uninscribable inherents

jaximus

jaximus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

wisc

so ive been around guild wars for a little over 2 and a half years. and ive gotten my share of neat weps and such. i had heard about weapons with 15%-1 health regen and 15%-1 energy regen. never once had i gotten one nor been with anyone who had. i thought maybe they had removed them from the game? just recently though, while in urgoz HM, i got a q13 zodiac hammer with a 15%-1 health regen mod. i figured it was rare-ish. then while 600/smite-ing naphui HM i got a q10 14%-1 energy regen celestial bow. anyone else notice these type of weapons dropping more or is this purely coincidence? or maybe factions only?

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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I received a +14%/-1 energy regen sword from a Locked Chest in Hard Mode (Watchtower Coast, precisely) about 3 weeks ago. They still drop, though to be fair, it's the first one I've seen since I started playing Guild Wars 3 years ago.

polishrocker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

I wish I could see such a thing. Been playing for over 3 years and never seen that... although I have seen a max q7 dual mod focus drop. My friend claims that he has received a 14% UNCONDITIONAL, like no mods whatsoever, celestial bow from the naphui quarter mission.

BTW, I am convinced that naphui has the most amazing drop rate of crazy stat weaps, as my q7 focus, and a q8 cele axe both came from that place from chest runs, within a few days of eachother.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

I have had lots of them pop up, especially running HM chests in the Jade sea area. Nothing extraordinary, have had them as recent as a month ago (and I haven't been chest running since).

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

I've had a couple (bow bows, 1 was a regular long bow from Prophecies, the only was a amber longbow from Factions)

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Yeh I got a q11 sephis axe with+15%-1 energy regen somewhere in kryta, think I merc'd it though as why the held would I use it >.>, if its energy I wanted to sac then I'd choose the -5e one...random inscriptions, are random.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

got +15/-1e and +15/-1health plagueborn maul and bow the same day last week

merch got both

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

Had a r9 15/-1e Chaos Axe which I sold for 30k. It was Tyrian ofcourse

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by polishrocker View Post
I wish I could see such a thing. Been playing for over 3 years and never seen that... although I have seen a max q7 dual mod focus drop. My friend claims that he has received a 14% UNCONDITIONAL, like no mods whatsoever, celestial bow from the naphui quarter mission.

BTW, I am convinced that naphui has the most amazing drop rate of crazy stat weaps, as my q7 focus, and a q8 cele axe both came from that place from chest runs, within a few days of eachother.
Like alot of players, your friend is completely full of shit. Unconditionals only dropped for the first few weeks after GW came out. The majority came from shiverpeaks and desert chest running.

aTT!kus

aTT!kus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

U.S.

[FluX]

W/

i've had a few hammers and swords with +15% -1energy or hp, all from tyria about 2.5 years ago. I havn't seen any since though

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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The inscription system in NF and EotN lacks several modifiers and combinations that are only available in Prophecies and Factions. The +15%, -1 energy/health regeneration damage modifiers are two examples of those.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I'd be happy if they brought the unconditional weapons back and got rid of the conditional ones.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

lol, i bought a 15 -1h q10 oni blade in a trade of unid's a little while back. 1st one i have ever had.

warrior running

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Cape Is A Lie[Trim]

W/E

I've never seen one how much would a mod like that cost

Amnel Ithtirsol

Amnel Ithtirsol

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

AU

League Of The Fallen

Mo/

Merched quite e few +15-1e (most from farming Farhuner) but never seen a +15-1hp mod.

pOmrAkkUn

pOmrAkkUn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Bangkok

Me/Mo

I got Sephis Axe (req.12) with +15%-1HP regen from farming during last Halloween event.
Sold here for 30-40k can't remember. Many buyers in buy forum want this mod IDK why?

I still have Wingblade req8 with +15%-1HP regen too.

brave bern

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

London

Fun With Blood (SuK)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk View Post
Like alot of players, your friend is completely full of shit.
My vote for quote of the month!

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

I got a q9 (or maybe q10?) Dead Bow farming Gates Of Kryta a loooooong time ago. If I remember correctly it was a Vampric Dead Bow of Fortitude, although I'm not too sure about the grip. If I also remember correctly, back in the pre-factions days if you had the 15%/-1 health with a vampric mod, it only counted one of the "-1 health" modifiers. Which basiclaly made it like an unconditional dmg mod with vampric. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I don't remember as good as I used to.....

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Afaik the unconditional weapons were ones that dropped with health degen and energy degen as the damage condition but also had zealous and vampiric mods.

I think if you got a weapon with 15%-1e and it had a zealous mod you would still only get -1e regen because of some bug, removing this zealous mod then gave you a weapon with unconditional damage.

I think the game was too new for people to appreciate the value of those weapons, i know all i cared about at that time was getting my hands on a fiery dragon sword.

Valkyria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Got a r12 Longbow with 15/-1 health regen about a month ago vanquishing Ascalon areas. Still have it.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pOmrAkkUn View Post
I got Sephis Axe (req.12) with +15%-1HP regen from farming during last Halloween event.
Sold here for 30-40k can't remember. Many buyers in buy forum want this mod IDK why?

I still have Wingblade req8 with +15%-1HP regen too.
It is -2hp with vampiric prefix, which allows one to degen to deah even with conset on (or twice as fast without conset). Usefull for various necrotic traversal tricks.

-2 degen also seems to attract aggro

(FYI: WTB one handed weapons with -1 hp regen inherent)

Leriel Frostbringer

Leriel Frostbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Poland > Sopot

BoS

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk View Post
Like alot of players, your friend is completely full of shit. Unconditionals only dropped for the first few weeks after GW came out. The majority came from shiverpeaks and desert chest running.
There was also something going on with watchtower coast chest(s), this area got lot of mentions with subject of unconditionals, back then.

I believe that after removing drop, existing unconditionals weren't changed and still exist? Or they got changed later when i wasn't paying attention?

Asimo

Asimo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Melbourne, Australia

Roam

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnel Ithtirsol View Post
Merched quite e few +15-1e (most from farming Farhuner) but never seen a +15-1hp mod.
I thought they don't come as inscriptions? Fahranur is in NF.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asimo View Post
I thought they don't come as inscriptions? Fahranur is in NF.
I think he is talking about the +15e -1 inscrip....which is wrong.

Raul the Rampant

Raul the Rampant

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Wisconsin

[LaiD]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leriel Frostbringer View Post
There was also something going on with watchtower coast chest(s), this area got lot of mentions with subject of unconditionals, back then.

I believe that after removing drop, existing unconditionals weren't changed and still exist? Or they got changed later when i wasn't paying attention?
These unconditionals were left as is, and some of them are still floating around out there if you know the right people. The point he was making, though, is that they stopped dropping long before Factions was released, meaning that the person mentioned in the post he was responding to could not possibly have gotten any such item as a drop in Nahpui Quarter as was claimed.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

They're quite rare, but not very valuable.

EDIT: To people who don't know what we're talking about, here's one.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ummm I'd be interested to know the "NAME" of the Inscription? They all have one, so, what is the name of these inscriptions?

snoozer80

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Poland

For Your Entertainment [FYE]

As the tittle of this thread says.. This kind of incription does not exist.

Willow O Whisper

Willow O Whisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by snoozer80 View Post
As the tittle of this thread says.. This kind of incription does not exist.
the picture above suggest otherwise i don't see any ps in it...........
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya View Post
Ummm I'd be interested to know the "NAME" of the Inscription? They all have one, so, what is the name of these inscriptions?
only items from nf and above where updated with inscriptions all items dropped before that have no pre fix.

faraaz

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

India

Hey Mallyx [icU]

A/

I got a q9 chaos axe with 15%/-1 health regen loooooooooooooooooong ago. I merched it cuz I didn't know any better.

Amnel Ithtirsol

Amnel Ithtirsol

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

AU

League Of The Fallen

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Covah View Post
I think he is talking about the +15e -1 inscrip....which is wrong.
Yea, sorry was referring to the inscriptions. Closest I've come to anything similar to these inherent mods.

Oh, and the +15 -1e inscriptions are "Live for Today" for martial weapons and "Seize the Day" for spellcasting weapons.

Could not find any info on wiki for the +15 -1hp mods though...

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

If I remember right I have a Max twin hammer Reg 8 with a +14% dmg on it at least 2.5 years old

I kept it because of the Req 8

Just a note I have not seen it for awhile packed away on a character somewhere, and I could be wrong If i am it's a +14% above 50%. I also remember reading that these where available during the initial release of the game and hence been removed.

Puddin Cheeks

Puddin Cheeks

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

On Welfare

Jelly of the Month [Club]

I got this out of a chest today while skill capping in the Shiverpeaks.

jaximus

jaximus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

wisc

heres pics of the two i have.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Talk about adding more strings to your bow:



I like the axe too. Shame about the skin.

Kotetsu Rain

Kotetsu Rain

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Utopia

D/

Don't know if this really fits in but I don't see why i have +5e on this wep either.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by snoozer80 View Post
As the tittle of this thread says.. This kind of incription does not exist.
the picture above suggest otherwise i don't see any ps in it...........
What snoozer means is that there is no inscription (weapon upgrade) with these kind of stats. They can only be found as inherent 'inscriptions' and cannot be salvaged.

faraaz

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

India

Hey Mallyx [icU]

A/

Just to let you know, I got a q12 Storm Bow with 15% / -1 energy regen last night from Underworld (in Pools if you must know).

Pistachio

Pistachio

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

I got a +15% damage/-10 armor while attacking sword in the Underworld a couple years ago. Ruined it when I tried to add another mod...

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistachio View Post
I got a +15% damage/-10 armor while attacking sword in the Underworld a couple years ago. Ruined it when I tried to add another mod...
That's a different mod and it has a corresponding inscription - "To the Pain" I believe.