PVE A/W Builds?

why would you want to play your assassin with all possible weapons? if you want a Sword/Axe wielder why not play a Warrior? no other profession is as good with these weapons as a Warrior Imho.
well, Crit Barrager, Crit Scyther, Crit Spear Thrower, WE Scyther, Thumper(Hammer Ranger), Spear Ranger, Dagger Ranger, etc are all *good* builds that include an off profession weapon. they have their advantages and disadvantages over using the weapon's primary profession instead. note how most of these weapons(all but Hammers to be exact) are Factions/Nightfall weapons? the Warrior class is just too established with its own weapons and is the most efficient with them. hence you dont see any serious Sword/Axe wielding non Warrior.
P.S caster weapons(+5/20% or +5/+30) excluded for obvious reasons... Pssst. This is for PvE. In PvE, you can't change your primary profession.

If a player has an Assassin as his main, and is working on a Vanquisher or Guardian title, it makes very little sense to suggest to him that if he wants to play with an axe, he roll a Warrior.

I just got done vanquishing Prophecies with my Sin, and I used a variety of builds. For Eastern Frontier, with all of the Grawl healers, I found that the most effective thing for me to do was to run an Earthshaker Sin. It worked beautifully. And never once did I hear a Grawl yell with its dying breath "Yeah but it would have been slightly more effective on a Warrior!".

I also ran a MoP Nuker Sin through much of hex-heavy HM Kryta. Would a Necro have run it slightly more effectively? You bet. But what matters is that a MoP Sin can run at least well enough to Vanquish the area. And in practice, it sliced through areas like Twin Serpent Lakes and Stingray Strand.

I agree that with axes and swords, their lower max damages make them less attractive when compared to a good dagger build. But hammers, with their high max (and crit) damage and KD potential, are very well utilized on an Assassin. That said, there's really no problem running an axe/sword Sin, as long as it's getting the job done, and squeezing out all the damage potential it can.

An A/W build without [Save Yourselves!] is a fail build IMO. Very narrow minded! Just cos you got /w don't mean you have to now become an SY bot...

Those are some cool builds up there, nice damage I'm guessing with all the crits, and they must be fun with the perma 33% and 20 odd armor...

Gonna try em out...

Very narrow minded! Just cos you got /w don't mean you have to now become an SY bot... And just because you have SY doesn't mean you have to be an SY bot. Even if was up just half the time I'd run it.

(correct me if I'm wrong on that one but I believe DB AoE damage isn't counted as attacks) DB's AoE damage is armour ignoring. doesn't matter if its counted as an attack. its just like splinter weapon.

@anwyn, if you have a warrior primary/secondary, its recommended to bring SY. it can save your party from dying.

i personally am a SY bot. i have a hero who summons [infuriating heat] to help me spam SY on my assassin. and i must say, it has served me well.

every build has their own aspect. there must be a reason for you to choose a/e. everyone has their reason for choosing their secondary profession ( unless you don't need it )

he was just being straightfoward. why beat around the bush when you can get straight to the point ?

PS: I just read your latest post. WTF? If you claim to be "too good" for SY! ouch, that hurts so bad, he called me noob... *cries*

dude, read it again, cos clearly you cannot read... I never said I was too good for it, in fact I even said I use it alot... I'm just saying it's not the be all and end all of /W...

And no, you cannot play P/E imbagon, it's just not possible without hacking, imbagon is a build that requires /W.

Anyway, I'm not gonna argue with you, I will agree to dissagree. As I said, my point is really just that SY is not thebe all and end all of /W, before PVE skill we did just fine!

That was long time ago nobody cares, no point going /W and not having SY! Some people still do, and this is what I call narrow minded...

But as I said, I agree to dissagree...

P.S. Paragons are only good as imbagons and mesmers are only good for CoP

OK...

So, we've shown that the only use a warrior or /w has in PVE GW is SY, if you not runing it, then you're a noob and yourbuild fails... am I right? As opposed to you being a unique little snow flake who's fragile bohemian mind is blown by the concept of a staple skill being staple for a reason...

As opposed to you being a unique little snow flake who's fragile bohemian mind is blown by the concept of a staple skill being staple for a reason... Nice, you've flamed me again for absolutely no reason other than the fact that I am challenging your opinion with mine...

Fun for some, not really for others. This statement sums it up pretty nicely... In the end it's what you enjoy that counts...Funny enough, I enjoy SY on 90% of my /W bars, my only arguement was that it isn't a have to have and you can get through missions and quests without it...

Not really, I don't die any more/less with either SY or none... Play more HM, be more offensive.

SY spam is epic, denying it's effect on efficiency in-game is fantasy.