Alright before people flame and say find a differnt way to do it I have always strived to do things the fastest way possible whether using ursan or another mean to do it.
Ok so here goes the new way that is actually faster if done correctly then the older ursan ever was. What is need 2-3 monks and 5-6 ursan depending on how good your monks are. Ok so what kinda ursan are needed for this all powerful run.
Ok here goes the break down of the team i usually run with.
2 hb monks typical old ursan run build.
1 warrior or ele ursan that when coming out of ursan is considered the tank.
3-4 ursan that are / mesmer. the goal is for the 4-5 ursan to have arcane echo and cry of pain on the bar for when out of ursan.
1 ursan/me Dedicated hexor/no arcane echo/ but still uses cry of pain.
Done properly this has the capabilities of out damaging the old ursan in almost everyway possible.
Why this group fails with pugs- many pug monks don't realise that as soon as the war is out of ursan they have to seed him and he has to get his "tanking" skills up. The ursan cryers don't cry targets that are hexed -.-(biggest problem i have seen) Otherwise once a team has it and goes with it this has done a hm quad run in a little over an hour. Best time i think was 1 hour 13 minutes.
Its back. Doa Ursan runs :)
Missmelady
warrior running
I'll try it out with my leet guild if we succeed I come back and tell , if we fail I'll say what could improve
Slash From The Shadows
um......it doesn't look too bad, i think it might work, though i don't know how your tank is gonna tank without an elite skill ( earth magic enchants will get striped in seconds, and the warrior high health skils won't keep him alive for more then a few seconds).
though i like the main idea, i think it needs some improvment.
though i like the main idea, i think it needs some improvment.
Marverick
Spellbreaker + bonds on one of the monks would probably work.
ele pl
YES! Im not happy that Ursan is back, but this might be a way to revive Doa from dead!
Codin The Great
hmmm have to try it out to see how it works.
Squire Heats
Try with, 2HB monks then a monk with AP.
Rest of group all mes or sins with at least 10 in deadly with dmg, eg finish empathy if dom, or fragility if illusion, using arcane mimicry on the dedicated AP monk.
Set up a pug like this a while ago after the ursan nerf. Worked fine, with about 5 sec downtime average between ursans, and between them u did fair dmg with cry of pain finish him.
Cleared first city in same time as previous ursan groups.
Main prob is getting a group together, we eneded up with 2/5 ursan having low Lb and norn ranks R1 and R2, also the monk left halfway through 2nd area as they didnt think the build would work.
The AP monk isnt too bad either, with AP he can spam seed of life and in effect he can outmonk the other two monks.
Rest of group all mes or sins with at least 10 in deadly with dmg, eg finish empathy if dom, or fragility if illusion, using arcane mimicry on the dedicated AP monk.
Set up a pug like this a while ago after the ursan nerf. Worked fine, with about 5 sec downtime average between ursans, and between them u did fair dmg with cry of pain finish him.
Cleared first city in same time as previous ursan groups.
Main prob is getting a group together, we eneded up with 2/5 ursan having low Lb and norn ranks R1 and R2, also the monk left halfway through 2nd area as they didnt think the build would work.
The AP monk isnt too bad either, with AP he can spam seed of life and in effect he can outmonk the other two monks.
dreadscythe
ele cryers, with glyph of sacrifice for meteor shower might work well too. since when ever you go out of ursan, you have full energy and skills recharge except for the ursan skills.
DarkGanni
Oh God, why why. Hopeless ppl.
seventh ace
tam dont like it cuz "cry" is in there throw some save yourselves in and tam say yes
czfeng
whats the point of ursan here? if u have the capability of running tank+cryway jus run that through the whole run.
romeus petrus
killerbot3009
sounds good, but cryway is still going to be faster and everything. are have just taken 2 great runs and merged them to make a bit of a mess. no doubt it works, but cant be as fast as a perma tank + cryers. this could be of some use when they finally nerf cryway 
wouldnt mind trying the run out tbh, interesting to see what they new build going around are
pm me IG if u are forming a group up or something.
wouldnt mind trying the run out tbh, interesting to see what they new build going around are
pm me IG if u are forming a group up or something.
KiLLi4N
It's nothing new. Teams on US districts are doing whole DoA using ursans and it still works, although its much slower due to the need of recharge. About a week ago i tried the ursan/cry builds with my guildies in the Torc'qua city, and it was fast and easy. Using ursan or not is considered by many players to be the no1 problem here. If someone can complete DoA this way or using Ether Cryway, it's doesn't really matter for me. It's the result that counts. Personally, I'd like to check how roj + cry work in DoA.
jhaedin
Aiden_Madrigal
Oh Noes, Scar to the rescue!
(lighten up guys, seriously)
lawl
But on a more serious note, at the OP, if you're striving to run DoA the fastest way possible (assuming what you wrote in the first line of your post is true) then you should read a cryway guide and teach ur team. If somehow you find a faster way, then good for you: goal achieved.
This IS a game. I don't know why fallen got so worked up about it; let those who enjoy ursan use it if they so choose. You say you don't consider yourselves elitists, yet you call other players inferior a few words afterward. Make up ur mind.
I don't see this concept becoming the norm for DoA SC teams, but good try nonetheless. At least it was somewhat fresh.
(lighten up guys, seriously)
lawl
But on a more serious note, at the OP, if you're striving to run DoA the fastest way possible (assuming what you wrote in the first line of your post is true) then you should read a cryway guide and teach ur team. If somehow you find a faster way, then good for you: goal achieved.
This IS a game. I don't know why fallen got so worked up about it; let those who enjoy ursan use it if they so choose. You say you don't consider yourselves elitists, yet you call other players inferior a few words afterward. Make up ur mind.
I don't see this concept becoming the norm for DoA SC teams, but good try nonetheless. At least it was somewhat fresh.
Latham
Ursan died, Ursan got 'resurrected', I guess if you can't live without it you can create coy builds, But seriously though, if you want to make a Hybrid Cry/Ursan, Just use 1 tank instead and go full cry, way faster, no need to worry about retarded monks that can't cast a seed, nor bears who think they are invincible and storm ahead. Let it be, the skill is utter garbage now ......
MisterT69
Ursan=slow, boring, slightly retarded, and really uncoordinated. Kinda like Phil (he knows who he is :P)
Cryway=a well coordinated machine-like build that is more effective than anything out there because of precision spikes and huge numbers. Now why would you want to load up a Hummer H2(ursan) and go suicide in DoA when you can run a well-built Ferrari(cryway) and steamroll through the hardest area in Nightfall.
And if you think it's too hard, it really isn't. Just don't think you're getting 1hr30 on your first HM run. 2hr30+ is fine so everyone can just get the feel for it. We were always content with finishing at 2hr30 when we first started.
Also, don't think that <1hr is unachievable. ANYONE who is experienced in DoA and practices many times with cryway will easily have a chance of finishing in less than an hour.
Just my opinion: Do what you like best. Some leave UB and cryway altogether and go for the 600/smite and charge people $$$ to run it (just a thought).
BTW: whysosrs gaiz? Nobody's to blame for the revival of ursan. It just refuses to die lol
Cryway=a well coordinated machine-like build that is more effective than anything out there because of precision spikes and huge numbers. Now why would you want to load up a Hummer H2(ursan) and go suicide in DoA when you can run a well-built Ferrari(cryway) and steamroll through the hardest area in Nightfall.
And if you think it's too hard, it really isn't. Just don't think you're getting 1hr30 on your first HM run. 2hr30+ is fine so everyone can just get the feel for it. We were always content with finishing at 2hr30 when we first started.
Also, don't think that <1hr is unachievable. ANYONE who is experienced in DoA and practices many times with cryway will easily have a chance of finishing in less than an hour.
Just my opinion: Do what you like best. Some leave UB and cryway altogether and go for the 600/smite and charge people $$$ to run it (just a thought).
BTW: whysosrs gaiz? Nobody's to blame for the revival of ursan. It just refuses to die lol
??????
my god. .. calm down gaiz
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by seventh ace
tam dont like it cuz "cry" is in there throw some save yourselves in and tam say yes
You're pants-on-head retarded.
Icy The Mage
Wasn't alliance chat exploding because [icU] got a 47 min clear with ursan?
Dei Gracia
I coulda sworn I saw that as well.
Onyx Blindbow
Ursan, Cry... whats the difference?
Ursan = OP skill abused in all high end areas then nerfed
CoP = OP skill abused in all high end areas needs to be nerfed
I truly can't wait to see A-net remove AoE damage from CoP and watch the REAL crying begin
Ursan = OP skill abused in all high end areas then nerfed
CoP = OP skill abused in all high end areas needs to be nerfed
I truly can't wait to see A-net remove AoE damage from CoP and watch the REAL crying begin
Unreal Havoc
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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
Ursan, Cry... whats the difference?
Ursan = OP skill abused in all high end areas then nerfed
CoP = OP skill abused in all high end areas needs to be nerfed
I truly can't wait to see A-net remove AoE damage from CoP and watch the REAL crying begin
This /wins thread.
Ursan = OP skill abused in all high end areas then nerfed
CoP = OP skill abused in all high end areas needs to be nerfed
I truly can't wait to see A-net remove AoE damage from CoP and watch the REAL crying begin
This /wins thread.
Wubbies
let's break it down simplified
Ursan
+ Dr.Phil
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Lack Of Skill
/ Nubcake
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Title Hunter
x Get off Game.Find Job.
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F@*kChop
Ursan
+ Dr.Phil
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Lack Of Skill
/ Nubcake
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Title Hunter
x Get off Game.Find Job.
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F@*kChop
Quash
payne
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Originally Posted by seventh ace
tam dont like it cuz "cry" is in there throw some save yourselves in and tam say yes
thats because cry fails like mad
save yourselves tbh is liked by a minority of the guild...
ursan was always bad and adding CoP to it makes me die inside
<< yes i am in TAM and don't use cry OR SY
save yourselves tbh is liked by a minority of the guild...
ursan was always bad and adding CoP to it makes me die inside
<< yes i am in TAM and don't use cry OR SY
Stupid Shizno
whois tam? some pve guild??
who cares if they dont like ursan, ursan is strong like bearway
who cares if they dont like ursan, ursan is strong like bearway
furanshisuko
great build ! lolz gonna try that right away
/sarcasm
cant blame you for trying to rez old crap builds
btw who is jedi?? some gimmick guild??
/sarcasm
cant blame you for trying to rez old crap builds
btw who is jedi?? some gimmick guild??
byteme!
Amazing....Ursan topic gets posted and people have to chime in on how they are better and faster as if it is their duty. Heaven forbid anyone who tries to knock you off your pedestal.
viens87
wtf is Ursan ?
Onyx Blindbow
UnChosen
Kinda pointless, the ships had already sailed...When "the skill" that is used for the UWSC gets bombed into uselessness thanks to the constant whining that place will probably empty out as well. Most of the fun places that are worth repeating always have people using "skill" as an excuse to kick out the majority of players.
Rothan Celt
Must every single bloody thread turn into a guild drama? x)
They are entertaining but Jesus christ!
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They are entertaining but Jesus christ!
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So raging at people who are recreating ursan is pointless because quite simply Ursan is like every other team pve build now.
If you play it well
You win
Simplez!
Ursan only got nurfed because of the obvious lack of tactical thought that went into it. Seeing as GW has always been a 'tactical game' and proud of it that being one of its selling points, to me it certaintly was.
what im trying to say is lay off the op and stop with ze guild dramaz!
TalanRoarer
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Originally Posted by Rothan Celt
So raging at people who are recreating ursan is pointless because quite simply Ursan is like every other team pve build now.
You're kidding right?
UnChosen
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Originally Posted by BenC777
You're kidding right?
Its the truth. Thankfully we have other options like cryway so that we don't have to be a no life to finish DoA.