Hi - This is a good dervish build, stop asking if yours is.

@vendetta, dervs aren't casters so i don't see why you need 6-8 energy regen. You mentioned energy management. ;3

Here's some numbers for you.

14 scythe mastery
Kurzick Title Track rank 7
Asura Title Track rank 10

[Victorious Sweep] critical 60 ar foe [115] [86+29] damage
[Victorious sweep] ctitical 60 ar foe while enchanted with [Aura of holy might] [163] damage

Auto-attack critical 60 ar foe [86] damage
Auto-attack critical 60 ar foe hexed with [Asuran Scan] [150] damage
Auto-attack critical 60 ar foe hexed with [Asuran Scan] while enchanted with [Aura of Holy Might] [234] damage

That's 35 additional points of damage auto attack vs [victorious sweep] with [asuran scan] and a 71 point difference with [Asuran Scan]+[Aura of Holy Might].

I dunno about you but 71 points of damage is pretty substantial. This is just auto-attacking. The skills in the Wounding strike build posted earlier recharge quickly allowing for a two attack spike with deep wound possible every 4 seconds. If you get lucky you could possibly hit a foe for 498 damage and applied a deep wound. Why do you always take the critical damage? It will rarely ever happen.
I could just as easily say:
Auto attack minimal damage: 9
Auto attack minimal damage with [[Asuran scan]: 13
Victorious sweep: 38 (= 9 + 29)
Obviously [[Victorious Sweep] is stronger then the Scan Yes I know this calculation is wrong, but so is yours. Actually mine is a little closer to the truth then yours

Of cause, if you always assume a critical strike then the +% from [[asuran scan] will beat anything, but that's simply not the case in the game.

I find it funny that you waited over a month before coming up with your own numbers to try and prove your side of the argument.

Also my numbers are not "wrong" they are optimistic there is a difference. Yes I didn't bookmark this topic and forgot that I posted in it So it took me a while to look into it again by accident. But that is completely irrelevant since I am still right, no matter how long it takes.

"Optimistic" is just plain wrong. Imaginary would be the right word. There is nothing even remotely realistic about your numbers.
For a real comparison you have to take average damage and not max damage. Average damage of a scythe 25. With high mastery the critical chance is only about 20%, which increases the average damage to about 30. That's nowhere near the 86 you claim. In fact the 86 is wrong, even if you could critical with every hit. Critical means max damage (which is 41) and 50% bonus damage, so you end up with about 60 for a critical and not 86.

Bottom line: Please stop inventing ridiculous numbers trying to prove your point. That's ridiculous.

Yes I didn't bookmark this topic and forgot that I posted in it So it took me a while to look into it again by accident. But that is completely irrelevant since I am still right, no matter how long it takes.

"Optimistic" is just plain wrong. Imaginary would be the right word. There is nothing even remotely realistic about your numbers.
For a real comparison you have to take average damage and not max damage. Average damage of a scythe 25. With high mastery the critical chance is only about 20%, which increases the average damage to about 30. That's nowhere near the 86 you claim. In fact the 86 is wrong, even if you could critical with every hit. Critical means max damage (which is 41) and 50% bonus damage, so you end up with about 60 for a critical and not 86.

Bottom line: Please stop inventing ridiculous numbers trying to prove your point. That's ridiculous. Damage Tests

Target Armor 60

Fiery Ornate Scythe
Fire Damage: 9-41
Damage: +15% (When health is above 50%)

When I used Conjure Flame my Fire Magic = 8 which is (+13 fire damage)
Asura Scan = 75% More Damage at rank 10 on the Asura Title Track
I am the Strongest! = +20 Damage at rank 10 on the Norn Title Track
Aura of Holy Might = 24% More damage at rank 4 on the Kurzick Title Track
Scythe Mastery = 14

Normal attack = [86] Critical
Normal attack + Conjure Fire = [99] Critical (86 + 13 = 99)
Normal attack + I am the Strongest = [106] Critical (86 + 20 = 106)
Normal attack + Aura of Holy Might = [130] Critical (86 + 44(52%) = 130)
Normal attack + Asura Scan = [150] Critical (86 + 64 = 150)

Normal attack + Conjure Fire + I am the Strongest = [119] Critical (86 + 13 + 20 = 119)
Normal attack + Conjure Fire + I am the Strongest + Asura Scan = [208] Critical (119 + 89{75%} = 208)

Normal attack + I am the Strongest + Aura of Holy Might = [150] Critical (86 + 20 + 44 = 150)

Normal attack + I am the Strongest + Aura of Holy Might + Asura Scan = [262] Critical (150 + 112{75%} = 262)

Sundering Damage Test

Here are the numbers I got with a Sundering Scythe
Slashing Damage: 9-41
Damage: +15% (When health is above 50%)

Normal attack = [105]
Normal attack + Conjure Fire = N/A
Normal attack + I am the Strongest = [125]
Normal attack + Aura of Holy Might = [160]
Normal attack + Asura Scan = [184]
Normal attack + I am the Strongest + Aura of Holy Might = [180]
Normal attack + I am the Strongest + Asura Scan = [186]
Normal attack + Aura of Holy Might + Asura Scan = [228]
Normal attack + I am the Strongest + Aura of Holy Might + Asura Scan = [315]

Highest amount of damage I did for a single attack

Radiant Scythe + I am the Strongest + Aura of Holy Might + Asura Scan = [397]

Go test for yourself those numbers are not fictitious.

Lol. You are funny
First, [[Conjure Flame] or any other conjure don't really do well with [[aura of holy might].
Second, as you have proven yourself by posting these numbers, your "test setup" is completely unrealistic and will about never happen in any even remotely real situation.
And still you assume criticals with every hit which isn't even remotely realistic. Hint: You can only bring 3 PvE skills, one of which has to be [[eternal aura] since we are talking about avatar builds here.

So yes, it's all fiction. Had you even bothered to look at my post you would notice that; Oh hey she never put Conjure flame and Aura of Holy Might together for the damage test. So your first great point is gone... great job. Don't bother joining a debate team definitely not your thing.

The point of my test was to show the highest possible damage and obviously unless you are a complete moron you can figure out on your own that you will not be getting a critical on every single attack, but that overall average attack damage will still be increased whether you get a critical attack or not.

As for your "hint" I was talking about a wounding strike build not an avatar build so again that wonderful "hint" of yours is full of stupid.

I thought normal monster AL was the same, you just don't do the same damage because of the increased difference in levels. Monsters have the normal armor plus something like 3 (I'm not 100% sure of the number, can anybody confirm this?) for every level above 20. Since lvl 26 to 28 foes are very common, armor levels are quite high in HM.
This of cause results in taking reduced damage because they a higher level. The important thing is that armor ignoring attacks will bypass it and deal full damage, no matter the enemy level (which is why armor ignoring stuff totally rocks in HM).

You did make this claim, you know.
Therefore his calculation proves you wrong. My claim was that an additional attack skill (as opposed to auto attacking most of the time) is more efficient then bringing [[Asuran Scan] due to the fact that the attack skill will hit 3 enemies if positioned right while [[Asuran Scan] will only work on the main target. On top of that the scan doesn't do much for auto attacks since they do almost no damage in HM and 80% more of almost nothing is still almost nothing.
His calculation has nothing whatsoever to do with this. All he did is invent strange magical numbers.
No, his calculations don't prove me wrong. They can't because I simply am right.

Don't disown what you have claimed. He proved you wrong, end of story. Should I point out too that you didn't mention HM armor? Furthermore, if you did have HM armor in mind, you would undoubtedly have pointed it out now ... Reading comprehension ftw?
Did you really not understand a single word of this argument?

His calculation didn't prove me wrong, in fact it did prove me right since the only way Asuran Scan can beat an additional attack skill in the initial build is assuming you only hit one enemy all the time and you do a critical all the time against an AL 60 target - which is just silly.
And I did mention HM armor multiple times now. The whole topic is about efficient builds and it is painfully obvious that efficient builds are generally not only used against puppets on the isle of the nameless