I kinda like that most people in the game lack personal taste. It's fun to stand out among everyone in either FoW or PvP skins with something that's actually stylish and original.
People in AB asked what armor my mesmer is wearing several times and it's... 1.5k sunspear, dyed black. Odd how nobody knows what basic skins look like.
I only have one set of FoW, female necro, because I like how it looks, and as far as expensive weapons go, I don't think I have any that are really high-end. Unless eternal bow/amethyst aegis counts. Neither is over 100k, so I don't think you'd label them as "desirable". I do have a crystalline, but I realize the thing is about as ugly as a wammo in a ninja mask, so I pull it out only to flex my e-peen. :P
Normally I prefer a longsword or a runic blade.
6 million people and only several desirable weapon skins.
Alleji
Rhamia Darigaz
lol this game in it objective one is to have the good looks. this game it is not WoW. in wow objective one is to have the powerful gear. but guild wars, even the n00bs can be getting maximum armor! this is fundamental flaw with gild wars is my opinion. since only having get the max armor make look like all the other n00bs in game, players who are not n00bs must be having good looks for to let everyone know who is alpha male. example is, fiery dragon sword. all noobs must get this skin because it is having big firey looks, they say in their brain "this sword, if i am having it people will be thinking, i am rich high class person and, skills at playing gild wars" because this happens, so many n00b has firey dragon sword. but the true skills player, he says in his brain "i see this obsidian edge sword, and it is being very good looks. it is very rare also. so if i am having one people will know who is alpha male - they know that this alpha male is me. but it is different from the firey dragon sword weapon because it is costing very much ectos. but because i am skills at playing gild wars i have in my xunlai box very much ectos for to buy these things."
and that is why 6 million ppl and only several desissireable weapon skins.
and that is why 6 million ppl and only several desissireable weapon skins.
Lycan Nibbler
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we all need to go back to Sorrows furnace greens as prestige weps
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nothing better than a bow bigger than the char Although I have the cash, I rarely get what is most expensive.. I go with what I like - not just follow the "this is the rarest therefore the best....
HawkofStorms
Expensive =/= Nice looking
You listed epeen items, not desirable items. There are a lot of nice looking weapon skins that nobody wants.
The only weapons that really have been shafted are spears and scythes, which really don't have that many variations (because they have been in fewer games, so therefore there are just fewer skins).
You listed epeen items, not desirable items. There are a lot of nice looking weapon skins that nobody wants.
The only weapons that really have been shafted are spears and scythes, which really don't have that many variations (because they have been in fewer games, so therefore there are just fewer skins).
lord of all tyria
The subjective attitude of the OP must be taken into account and an update created, this is a serious issue!
Stupid Shizno
mursaat hammer tyrian skin
thats hott
the OP just cares about what makes his epeen bigger, not what looks nice. he needs to just get chaos gloves on black fow armor
thats hott
the OP just cares about what makes his epeen bigger, not what looks nice. he needs to just get chaos gloves on black fow armor
Jecht Scye
Most of the Skins the OP posted I don't even like...
I like simple skins such as:
Hand Axe
Villnar's Glove(Green Curses Offhand, labeled Grim Cesta as a normal item)
Holy Staff
Hand of the Forgotten(Grim Scythe)
Deldrimor Scythe
Sai
Golden Talons
Air Staff(Canthan Skin)
I like simple skins such as:
Hand Axe
Villnar's Glove(Green Curses Offhand, labeled Grim Cesta as a normal item)
Holy Staff
Hand of the Forgotten(Grim Scythe)
Deldrimor Scythe
Sai
Golden Talons
Air Staff(Canthan Skin)
Fril Estelin
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I think the OP was talking about high "value" skins (ones that go for 100k+). This is not a subjective thing - it's easy enough to see what skins go for a lot of money.
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As can be seen from above posts, a certain number of people don't like these expensive skins and prefer a lot of others, not so expensive ones. They fetch a high price due to 1) how "rare" they are, which has nothing to do with their "value" in the intrinsic sense; 2) how much money people who want "rare stuff" are willing to pay (the silliest part of the equation); 3) the hype created ty talking about them and creating a urban myth ("I hear BDS is good").
R.Shayne
Part of me would like to see another Design-A-Weapon contest, but a bigger part of me wants them to work on features (not more skins), and all of me doesn't giving a flying **** about GW2.
I wanted a Clockwork Scythe so I farmed Rragar dungeon and I got a Req. 9 Dryad bow and after equipping on my ranger I still can't figure out what all the big deal is about - to me it is decent looking but not drop dead gorgeous. I now farm Oola's dungeon.
I wanted a Clockwork Scythe so I farmed Rragar dungeon and I got a Req. 9 Dryad bow and after equipping on my ranger I still can't figure out what all the big deal is about - to me it is decent looking but not drop dead gorgeous. I now farm Oola's dungeon.
Coverticus
Not disagreeing with the OP but..
Couldn't agree more with most opinions here - items are worth what people are prepared to pay for, based upon it rareness/looks. But the majority of GW players I would say aren't really that fussed with having to wield a set of Voltaic Spear/Tormented Shield, then switch to Eternal Blade/Celestial Shield.... spamming them in team chat to say "look how small my **** is". And armour sets, meh, who cares that a player is wearing a set of FoW armour. Everyone has their own tastes, it doesn't need to be thrust in the faces of 7 other people.
And man, oh for some new content. Designer weapons, armour sets, areas - whatever, would be nice to have something a little different to tide us over with until GW2 in 2032... we are getting increased storage space though, so praise be (/sarcasm).
It is a game - just because someone comes pimped out in Daddy's best Credit Card-obtained kit doesn't make them a better player, usually quite the opposite (note "usually", there are exceptions). Given a choice between a player with starter-ish armour/weps or a pimped out showboater, the starter will win for me anyday.
Couldn't agree more with most opinions here - items are worth what people are prepared to pay for, based upon it rareness/looks. But the majority of GW players I would say aren't really that fussed with having to wield a set of Voltaic Spear/Tormented Shield, then switch to Eternal Blade/Celestial Shield.... spamming them in team chat to say "look how small my **** is". And armour sets, meh, who cares that a player is wearing a set of FoW armour. Everyone has their own tastes, it doesn't need to be thrust in the faces of 7 other people.
And man, oh for some new content. Designer weapons, armour sets, areas - whatever, would be nice to have something a little different to tide us over with until GW2 in 2032... we are getting increased storage space though, so praise be (/sarcasm).
It is a game - just because someone comes pimped out in Daddy's best Credit Card-obtained kit doesn't make them a better player, usually quite the opposite (note "usually", there are exceptions). Given a choice between a player with starter-ish armour/weps or a pimped out showboater, the starter will win for me anyday.
IlikeGW
Skins get boring no matter what. The only way somewhat around it is make the game moddable which wouldn't happen I think because of the closed system of their online network, or the other thing which is to make customizable weapons and armor.
Now I think customizable weapons and armor would be a blast, and when you think about it it's almost a shame they did that for character body and cape, the 2 things you actually see or care about the least, and not for armor and items, the things you see the most. I'd honestly prefer in GW2 you just have a generic head but could get the craziest items as you create their total appearance. City of Heroes/Villians seems to show that yes these games could allow for a ton of user creativity if the dev programs them the right way.
Now I think customizable weapons and armor would be a blast, and when you think about it it's almost a shame they did that for character body and cape, the 2 things you actually see or care about the least, and not for armor and items, the things you see the most. I'd honestly prefer in GW2 you just have a generic head but could get the craziest items as you create their total appearance. City of Heroes/Villians seems to show that yes these games could allow for a ton of user creativity if the dev programs them the right way.
englitdaudelin
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we all need to go back to Sorrows furnace greens as prestige weps
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Anyway, while desirable weps (which uh...are arguable...) are indeed out there and rare...
...you don't need 'em. They give you something to work for. Keep ya playing the game and opening the z-chest and crawling through dungeons.
I had my account for over a year before I had enough money for a purple storm bow for my ranger.
Another six months before I could buy a Req 10 gold one (Which I still have, and use...)
Then I learned about farming. And learned that I hated painfully repetitive actions.
So, me and the Undead Flatbow from the BMP, my req 10 storm bow, my Green Icebreaker, my old, old, old Rotwing, my Flamberges and Totem Axes, Round Shields well modded and Bone Staff after Bone Staff...we say hi.
I'm a little saddened about the design-a-weapon contest winners-- they're lovely to look at, and painfully hard to obtain. Next time, I vote to see those drop from any old locked chest in HM, in any region. Paying mad lewt for sticks and snakes and skeletons... bummer.
Anyway, I think there are some cheap skins that look at least as good as the "rare" or desirable ones that the OP suggested:
I'm a fan of...
Undead bows from BMP
Flamberge
Vertebreaker
The Mindclouder
The Fuschia Staff
The Rotwing bow
Halo and Dragoncrest axes
Gothic and Gothic Dual axes
the IDS
Wyvern Blade
Igneous Blade
Oaken Aegis
Bramble Bows.
Just nice-looking, generally interesting skins. Undead stuff from the BMP in general, I think, is quite good-looking, if you favor the dark weapons, and Tengu weps are gorgeous and delicate.
byteme!
WHAT DOES HAVING ANY WEAPON WORTH 100k+ HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DESIRABILITY?!!!!
People who are after the expensive items in-game don't really care what it looks like. People who are after good looking items (subjective) don't care how much it's worth.
SO WHAT THE HELL IS THE OP TALKING ABOUT?!
People who are after the expensive items in-game don't really care what it looks like. People who are after good looking items (subjective) don't care how much it's worth.
SO WHAT THE HELL IS THE OP TALKING ABOUT?!
Simath
Besides the fact that this topic is completely opinionated, as weapons became more available they became less desirable. Think back on the SF and ToPK skins. They used to be in huge demand, but then as the game got older and these items were more easily obtain they naturally fell into the back drop. As newer skins were released they were forgotten even more. How many players do you see wanting a Victo's Blade these days? From what I've seen not many.
Yes, new skins would be nice. Is it going to happen? No.
Yes, new skins would be nice. Is it going to happen? No.
Some_guy
Meh, I've been happy with my Tengu Shield and Green Endgame Spear ( One from Nightfall, can't remember which one) on my Paragon for a long time. I have also been happy with my 1.5k Luxon armor on my necromancer with a Mursaat staff for a long time as well (although that 1.5k was a bit more than 1.5k).
I could continue with what all of my characters use, only to make everyone realize that people have individual tastes, but that won't change anyones mind, so why am I even posting?
I could continue with what all of my characters use, only to make everyone realize that people have individual tastes, but that won't change anyones mind, so why am I even posting?
GhostKairi
If people hate that theres not enough Skins in the game why dont they download Texmod and make there fking own... It aint that hard ya know...
immortius
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If people hate that theres not enough Skins in the game why dont they download Texmod and make there fking own... It aint that hard ya know...
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Nightow
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If people hate that theres not enough Skins in the game why dont they download Texmod and make there fking own... It aint that hard ya know...
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AceeBlueEagle
I like the challenge of obtaining the skins myself. I've been playing since July2005 and I need challenges like that. Been doing runs for Silverwings lately. Been fun and finally got one. Now it's time for the Rragars one.
Challenge is good!
Challenge is good!
Elder III
Personal Taste ought to rule your purchases or acquisitions in GW (perhaps in RL too!).... please don't blame Anet for the amount or lack of "rare" skins in game....
it's all just epeen anyways, which is really no more cool than a prepubescent temper tantrum is.
it's all just epeen anyways, which is really no more cool than a prepubescent temper tantrum is.
A11Eur0
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Swamp Club. (Not really the skin though)
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Mursaat hammer
Wingcrest Maul
Tetsubo Hammer
My personal favorites are:
Torm
Desolation maul
spiky War Hammer
But I do agree they need more weapon skins, or figure out a way to make other skins more desireable to mid-grade players, because it's hard as hell to find buyers for really nice mid-level items like Guardian of the Hunt, Runic blades, Fellblades, Gloom shields...stuff that went for boatloads of cash back in the day are unwanted. There are two types of players: ones that can afford the big stuff so don't buy the little stuff, and ones who can't afford the big stuff and don't want to pay for the medium stuff when they can pay 1k for a common skin and get along fine.
People need to research different skins rather than just wanting the top shelf items every time. I have, besides tormented, only one weapon on my warrior that was considered "top shelf" in the past year or so...a draconic aegis. Everything else was big way back in the day but dropped out of popularity, but still looks good and is really "rare" when you think about it...most people are running common junk or the top shelf items, so it's not very impressive to have them anyway. Just another follower, I say when I see a BDS or Frog Scepter. Show me a nice armor combo that isn't overdone along with some nice weapons that match and work well together, and I'm impressed.
MisterT69
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Not disagreeing with the OP but..
Couldn't agree more with most opinions here - items are worth what people are prepared to pay for, based upon it rareness/looks. But the majority of GW players I would say aren't really that fussed with having to wield a set of Voltaic Spear/Tormented Shield, then switch to Eternal Blade/Celestial Shield.... spamming them in team chat to say "look how small my **** is". And armour sets, meh, who cares that a player is wearing a set of FoW armour. Everyone has their own tastes, it doesn't need to be thrust in the faces of 7 other people. And man, oh for some new content. Designer weapons, armour sets, areas - whatever, would be nice to have something a little different to tide us over with until GW2 in 2032... we are getting increased storage space though, so praise be (/sarcasm). It is a game - just because someone comes pimped out in Daddy's best Credit Card-obtained kit doesn't make them a better player, usually quite the opposite (note "usually", there are exceptions). Given a choice between a player with starter-ish armour/weps or a pimped out showboater, the starter will win for me anyday. |
As for the weapon skins, not everything 100k+XXXe is amazing. Same thing w/minipets. They're 1/10 of your body height and have no benefit whatsoever to the game except for Epeen. I mean, a max insightful bo staff of enchanting has the exact same benefits as a max insightful BDS of enchanting.
So if A-net wants to make these ub3r rare weapons worth their value, give them a benefit that would make you want to pay XXe for. Maybe give them innate mods like 40% enchanting or something, but that's turning the game into WoW. But unlike WoW, max weapon 1 has no special benefit to max weapon 2, yet max weapon 1 costs +100e more which is absurd. And yet the only reason this keeps this going is the demand.
immortius
I'ld say part of the problem is the lack of an auction house/global trade system. Except for the really rare and desirable skins, it is practically impossible to find the people who desire skin X, so you have to drop the price and sell to people who don't care about the skin instead.
Crom The Pale
Its been said more than once but I will say it again.
It is all subjective.
Personally I love my Tribal Axe, my Fellblade and Icy Dragon Sword. The Tall Shield is still one of my favourite skins, though I wish it came in Strength as well as Tactics.
While I was one of the many people that got suckered into purchasing some high end items just because others placed a high value on them I learned from my mistakes.
Keep in mind that just because an item is rare and/or valueble doesn't mean people really love how it looks. A great number of people just want to have one of every item in the game so they will pay what ever it takes to aquire what they can't farm.
It is all subjective.
Personally I love my Tribal Axe, my Fellblade and Icy Dragon Sword. The Tall Shield is still one of my favourite skins, though I wish it came in Strength as well as Tactics.
While I was one of the many people that got suckered into purchasing some high end items just because others placed a high value on them I learned from my mistakes.
Keep in mind that just because an item is rare and/or valueble doesn't mean people really love how it looks. A great number of people just want to have one of every item in the game so they will pay what ever it takes to aquire what they can't farm.
SirSausage
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Mustache Mayhem
I use skins I like also.. I don't fall for the slippy prices either.. but as a oldschool farmer I just replace them as I get the same skin with lower req sell the rest 
here's a good shot of the tetsubo I farmed quite awhile back (probably 2 years ago)
the hammer is huge compared to alot of other skins.. the pirana has got to be one of my favorite though- cause in the arenas you can own a bucktooth with a fish and ask him how he likes his fish for roid rages.. the elemental sword looks awesome too as a +5 energy for sf sin
there's alot of skins out there that look awesome and don't sell!
the hammer is huge compared to alot of other skins.. the pirana has got to be one of my favorite though- cause in the arenas you can own a bucktooth with a fish and ask him how he likes his fish for roid rages.. the elemental sword looks awesome too as a +5 energy for sf sin
there's alot of skins out there that look awesome and don't sell!
shoyon456
its supply and demand...
Many of the most valuable skins aren't easy to acquire. For instance, most of the design-a-weapon skins were put in end dungeon chests with low droprates. And eternals/obsidian edges are in uw/fow end chests respectively, with an even lower droprate from the zchest.
Another thing to consider is that when a person truly loves their character of a certain class, they tend to buy the most expensive weps for that char, sparing no expense.
And finally... alot of the skins anet comes up with aren't really that "inspired." Id say the best skins actually come from player contest designs. But when you think about it, it really is stupid to go around buying tons and tons of rare skins that are no different than what you could get at a colletor/crafter other than personal appeal. Especially when every time you buy a wep you get closer to filling your limited inv.
Many of the most valuable skins aren't easy to acquire. For instance, most of the design-a-weapon skins were put in end dungeon chests with low droprates. And eternals/obsidian edges are in uw/fow end chests respectively, with an even lower droprate from the zchest.
Another thing to consider is that when a person truly loves their character of a certain class, they tend to buy the most expensive weps for that char, sparing no expense.
And finally... alot of the skins anet comes up with aren't really that "inspired." Id say the best skins actually come from player contest designs. But when you think about it, it really is stupid to go around buying tons and tons of rare skins that are no different than what you could get at a colletor/crafter other than personal appeal. Especially when every time you buy a wep you get closer to filling your limited inv.
Faer
Thread title should be "I can't count and want more stuff".
Fril Estelin
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Thread title should be "I can't count and want more stuff".
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Abedeus
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You mean "I can count and know perfectly well how to present my point so that you say what I want you to say"? The "6" in the title should clearly be a 5.5
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Fril Estelin
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And either that 5.5 to "about a million, most of which don't play anymore" or "million people" to "sold copies of all games".
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" Abedeus, hence the "".
Skyy High
Expensive != good looking, and vice versa. Black dye is the most expensive dye because it's the rarest, even though it makes many armors look absolutely horrible. Bandannas, blindfolds, masks, etc, are not the prettiest headpieces and they don't go with all armors, but people wear them because they're expensive. Same with chaos gloves.
The point is, you can't judge the quality of weapon skins based on prices. A zodiac bow still looks as cool now as it did when it came out 3 years ago, there are just more of them now (and some available in inscribable versions). It's still a great looking bow. The same goes for many, many, many other skins that have fallen by the wayside, and many others that have never enjoyed a significant popularity in the first place. Hell, your list doesn't even include many GW:EN skins, which are only "undesirable" because people see them so seldomly. As soon as one becomes a fad, like the (relatively easily farmed) Bone Dragon Staff, b00m, price hits the ceiling.
So basically, ragging on ANet for not introducing enough cool skins to satisfy players, the same players who are content, even proud, to stand in Kamadan dist 1 wearing the same black fow + chaos gloves + bandanna as everyone else, is idiotic. There will always be a select few most expensive weapons, just based on which are the rarest.
The point is, you can't judge the quality of weapon skins based on prices. A zodiac bow still looks as cool now as it did when it came out 3 years ago, there are just more of them now (and some available in inscribable versions). It's still a great looking bow. The same goes for many, many, many other skins that have fallen by the wayside, and many others that have never enjoyed a significant popularity in the first place. Hell, your list doesn't even include many GW:EN skins, which are only "undesirable" because people see them so seldomly. As soon as one becomes a fad, like the (relatively easily farmed) Bone Dragon Staff, b00m, price hits the ceiling.
So basically, ragging on ANet for not introducing enough cool skins to satisfy players, the same players who are content, even proud, to stand in Kamadan dist 1 wearing the same black fow + chaos gloves + bandanna as everyone else, is idiotic. There will always be a select few most expensive weapons, just based on which are the rarest.
Daesu
Many of the expensive skins that the OP named are just "meh" and some of them are even ugly.
And it is not just the fact that they dont give any additional advantage over another max damage weapon skin, they are usually a disadvantage! Why? Because 99.9% of the time, people who have these rare skins do not dare to customize them, so they are 20% less damaging!
Personally, I prefer the skins from the BMP and they always come customized!
And it is not just the fact that they dont give any additional advantage over another max damage weapon skin, they are usually a disadvantage! Why? Because 99.9% of the time, people who have these rare skins do not dare to customize them, so they are 20% less damaging!
Personally, I prefer the skins from the BMP and they always come customized!
Divinity Sword
Crystaline is ewwie.
I like the original longbow!
Also love the forgotten recurve bow, sucks that it has only a crip mod though.
Hm lets see, I like Victos maul.
So eh yeah, all that should cost me somewhere around 20k rofl.
I like the original longbow!
Also love the forgotten recurve bow, sucks that it has only a crip mod though.
Hm lets see, I like Victos maul.
So eh yeah, all that should cost me somewhere around 20k rofl.
daraaksii
Hammer - Tetsubo.
Vl Vl D
Sorry if its been said but why not just mod some skins, or do you want people to see what you see. Just think of a Heavy Pork Sword of Enchanting.
subarucar
I find it strange how people can find some of the expensive/rare skins desirable. Personally i like alot of the lower end skins. I also dont understand what the point is with having Q7/8 weapons, when you have far more than that amount of points in an attribute, the only time where it actualy tents to come in usefull are on tact shields.
Nightow
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I find it strange how people can find some of the expensive/rare skins desirable. Personally i like alot of the lower end skins. I also dont understand what the point is with having Q7/8 weapons, when you have far more than that amount of points in an attribute, the only time where it actualy tents to come in usefull are on tact shields.
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cthulhu reborn
Maybe the problem simply is that some people are getting to the point where they pretty much have everything they want, so there's nothing much left to really go for. As a lot of people already indicated in one way or another, there's no accounting for taste, but a lot of people seem to be motivated to like something because it is expensive rather than whether they really like it or not for what it is. Human nature, nothing you can do.
Let's just say, the game has it's limits and more and more people are reaching them.
Let's just say, the game has it's limits and more and more people are reaching them.
skinnydarn
it's all down to personel preference tbh...
best skinned sword is gladius i think!!! ;]
best skinned sword is gladius i think!!! ;]