I am torn ..should i go with warrior or an assassin ..

When I read your post, I lol'd.

See, here's the thing...tank n spank doesnt work for regular PvE, like vanquish and what not.

[build;OwpiMypMtIWDKDq/8WCgxcBdBA] - sin

Heros:
[build;OAhkUwG4hGKUMDbgdgC4ujlQiQyF]
[build;OANDUslfOxsqAaQpWPCIQNZC]
[build;OAhkUoG4hFuTMDRkxkmN7h548iB]

I use something like that most of the time, and I've never needed SY! in HM.

Lets go over what I said again...



If you ABSOLUTELY need it, (i.e you absolutely cannot complete missions, vanquishes...things like that) without SY!, you are baed. Why? Possible reasons:

1 -> Your playstyle is poor.
2 ->You aggro a lot.
3 ->You dont have efficient builds which allow you to kill fast.


Clinging to the +100 AL like a crutch, because SY! is just as overpowered as [shadow form], [protective spirit] + [spirit bond], [cry of pain], etc etc etc, is WORSE in fact, than the Shadow Form Tank n Spank you so despise.

Here's why.

SHADOW FORM + CRYWAY TANK N SPANK IS USED IN STUFF LIKE FOW SC, DOA & URGOZ MAYBE. BUT SY! IS ABUSED EVERYWHERE BY PEOPLE. IN NORMAL MODE QUESTS, IN MISSIONS, EVERYWHERE.

This is an issue because it is promoting a style of play where, without SY! (and more often than not [there's nothing to fear!]), players are left incapable of doing simple things for themselves. I speak of this from experience based on my interactions with some players in my old alliance.

And finally, although I've wasted quite a bit of time explaining why you are "baed" if you absolutely need it, I dont expect a rational response from you because you are making personal attacks on my guild & are making the assumption that all I can do in PvE is cryway. =] none of that refutes the point in my post. where you use the builds is irrelevant. whoever posted the SY build posted it as an optimal warrior build. you assumed people who run it might ABSOLUTELY need SY and are therefore baed, while at the same time arguing that sins>warriors because they are more useful in optimal farming builds. why not also assume that people who run those farming builds ABSOLUTELY need cryway to beat those areas and are therefore also bad?
the truth is running either build does not mean you absolutely need it, it means you want to run the optimal build for whatever it is you're doing. for vanqing on a war, that's an SY build. for farming whatever area, that's cryway.
for some reason you're imagining that SY is more conductive of bad play than cryway because it is used in normal gameplay rather than in speed farms. where they're used is irrelevant, it's all pve and playing either of them anywhere will have the same effect on the players if they aren't good enough to already know that that isn't what guild wars pvp is like - i say pvp because that is in fact what guild wars pve is like; if you're good at cryway or SY you're good at a pve game that allows you to use cryway or SY. i agree that SY can hinder bad players from developing into better players, but cryway isn't any better. and that's why promoting cryway as an optimal build that anyone should use if their goal is to quickly do something which is most quickly completed by using cryway while at the same time saying that people who use SY to quickly complete a task which is most quickly completed by using SY are bad because they ABSOLUTELY need it is hypocritical. <--in after run on sentence.
and i'm allowed to make fun of LOD because everything i said about them is true. you wouldn't be offended by the truth, now, would you?

p.s. no, i'm never gonna proofread that pile of words i just wrote so if you, like myself, can't read it then too bad for us.

p.p.s tl;dr: as long as cryway and SY are part of guild wars pve two things will be true:
1)being good at them will = being good at pve. you can't suggest that they contribute to poor playing style unless your main goal is to play a game where cryway and SY are not available (i call this game pvp). therefore your argument that SY makes players bad is moot, and even your reasoning is internally inconsistent so as to make such an assertion hypocritical.
2)you should play pvp because it's better and instead of doing urgoz real fast and having the 100 other random people in ur guild thinking PWNZILLA is the coolest thing in guild wars you'll be winning tournaments and having gold capes and if you make a time machine to go back in time you'll even win real money prizes.

p.p.p.s. warriors>assassins

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

/winthread.

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