Can Duncan The Black be killed?
T RAND
I'm in Slavers' Exile. I have The Last Hierophant quest. The fifth part of the quest is to destroy Duncan the Black. Duncan the Black has an army of spirits around him. The henchmen are programmed to attack the spirits. They won't attack Duncan. Duncan replaces the spirits just as quickly as the spirits are killed. I tried pulling Duncan many times. He doesn't move. Before I leave, is there something I'm missing in this area that will help to kill Duncan?
warrior running
Bring heroes and ppl or call Duncan as it target
dr love
i've only heard of it being done with players. one person goes and DIES beside duncan so you can use the necro Signet of Sorrow to kill him. but before u do that, another person uses the sin skill SWAP, to swap out as many spirits as you want to a location where they wont bother you. once you get the spirits out of the way, the necro can just signet him to death while being healed.
Yang Whirlwind
Like it has been said, you need to move (not kill) the spirits with Swap.
When they are at locations where they cannot interfere, you go in to kill Duncan himself.
Degen skills like: Suffering, Rotting Flesh, Conjure Nightmare, Shrinking Armor and Summoning PvE skills like Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support combined with protection skills on the characters who have to go close to him, is the way to go.
As always Wiki is good. Don't forget to check the Discussion page for each Dungeon/Quest/Mission (found above the head line) - there's usually good tips to be found there.
When they are at locations where they cannot interfere, you go in to kill Duncan himself.
Degen skills like: Suffering, Rotting Flesh, Conjure Nightmare, Shrinking Armor and Summoning PvE skills like Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support combined with protection skills on the characters who have to go close to him, is the way to go.
As always Wiki is good. Don't forget to check the Discussion page for each Dungeon/Quest/Mission (found above the head line) - there's usually good tips to be found there.
Tharg
to use signet of sorrow, can you just bring heroes and henchies - flag one hero next to Duncan and let him/her die?
Fragile Feeling
The problem with that is the henchies would automatically use their rez on the downed hero. Unless you flagged henchies far back, and used one hero to heal the one that was up beside him. It could work I suppose
kupp
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Originally Posted by dbulger
i've only heard of it being done with players. one person goes and DIES beside duncan so you can use the necro Signet of Sorrow to kill him. but before u do that, another person uses the sin skill SWAP, to swap out as many spirits as you want to a location where they wont bother you. once you get the spirits out of the way, the necro can just signet him to death while being healed.
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The trick was flagging him in the spot where spirits can hit him, I went next to Duncan to get myself killed and for the whole time I was microing him to cast [spoil victor][signet of sorrow] and [life siphon] for an added kick. The backfire from his monster spell triggered SV on every SoS hit.
Meanwhile, Talkhora was keeping PS on him the whole time, and Gwen had [unnatural signet] with her every other skilled disabled so she could spam it endlessly, dealing with the spirits in front of the stairs easily. The whole party was flagged a little in the back to avoid Duncan's hit. As for henchies, I took Eve, Cynn and the 2 monks.
It wasn't that slow, maybe 10 minutes? 15, maximum don't recall exactly.
And lucky, found a screenshot I took to celebrate the event
Teutonic Paladin
I used the above mentioned strategy to beat Slavers' with H/H.
-Cancel all the res skills
-Kill someone next to him
-Force cast Prot Spirit on your Necromancer
-Flag him somewhere that he can cast on Duncan but not be hit by spirits
-Micro Prot Spirit for 20 minutes
-Win
-Cancel all the res skills
-Kill someone next to him
-Force cast Prot Spirit on your Necromancer
-Flag him somewhere that he can cast on Duncan but not be hit by spirits
-Micro Prot Spirit for 20 minutes
-Win
Raku Clayman
The SoS method is the fastest method. Make sure you kill all the touchers.
The way it was done in the beginning, before nobody figured it out, was to just ignore the spirits and everyone rush to Duncan and collectively kill him. Or, you could still swap out the spirits first. They are annoying. You still have to kill the touchers first. The ones on the side of the stage and in behind Duncan.
BTW, facing the stage, you do not need to move the spirits to the left of Duncan. You only need to swap out the ones on the right.
The way it was done in the beginning, before nobody figured it out, was to just ignore the spirits and everyone rush to Duncan and collectively kill him. Or, you could still swap out the spirits first. They are annoying. You still have to kill the touchers first. The ones on the side of the stage and in behind Duncan.
BTW, facing the stage, you do not need to move the spirits to the left of Duncan. You only need to swap out the ones on the right.
legacyofkain85
all skills that u really want to bring for duncan are:[swap],[spoil victor],[signet of sorrow],[protective spirit].
T RAND
Y'all are telling me to use skills that I don't have. So it looks like there's no possible way for me to kill Duncan.
kupp
If you don't have the skills though, get them. Or you don't have Factions or NF? In any case, if you can find some way to deal with the spirits, with some smart flaging and plenty of patience I suppose you can kill him in a normal fashion. Swap would be great for that though, the constant spirits respawn makes killing them useless.
ac1inferno
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Originally Posted by guildwiki
hints for defeating duncan the black
- now that duncan's defense deals back damage even from such skills as [[pain inverter], [[backfire], [[mistrust], [[guilt], and [[empathy], it is no longer advisable to attack him in this manner. (in the past, these skills were not affected by duncan's defense, and were therefore very effective.) - all forms of health degeneration can help with getting duncan's health down. He has no defense against [[life transfer], [[life siphon], burning, etc. - a player with [[swap], [[gaze of fury], or [[unnatural signet] can move his spirits to a much more manageable position or destroy them as necessary. Spirits of [[recuperation] and [[disenchantment] should be considered primary targets, but as long as one is swapping spirits, one may as well swap all of them. -- consider using [[consume soul] to destroy these spirits instantly. -- players more commonly use [[swap]. If two party members bring swap, the process is very quick and you can remove all the spirits to a safe spot where they can affect neither duncan nor you. -- using [[recall] also helps when swapping the spirits near duncan; this way you avoid being spiked by duncan's channeling magic. - another method to defeat duncan is to let a party member die near him and have a necromancer spam [[signet of sorrow] on him, but remember that the necromancer will take damage from duncan's defense. - many more pop up touchers are added in hard mode and can be deadly. |
Tearmaker
I H/H it a few nights ago.
All my heroes were Ray of Judgment smiters with one being Protection/Smite and one being Healing/Smite, brought Healing and Protection hench, Fire, and Mesmer.
I got the Swap skill and went R/A... Moved all the spirits out of the way and then when I went to kill Duncan... I was in the middle and I flagged the henchies behind me, two heroes back a little to the right and one back a little to the left. Need to spread them out our Duncan's Rift will destroy you.
I hit Duncan with Poison Arrow and Barbed Arrow (bleeding) and then I would micro the smiters to Ray him... he went down pretty fast.
All my heroes were Ray of Judgment smiters with one being Protection/Smite and one being Healing/Smite, brought Healing and Protection hench, Fire, and Mesmer.
I got the Swap skill and went R/A... Moved all the spirits out of the way and then when I went to kill Duncan... I was in the middle and I flagged the henchies behind me, two heroes back a little to the right and one back a little to the left. Need to spread them out our Duncan's Rift will destroy you.
I hit Duncan with Poison Arrow and Barbed Arrow (bleeding) and then I would micro the smiters to Ray him... he went down pretty fast.
Kerwyn Nasilan
The SoS/Swap method works best and has been mentioned earlier and is piss easy.
White_Chaos
Can anyone ls tell me how long does his part of the quest take? (dungeon + killing Duncan)
Raven Wing
In HM with good team and cons it takes around 30mins to clear the dungeon and 10-20 mins to deal with duncan and his spirits. I tried once with h/h in NM, it took almost 2 hours lol.
So a good team can likely do it all in 30mins.
My best advice is aggro carecully and always run a bit ahead and then back to awaken the popup spirits.
A mob of summit together with 6 toucher spirits can wipe most teams.
So a good team can likely do it all in 30mins.
My best advice is aggro carecully and always run a bit ahead and then back to awaken the popup spirits.
A mob of summit together with 6 toucher spirits can wipe most teams.
Covah
Took about 25 min total with 5 rojs 2 melee (me sin and a friend dev hammer) and a UA healer. Just ran up after killing the mobs and spammed RoJ on him. This was in HM as well.
Tearmaker
When I H/H it in NM it took about an hour, but that is mostly because using Swap takes time and it was the first time I had ever done it... I was a little unsure on how far to move the spirits so in some cases I probably over did it - lol.
T RAND
Went back and killed Duncan today. Swap was the only skill that I had to buy. Put spoil victor and signet of sorrow on Livia. Flagged Olias at Duncan. Had to res him twice because he would take a few steps away from Duncan after getting to the flag. Third time I kept reflagging him so he wouldn't step away from Duncan.
Raven Wing
Oh yes stupid heroes, just did it with 3 humans and 5 heroes. We sent 2 zheds up to die and they failed lol. Disobeyed the flag and died in a wrong place. Our human tank had to sac himself hehe
drunk n angry
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Originally Posted by Fragile Feeling
The problem with that is the henchies would automatically use their rez on the downed hero. Unless you flagged henchies far back, and used one hero to heal the one that was up beside him. It could work I suppose
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Raven Wing
Why rez a 6 months old thread?
But with sending in henches you have no guarantee that they drop dead in the right place.
But with sending in henches you have no guarantee that they drop dead in the right place.