Request Confirmation on Everlasting Sinister

Horace Slughorn

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Hey friends,

There's an Everlasting Sinister Tonic for sale in high end atm, and I was just wondering if anyone has seen such an item in game? If so, please post a screen shot and information on where it drops (I would assume zchest, but who knows).

Just curious

Darkhorse

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I suspect it's a scam.

A11Eur0

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What's the point of posting a for sale thread...if it's not real then the "buyer" will see that right away and he's not going to get anything but banned from Guru.

EroChrono

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If it excists it probably drops from the ZChest, otherwise it would be a dungeon drop, which would probably be Oola's Lab.
Eitherway it's nowhere near worth the amount currently being offered/asked in that thread.

chef arrow

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http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ever...er_Automatonic

Dr.Jones

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this was said about the topic at hand, Linsey Murdock said on Emily Diehl's talk page:
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Originally Posted by Linsey Murdock
"I can confirm that it is a "real" tonic. It was made just in case we ever want to use it, however it is not accessible in the game, ANYWHERE at this time. It does exist in the .dat but it does NOT drop from ANYTHING, including the Zaishen chest. There is absolutely no chance that it drops from the Zaishen chest or anything else. This has been confirmed through code. I hope that was definitive enough. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC) "
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_... r_Automatonic

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The guy who's selling it joined yesterday, and made a pc thread of the tonic yesterday also. In the post he was asking how much it would cost if someone had one. Now he magically has one himself so I doubt this it exists.

jeri blade

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ya it is real it was a drop off the z chest in june and no u cant get it anymore unless it drops again next june and ya dont know about this one but some of the other ones do go for silly money

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ishencalendar/

he said everlasting sinister which is
full name is Everlasting Sinister Automatonic out of z chest

daraaksii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeri blade View Post
ya it is real it was a drop off the z chest in june and no u cant get it anymore unless it drops again next june and ya dont know about this one but some of the other ones do go for silly money

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ishencalendar/
Fail.

We are talking about sinister tonic.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeri blade View Post
ya it is real it was a drop off the z chest in june and no u cant get it anymore unless it drops again next june and ya dont know about this one but some of the other ones do go for silly money

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ishencalendar/

he said everlasting sinister which is
full name is Everlasting Sinister Automatonic out of z chest
No its not the June Zchest tonic was call simply Automatonic and its counterpart was this:

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Everlasting_Automatonic

Everlasting Automatonic is an item that drops from the Zaishen Chest. It was available from June 5 through July 10, 2008.

Sinister automatonics where rewarded for completing M.O.X quest chain and there is no everlasting counterpart in game as seen in the above post of lindsey's post saying its not in game as of now. That was a few months ago so it is possible that i might of been added but until there is a real screen of the event then there is no Everlasting Sinister Tonic.

therangereminem

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like some have said befor e it does not drop in game yet , but there is one in the dat file, and linsey has told us that thy have not added it game. and my talks with her the other day she still said it dont drop

I pwnd U

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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tonic

The wiki also confirms that there is one but it is not in game.

Jade

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Canada...... Eh!

I was actually over at my buddies yesterday afternoon while he was running around LA. He was at the storage by the exit and as he turned and ran he passed by someone using a tonic that changed them into a golem. I noticed that the chest section was red and asked my buddy what was that, he replied that it was prolly just his crappy video card. Now his video card is crappy, I mean his pvp rit has all her stuff dyed blue but the head and pants look like a lighter color. So I just assumed that his card was the cause behind the discoloration. Then today I read this post and find out that there was a tonic (available or not) that changed one into a golem with a red belly.

I think that'd be about number 1127 on the times I wish I would've taken a screenshot.

I'm not saying that it does exist, but.... has anyone ever tried to contact the guy in that high end post and ask him to see it in action? I mean if he says yes, then take a ss and put it here somewhere. If he says no, then I guess it's an automatic fail.


immortius

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Well, it could have been just the readily available Sinster Automatonic and not the everlasting kind.

therangereminem

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just becuz some turned into the tonic dot mean its everlasting , ther eis a norn tonic for sinster, but no everlasting at all yet ingame

thread needs to be closed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by I pwnd U View Post
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tonic

The wiki also confirms that there is one but it is not in game.
I would usually say don't trust wiki as a policy but your right

Linsey out done herself there on the confirmation

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well,didnt anet say something that the polar bear didnt exist either...geeweez rocket scientists....every1 didnt think it didnt exist until anet em self said it did exist...and woopsi doo... and all the noobs got like WTF PWND..omgogmg....

Puebert

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Well, they wanted it to be a surprise (the mini PB) so they never told Gaile so she never knew it had been implemented.

Its not her fault, she honestly thought it was not in game yet.
And I'm almost 100% sure ANet doesn't want to make that mistake again.
So I bet they tell their CR now when something is going to get implemented, which is why we get answers like, "there are no plans to put this in the game yet" and stuff like that.

sykoone

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Considering Linsey is part of the team that adds the content to the game, if she says it's not dropping, then it's not dropping. The everlasting is a scam.

therangereminem

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i correct myself in all i have said and i have not talked to linsey in about 2 days so have not asked her about this tonic in about 1 month

[img=http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6537/proofsinsterxb9.th.jpg]

Arkantos

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The 6th post answers the question. There is one, but it is not accessible in the game.

therangereminem

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i thought i was a hoax too but seen it in game

http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sinsterxb9.jpg

it does drop and from the z chest has sence wintersday, same thign withgrentchie and frosty

the other thread abotu this was closed saying it not in game

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fenix

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There was already a thread about this, why would you make a new one?

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Idk if it was my computer but when I looked at screen shot it crashed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by warrior running View Post
Idk if it was my computer but when I looked at screen shot it crashed
It's your computer. Nothing happened when I looked at it.

Kerwyn Nasilan

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i liek how u blur out party screen yet leave name in target box lols

Gift3d

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan View Post
i liek how u blur out party screen yet leave name in target box lols
it's his own name.

Kerwyn Nasilan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d View Post
it's his own name.
Never seen an assassin with a monk character model/armor

Just talked to the guy in game, says he had it but was GvGing atm so I could not get another screen, asked him where he got it and said he bought it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
There was already a thread about this, why would you make a new one?
So As usual the OP Feel Special
about an Discussed Topic
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Dr.Jones

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lies one shotty screen i need to see this in game if its real other wise a hoax just like green cristal line sword. also the s in the sinister is messed up. so gg

therangereminem

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Jones View Post
lies one shotty screen i need to see this in game if its real other wise a hoax just like green cristal line sword. also the s in the sinister is messed up. so gg

there nothign messe dup in the screen. your pnly saying that becuz you dont belive it but its in game and he is sellign it there nothign wrogn with the creen i use paint to blur out names nothign more i dont know how to photoshop at all pm the guy and ask him , i fyou need his name pm me illgive it to you

Konig Des Todes

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Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem View Post
there nothign messe dup in the screen. your pnly saying that becuz you dont belive it but its in game and he is sellign it there nothign wrogn with the creen i use paint to blur out names nothign more i dont know how to photoshop at all pm the guy and ask him , i fyou need his name pm me illgive it to you
While the pic looks legit to me (I suck at telling photoshop from the real thing anyways), your spelling is terrible. Also, you left his name in the screen, as pointed out, in the target box.

Personally, I hope it is not legit. Because it's bad enough with the regular Golems, the regular everlasting Golems, the sinister tonics, the yeti, and the everlasting yetis.

We don't need more huge tonics.

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

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everyone who thinks its a hoax, go look at the first page of the mini polar bear thread, everyone sayin, hoax, shopped blah blah blah....i think its legit, why would they have the ever. regular and not the ever. sinister.

no judging book by cover...tsk tsk tsk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rak Orgon of Beowulf View Post
everyone who thinks its a hoax, go look at the first page of the mini polar bear thread, everyone sayin, hoax, shopped blah blah blah....i think its legit, why would they have the ever. regular and not the ever. sinister.

no judging book by cover...tsk tsk tsk
You mean another case of one dev not knowing what the other devs are doing? While possible, one would think Linsey was a lot more careful before making the statement that she did, saying it is not in game at all.

Leaning toward fake, at least until more screenshots do show up.

*fixed Thanks Zidane, got confused on who said what

TideSwayer

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therangereminem, for the love of god man, your writing is horrendous. Do you take leaks with your eyes closed too? Obviously you type that way. Why on earth should anybody read what you write when it's perfectly clear you don't even read what you write?

For the prices an Everlasting Sinister would probably go for in town, I think I could live with the color-swapped Automatonic instead for much cheaper.

leighx

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Not wanting to fuel a fire that is dying anyway, but I have question?

If this is real and I will take it all back if it is...

Where the chars name has been scribbled out in the trade window, where it says "Trade with" ~~~~~. The white boarder of the description box is perfectly intacted. all the way along the top and down the left hand side. If you screenied this and then scribbled his name out, judging by all your other scribbles I doubt if it would be this perfect.

Maybe a few screenies of another tonic he actually does have photoshopped, then the edited description pasted over the old one?

Leighx

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame View Post
You mean another case of the CM not knowing what the devs are doing? While possible, one would think Regina was a lot more careful before making the statement that she did, saying it is not in game at all.

Leaning toward fake, at least until more screenshots show up.

Um Regina had nothing to do with this if it was Linsey back in October on her talk page on wiki that it says its made, in the .dat file but has not been placed in the game.

As I said on another post about this same topic October was 3 months ago. Why make a tonic put it in the .dat file and the let it rot it was obviously going ingame they just had to span it out over a few months do to them adding the everlasting mischievous and frosty tonic over wintersday. My guess is that its real and they added it when they added the Cerebal tonics last Thursday.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by leighx View Post
Not wanting to fuel a fire that is dying anyway, but I have question?

If this is real and I will take it all back if it is...

Where the chars name has been scribbled out in the trade window, where it says "Trade with" ~~~~~. The white boarder of the description box is perfectly intacted. all the way along the top and down the left hand side.

Leighx
Well spotted. Lucky sweep with the paintbrush or has the box been pasted over?

Tough one.

Kattar

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Until Linsey or Regina say otherwise, this tonic still does not exist. All the "screenshots" in the world won't prove otherwise.