, snare, and dual-attack enabler on a 4 second recharge is OP, period. Also, good luck "kiting away to remove the condition" when you're crippled and the sin is right next to you. Yeah, you can kite the sin beforehand, but a) that's an argument against every melee build, it says nothing about how powerful one melee build is in comparison to another, and b) sins have shadowsteps.

Age

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath View Post
shut the hell up

everyone knows it's punishing shot that's OP
Punishing Shot nah and who uses it these days.

[DE]

[DE]

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Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Knightfall View Post
Yep the credibility of Izzy for allowing rangers to have the use of those skills in the first place. But, of course touch rangers aren't the only overpowered build rangers have. But, there's a lot of them in pvp at any rate.
What overpowered ranger bars are being used in PvP? The current GvG standard of Mshot with Apply and BA with RtW can hardly be considered overpowered.

Arkantos

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Yes, Izzy has a private forum where he discusses balance with experienced players. Is he not allowed?

This 'discussion' is over.