Zaishen keys is new currency

Lawliet Kira

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

E/Me

A while ago when the zaishen title came out, I made a thread that asked will zaishen keys be the new currency. Now it looks like it is taking over ectos to me. People all over high end, and spamadan now prefer keys over ectos, what do you guys think about this.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

People laughed at me when I said keys would be ectos, guess what happened.

Aussie Boy

Aussie Boy

Alcoholic

Join Date: Mar 2007

Australia

W/

They seam stable 4.5k to 5k and are very easy to get "Tournament predictions"
but then eccys also stay stable with lows n highs depending whats nerfed.
but I still prefer eccys for buying things if I don't have zkeys and there asking for them specifically well they lost a sale.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

cool i guess

Rabina Hood

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

USA

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Z keys would be nice and dandy if they would sell faster than spamming for hours. the only reason y most z key traders do with them is either to trade up for a high parcel or use it them selvs. they jsut climb the ladder untill the brave going to be gwamm finds them. hard to sell in general

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

idk, ectos and z-keys seem to be stable around the same area. currently ectos a very little bit lower. ectos are still used so much because z-keys are extremely new compared to ectos. hard habits die hard. not to mention, the temptation to use ur z-keys instead of saving them for trading is pretty hard to resist for some people. i think they will become/remain interchangeable with each other. it will just depend on the preference of the trader(s)

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

I have around 17 and was trying to sell for around 5k a piece, had a buyer but then he logged off O.o I guess ill keep trying to sell them at that price until they crash like ectos did and then ill just go spam the zChest

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

idc................


Oh and for doudou (yes, the names appropriate I think), it's called an opinion - it is so important as both are just pixels that have "NO" worth - although I wouldn't expect anyone to understand that can't spell "ever" and even do a string of 5 !!!!! correctly.



I ask for z keys on my high end sales only because that is what I have a need for (to use) - no other reason.

doudou_steve

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

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It really feels strange for me to say: "no, i won't change my keys that get you most of the time crappy stuff to your ectos that can help me to buy the FoW armor.

Joseph Rejekt

Joseph Rejekt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Absence Of Light

R/D

I beg to differ. While many do take Z Keys, Ectos are still the more dominant. Z Keys haven't replaced ectos but are accepted rather as an equal or near equal alternative. Then again, I practically live in LA and Spamadon anyway.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

I still prefer ectos... if I don't use them for trade I can always use them on more FoW armor.

If I had a bunch of zkeys... I COULD use them all on the zchest... but thats completely chance and I will LIKELY get nothing but crap.

Ecto is still the safer choice in my mind.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Ectos are still the dominant currency to be sure. Though keys do seem to be achieving a higher level of saturation. Most people will take either, and since they seem to be almost identical in value atm, who cares?

AKB48

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

Ectos = Zkeys

Zkeys: easy for pvp-focused players to obtain

Ectos: easy for pve-focused players/perma to obtain

Not THAT much different imo

Can't Stop The Hustle

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2009

right here

Evil

A/

zkeys ARE* the new currency? captain obvious reaching for anything to invoke discussion?

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKB48 View Post
Ectos = Zkeys

Zkeys: easy for pvp&pve-focused players to obtain

Ectos: easy for pve-focused players/perma to obtain

Not THAT much different imo
Just thought I'd add that since I'm sure a majority of PvE players get a portion of their income from Tourney Reward points and Z-keys.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyon456
I still prefer ectos... if I don't use them for trade I can always use them on more FoW armor.

If I had a bunch of zkeys... I COULD use them all on the zchest... but thats completely chance and I will LIKELY get nothing but crap.

Ecto is still the safer choice in my mind.
You forget that the majority of people opening the Z-chest open it for the emote and title, not what comes out of the chest. What comes out of the chest is just a bonus along with progressing the title.

subarucar

subarucar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

New Zealand

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125 View Post
Just thought I'd add that since I'm sure a majority of PvE players get a portion of their income from Tourney Reward points and Z-keys.
Actualy i seem to find that alot of PvE players dont even know what rp's/XTH are, let alone use them.
I would prefer Z-keys to ectos, as to get ecto's i would need to buy them as i dont farm much, Z-keys are easy to obtain for me as i do XTH and PvP alot. Thus i am happy Z-keys are being more commonly used alongside ectos as a second currency. Also if i sell my Z-keys i end up selling to one of those guys who buys for 4.8k, id rather save my time for enjoying the game/getting more fac for z-keys.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

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Congratulations on being correct, at least for this point in time.

I'm currently collecting a total of 500 between the two currencies. I'll farm for ectos, RP for Z-Keys, and use any Balth faction I get on keys. I'll be seeing just how easy it is to purchase high-end items between the two currencies.

At any rate, I think at the current time you'd be correct saying that Z-Keys are a viable form of currency, but not saying it's a replacement for Ectos.

Remember folks: People are more than aware that the lottery is a mathematically foolish investment and continue to invest in it regardless. I don't see Z-Keys going down anytime soon, especially considering that the title is incredibly high to max, meaning even the biggest Z-Key buyers/users will be in business for a while.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Obvious fact: We have now 2 strong currencies, both having very close values and both will almost certainly hold their values for a very long time.

But there's also a problem - a stupid annoyance that comes from having 2 currencies, something that haven't happened in the past - there are players who just refuse to accept one of those currencies.
For example: I missed a cheap mini Polar Bear because seller was accepting only ectos, I offered 300zkeys in place of missing 300ectos but it was sold to someone who had all ectos.

I feel that the number of players not accepting ectos is the same as players not accepting zkeys. Thankfully a large majority of traders accept both just fine.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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I'm still waiting for people to use the 6-8k currency called Black Dye as the third, no fourth, form a currency. Armbraces made second and zkeys are third. Armbraces are just more rare so less used.

Latham

Latham

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

[DL]

Mo/

I thought currency was a shiny gold piece. Guess i could be wrong though.

The majority of people in High End, only ask for Z Keys so they can increase there emote/title. So who cares what your, currency, is, Z Key = Ecto = 5k'ish. Rejoice the matter is solved.

Yarly

Yarly

Retired GW Player

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

Mo/

Ectos are still the main trade commodity. Zkeys are increasing in popularity but time will tell if they ever take over the ecto. Me thinks not.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabina Hood View Post
Z keys would be nice and dandy if they would sell faster than spamming for hours. the only reason y most z key traders do with them is either to trade up for a high parcel or use it them selvs. they jsut climb the ladder untill the brave going to be gwamm finds them. hard to sell in general
i've never had a problem selling any number of zkeys within a few minutes. you're doing something wrong if you have to spam for hours.

gunot

gunot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Guildless

W/Mo

i say zkey value will drop when they repeat the tonics

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz View Post
i've never had a problem selling any number of zkeys within a few minutes. you're doing something wrong if you have to spam for hours.
I take it you sell for less than 5k then?

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

How is this thread-worthy?
More people prefer ectos over ZKeys, but there are a few that like ZKeys more.

People got all excited when LPs came out and expect it to be the new currency (I think there was a thread on that too) and I have since encountered one person who used LPs.

The only interesting point is when some people refuse to take ZKeys and not ectos or ectos and not ZKeys.

My theory is that whatever item is closer to 5K will be the "new currency" due to easy math calculations.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Z-keys currency? Did ANet nerf all gold out of GW?

(For the smarties: Paying more than 100k for an item is rediculous anyways)

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

With the price of Z-Keys being determined by the player it just depends on the current value of ectos as to which will be the dominant currency in the long term.